Vanishing motoring YouTube channels

[cort16]

I have used a VPN to watch it before but you have to pay for a VPN service. If you go for a free VPN they're proxying all your web traffic so god only knows what they're doing with it that. If you're not paying for the product you are the product is that not what they say?

[dollywobbler]

Ray - rest assured we do get a cut of Premium income. I have it myself. £11.99 seems steep for a single but the £20 for the whole family suits us very well. The ability to download content to watch later is great too.

In terms of income, ad revenue and Premium must account for overall income so yeah, promoting ad blockers is a bit annoying.

[SiC]

If you're on Vodafone (probably other networks may have this too) then you can buy an "Entertainment Pack". One of the options is YouTube Premium. 

https://www.vodafone.co.uk/mobile/music-tv-and-sport

It was an £8 extra on my current Monthly plan. Much cheaper than what Google want directly for the same. 

I didn't want to get premium as all the adverts being added (especially on a TV/Mobile) makes it obvious what YouTube/Google want you to do. My natural inclination is to stick it to the machine/system/big corp. However that said, premium does make the experience a lot better. You can also choose higher bitrates which makes things look much better than a lot of the heavily compression artifacts they get by default. 

[loserone]

That sounds great but it seems to be £33 or £41 a month after 6 months for a middling plan, where an MVNO can do the same network for £10 with no contract and then pay full whack for YTP?

[SiC]

3 hours ago, loserone said:

That sounds great but it seems to be £33 or £41 a month after 6 months for a middling plan, where an MVNO can do the same network for £10 with no contract and then pay full whack for YTP?

Hence if you're already on Voda it might be of interest.

I pay £22pcm for my airtime on a 24m with it and then whatever my phone works out at 0% over 3yrs (which had the phone cheaper total than buying it outright in cash at the time). Most likely like many I imagine who go into a shop and get a new phone. 🤷‍♂️

[bezzabsa]

I use Smart tube on my streaming device (firestick) this cuts out ads and also the waffly 'look how good i am ' bits too, all user controlled so I can adjust it to view some ads if I so wish..

VGG was good , apart from the inane 43/55's and that kind of shite he used to spout, but now hes gone all TV and spoiled the show...Must admit I have found myself wondering how he managed to pull a wife like that tho!!!!! 

[cort16]

Bizarrely youtube premium has a significantly different price if you try to sign up on desktop or mobile. 

£16.99 mobile

£12.99 on desktop 

Even though you end  up with the same service.  I think it's to do with mobile maybe going through your phones subscription service rather than paying direct to youtube. 

[The Moog]

I tend to watch Finnegans Garage - has some great content very roadkill esq, Farmcraft101 - mucks about with massive machines, Tom Lamb - Furzes mate and always up to something, Bearded Mechanic -  has a great line in getting old bikes working, Tyrells classic workshop - Some amazing old stuff that money gets chucked at, Allen Millyard- rebuilding odd bikes, Stupid Bloke Stupid Video - bit mad doing changes to his citybug, Barum Engines - less so now that it is often warranty clickbait, DannyDC2 - quite like his garage sessions and RobotCantina - sticking leaf blower engines in cars. 

I pay for the premium to avoid the ads, and honestly it makes life so much better! 

[St.Jude]

19 hours ago, alcyonecorporation said:

A YouTuber had a go at me for mentioning it on Twitter, claiming I was taking the food out of their mouth. 
Well, apart from the bit where I don't watch their content, it remained a shite argument. I donate and buy merch where I can from channels I like, but said items are usually limited run - and I never have any fucking money spare. 

It's not your fault, or anyone else's, that the YouTuber's model is so heavily reliant on one form of revenue.

I've said it before, there are channels that just let YouTube/Google dictate what ads are placed where and how many. That's lazy, I'd argue greedy too, because it spoils and destroys the flow of the video. There are channels set up to take that (Plainly Difficult is one, even buts the old black/white bar at the top right hand corner to say an advert is coming up!) and I don't mind that. Because they've thought about the advert, the placement, and how it flows with the video.

[Noel Tidybeard]

wristwatch revival is one that hooked me

[UltraWomble]

Im a bit worried about Sugulemon hes lost a lot of weight

[SiC]

The issue is starting to be picked up by the media now 

Why are so many car YouTubers quitting?

https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/7/24214600/car-youtube-quit-donut-car-throttle-hoonigan

 

[dollywobbler]

HubNut has just hit £200,000 total channel income since I monetised 9 years ago. The channel has 59.5 million views, most of them during the monetised period. 

I guess that highlights one of the biggest issues with YouTube. The income is not vast unless you're pulling in millions of views per year. It works for us, as a two-person band living frugally but media corporations have vastly higher costs to cover.

Could probably make more money if I focussed on what people actually want to watch, but instead I've got a test coming on a Montego estate with a very brown interior...

[New POD]

29 minutes ago, dollywobbler said:

HubNut has just hit £200,000 total channel income since I monetised 9 years ago. The channel has 59.5 million views, most of them during the monetised period. 

I guess that highlights one of the biggest issues with YouTube. The income is not vast unless you're pulling in millions of views per year. It works for us, as a two-person band living frugally but media corporations have vastly higher costs to cover.

Could probably make more money if I focussed on what people actually want to watch, but instead I've got a test coming on a Montego estate with a very brown interior...

You aren't going to call it a full time job then? Because that's almost minimum wage on a 37 hour week. 

 

I haven't watched any of your content, on principle after you tried to sell me a hubnut sticker at Cholmondeley once. 

The principle being that if you want me to do your advertising, you need to pay me, rather than the other way around.  

 

 

[Mr_Bo11ox]

who knew that being offered a sticker could have repercussions lasting years and years

[dollywobbler]

4 minutes ago, New POD said:

You aren't going to call it a full time job then? Because that's almost minimum wage on a 37 hour week. 

 

I haven't watched any of your content, on principle after you tried to sell me a hubnut sticker at Cholmondeley once. 

The principle being that if you want me to do your advertising, you need to pay me, rather than the other way around.  

 

 

I do call it a full time job. For two of us.

We sell merchandise to support ourselves. If people don't want to buy it, then fine. Very unlikely I would have gone hard sell on you because I'm shit at that. While I see your point, merchandise exists primarily for revenue, not advertising. Most folk don't know what HubNut is.

[lesapandre]

2 hours ago, SiC said:

The issue is starting to be picked up by the media now 

Why are so many car YouTubers quitting?

https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/7/24214600/car-youtube-quit-donut-car-throttle-hoonigan

 

I think like any new technology it becomes a bit of a 'thing' for people to enjoy and then they move on to other things. The tech moves so fast. 

And once there are 1000's of samey videos - what next? There is only so much you can say on any subject - that's why conspiracy theory videos are so popular - they can just make up random new facts to grab views.

Quality content is difficult to produce as well - so getting it viable time and money wise is this delicate balancing act.

Some of the best content on YouTube is the publishing of old videos and film that would not see the light of day otherwise or official technical stuff like the Post Office Inquiry which is absolutely fascinating/concerning. I'd recommend it to anybody.

[IronStar]

17 minutes ago, lesapandre said:

I think like any new technology it becomes a bit of a 'thing' for people to enjoy and then they move on to other things. The tech moves so fast. 

And once there are 1000's of samey videos - what next? There is only so much you can say on any subject - that's why conspiracy theory videos are so popular - they can just make up random new facts to grab views.

Quality content is difficult to produce as well - so getting it viable time and money wise is a delicate balancing act.

Some of the best content on YouTube is the publishing of old videos and film that would not see the light of day otherwise or official technical stuff like the Post Office Inquiry which is absolutely fascinating/concerning. I'd recommend it to anybody.

Nothing to do with this I’m afraid.

This is typical Venture Capital / Private Equity rider scenario. Buy, milk it for every last cent with minimal investment, cut budgets, ignore the people that made it into what it is, then fire or drive them out, do a round of layoffs, milk the husk until it collapses. Oh, and saddle it with as much debt as possible so you can pay it out to yourself and use that money for a leveraged buyout of another company. If it somehow survives despite the best effort to kill it, say it’s because of your amazing management skills and that $company is now leaner and more profitable than punt it of onto a next VC/PE for the process to repeat itself. If it doesn’t, dump the corpse next to the dumpster or pawn it off to a company that specializes is sucking every last remaining bit out of the leftover assets and never talk about it again. Then move onto the next company, as you made your money, and you weren’t there for the long game anyway, just as long as it takes to make it, fuck the long term and all the employees. 

[sheffcortinacentre]

Hmm sounds familiar think they call it HMG.

[warren t claim]

17 hours ago, dollywobbler said:

HubNut has just hit £200,000 total channel income since I monetised 9 years ago. The channel has 59.5 million views, most of them during the monetised period. 

I guess that highlights one of the biggest issues with YouTube. The income is not vast unless you're pulling in millions of views per year. It works for us, as a two-person band living frugally but media corporations have vastly higher costs to cover.

Could probably make more money if I focussed on what people actually want to watch, but instead I've got a test coming on a Montego estate with a very brown interior...

This does give the impression that HUBNUT is either a labour of love or you're hoping to make it work over a very long term.

£200,000 will be your gross income before expenses. I've watched plenty of your vids and many of them involve you traveling a fair few miles and having to pay for overnight accommodation which will have to be paid for out of your bottom line. What surprises me is that nobody has come forward offering to sponsor Hubnut? I know pausing a video halfway so you can tell your viewers about Nord VPN or to use your promo code to get 50,000 free tokens on Raid Shadow Legends may seem like selling out but if others do it then fill your boots. 

[Pieman]

I've just found out that Autoshine Cars shut up shop a few months ago - Scottish guy based in Blackpool who did oddly satisfying vids of deep-cleaning extremely dirty cars.  I believe the business closed though, nothing to do with YouTube.

[New POD]

19 hours ago, IronStar said:

Nothing to do with this I’m afraid.

This is typical Venture Capital / Private Equity rider scenario. Buy, milk it for every last cent with minimal investment, cut budgets, ignore the people that made it into what it is, then fire or drive them out, do a round of layoffs, milk the husk until it collapses. Oh, and saddle it with as much debt as possible so you can pay it out to yourself and use that money for a leveraged buyout of another company. If it somehow survives despite the best effort to kill it, say it’s because of your amazing management skills and that $company is now leaner and more profitable than punt it of onto a next VC/PE for the process to repeat itself. If it doesn’t, dump the corpse next to the dumpster or pawn it off to a company that specializes is sucking every last remaining bit out of the leftover assets and never talk about it again. Then move onto the next company, as you made your money, and you weren’t there for the long game anyway, just as long as it takes to make it, fuck the long term and all the employees. 

You are clearly describing the RAC 

[Split_Pin]

5 hours ago, Pieman said:

I've just found out that Autoshine Cars shut up shop a few months ago - Scottish guy based in Blackpool who did oddly satisfying vids of deep-cleaning extremely dirty cars.  I believe the business closed though, nothing to do with YouTube.

I wondered what happened to him. Latterly he seemed to move a little bit into the salvage side of things as that's popular, or was. His detailing videos were great and I liked how they had some mad dance music over the top rather than dialogue - very relaxing to watch.

[artdjones]

On 29/07/2024 at 19:55, Noel Tidybeard said:

wristwatch revival is one that hooked me

Nekkid Watchmaker is very good. 

[artdjones]

My own personal opinion is that YT is kept afloat by Febreze. Lately if I watch 20 minutes of videos I've watched 4 or 5 20-30 second unskippable Febreze ads. Sometimes they put them in front of a video that's only 1½ minutes long itself.

I already hated the stinking stuff anyway.

[dollywobbler]

6 hours ago, warren t claim said:

This does give the impression that HUBNUT is either a labour of love or you're hoping to make it work over a very long term.

£200,000 will be your gross income before expenses. I've watched plenty of your vids and many of them involve you traveling a fair few miles and having to pay for overnight accommodation which will have to be paid for out of your bottom line. What surprises me is that nobody has come forward offering to sponsor Hubnut? I know pausing a video halfway so you can tell your viewers about Nord VPN or to use your promo code to get 50,000 free tokens on Raid Shadow Legends may seem like selling out but if others do it then fill your boots. 

I pay the penalty for the freedom of doing absolutely what I want to do. We're ok and enjoy not having to sell out. I wouldn't mind if it was just "check this company out" but the sponsors demand full influencer spec of telling your followers X is truly superb and made a difference to your life even when it's a vile protein shake or some such. 

[EyesWeldedShut]

3 minutes ago, artdjones said:

My own personal opinion is that YT is kept afloat by Febreze. Lately if I watch 20 minutes of videos I've watched 4 or 5 20-30 second unskippable Febreze ads. Sometimes they put them in front of a video that's only 1½ minutes long itself.

I already hated the stinking stuff anyway.

Try using an incognito browser on a 4G modem that suggests your geographic location is anywhere from Southall to Cardiff - we get some weird and wonderful ads on ours. Some of the shorter vids are almost unwatchable these days.

If I actually fuckup and logon then all I get is TenorMan and funeral plan adverts - says it all really.

I think a lot of the YouTubers (not just motoring) have moved on over to other platforms as their income drops or their passion is waning so they cut back on the time they are willing to put in - there's still some decent content but, maybe, we've watching it at a rate faster than it is being produced nowadays?

[Split_Pin]

1 hour ago, EyesWeldedShut said:

passion is waning

I agree with this. I am subscribed to about 20 different channels but this year I have found that they are releasing fewer and fewer videos. For example Geoff Marshall's great London railways channel has been quieter since he had a bit of a rough time last year or the year before and went across America. 

There's only so many 'will it starts' or 'I bought a cheap...' that we can watch. I stopped my own You Tubings as I needed to buy better camera equipment but I'm just not prepared to make that investment when I can spend it on the cars themselves.

Even Hydraulic press is samey now, it's really a one trick pony. I'm therefore surprised that he's just built a massive fortified press.

High Peak Autos is still enjoyable although I didn't watch the episode with Mike Brewer as I've had enough of Corsa Bs 😂

[St.Jude]

On 08/08/2024 at 08:33, New POD said:

The principle being that if you want me to do your advertising, you need to pay me, rather than the other way around.  

Whats your rate?

[Agila]

22 minutes ago, St.Jude said:

Whats your rate?

Probably one of these would swing it.