collection mission to SPAIN!!!! COMPLETED IT M8

[Mr_Bo11ox]

He's a star that guy isnt he. I just watched him drive 800km home in a BMW 750iL that had been left parked with its windows open for 10 years. 

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On 20/05/2024 at 20:53, Dave_Q said:

Not the exact same area but similar part of the world, we went on holiday to Portugal, the Algarve.

The jeep tour bloke told us they normally get a total of 2 weeks rain a year there. I imagine parts of Spain are very similar.

I'm sure if I went there, knowing my luck, we would get those two weeks! I can just imagine it. "Welcome English men. You have brought your weather with you. Thank you, you have broken the six-month drought!" 😁

[Mr_Bo11ox]

The Simca is now parked up in the hedge. My temporary insurance has run out and I can't buy a new insurance till i've got a UK registration. Sent off all my forms to DVLA ('signed for') 3 weeks ago, no news yet though, cheque has not even been banked. Any idea how long I can expect this to take? I should have anticipated that any interaction with an arm of the UK's public infrastructure would take months and almost certainly turn into a big palaver.

[tooSavvy]

@Mr_Bo11ox... Looks like mine will be 'on the road [shelf]' before yours..lol 😉

Keep attem

🚙💨

[danthecapriman]

58 minutes ago, Mr_Bo11ox said:

The Simca is now parked up in the hedge. My temporary insurance has run out and I can't buy a new insurance till i've got a UK registration. Sent off all my forms to DVLA ('signed for') 3 weeks ago, no news yet though, cheque has not even been banked. Any idea how long I can expect this to take? I should have anticipated that any interaction with an arm of the UK's public infrastructure would take months and almost certainly turn into a big palaver.

Odd! 
When I did the Mercury I had a registration number within days of it arriving in the country. I remember it being quick because I insured it on the VIN then had to phone them up again a few days later to give them the new reg number.

Although that was a good decade plus back so maybe things have got more bureaucratic and shitter since then (almost certainly!).

Has it definitely been signed for? Might be worth calling them?

[Dave_Q]

55 minutes ago, Mr_Bo11ox said:

The Simca is now parked up in the hedge. My temporary insurance has run out and I can't buy a new insurance till i've got a UK registration. Sent off all my forms to DVLA ('signed for') 3 weeks ago, no news yet though, cheque has not even been banked. Any idea how long I can expect this to take? I should have anticipated that any interaction with an arm of the UK's public infrastructure would take months and almost certainly turn into a big palaver.

I just checked back on my thread, for my Vespa I posted it all off about 1/8/21 and V5 was issued on 13/9/21. 

This was during the DVLA COVID megafuckery when everything was running slow. 

According to their website now everything is running as normal, they quote 4-6 weeks so hopefully you will be closer to 4 than 6.

[captain_70s]

2 hours ago, Mr_Bo11ox said:

The Simca is now parked up in the hedge. My temporary insurance has run out and I can't buy a new insurance till i've got a UK registration. Sent off all my forms to DVLA ('signed for') 3 weeks ago, no news yet though, cheque has not even been banked. Any idea how long I can expect this to take? I should have anticipated that any interaction with an arm of the UK's public infrastructure would take months and almost certainly turn into a big palaver.

"We've lost all your documents and this is your fault."

[Mr_Bo11ox]

55 minutes ago, captain_70s said:

"We've lost all your documents and this is your fault."

exactly, that how it normally works

[Talbot]

Once this is UK registered, is there a longer-term plan for it? (or even a medium-term plan?)

I would love to have a drive of it at some point.  Would be very interesting to compare it to the later Talbots, of which I had a few*

*too many

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I think the only plan is try to smarten up the body a little but and fanny about in it over the summer, then probably try and rehome it before winter sets in as I havent got any good dry storage for it

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Well would you believe it!!! Look what arrived in today's post!!!!

[LightBulbFun]

14 minutes ago, Mr_Bo11ox said:

Well would you believe it!!! Look what arrived in today's post!!!!

interesting! I wonder how its ended up registered as a Talbot? the DVLA does have a fair number of Simca 1100 model's already coded into their computer system

yet its registered as Talbot with no Model code, (you bet your tappity arse I have already had a perv at its DVLA record ) also interesting to see that its got that age related number specifically, since according to information I have YBA-S was already completed to YBA996S, but thats clearly not the case  

[Mr_Bo11ox]

On its French doc, it was down as a Talbot 1100LX

[LightBulbFun]

4 minutes ago, Mr_Bo11ox said:

On its French doc, it was down as a Talbot 1100LX

interesting! is that what you put down on the V55 form as well, or did the DVLA overrule what you put down on the V55 in favour of what was on the French Logbook? sorry for asking but the DVLA nerd side of me has to ask, so I can figure out just exactly what takes president over what etc  (there is no model code for Talbot 1100LX so that in itself explains why it was registered without any model code.)

 

so what sort of plates are you going to get made up for it is the next actually important* question  personally Tippers is my go to choice, but even there do you go for tippers plastic digit, tippers pressed style, with or without a boarder?! 

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Yeah I defo put Talbot as the manufacturer on the V55. I think I put Simca 1100LX as the model. Or might have been just Talbot 1100LX.

For the reg plates I found a guy on Facebook doing pressed ally plates with the older wider font for £40 a pair delivered so I'm gonna get a pair of them. 

 

[loserone]

Ah, soon you too can have random strangers approach to tell you THOSE NUMBER PLATES ARE ILLEGAL YOU KNOW

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Oh aye!!! I don't think they are though are they? I shall enjoy putting them right!!!

[Andyrew]

2 minutes ago, Mr_Bo11ox said:

Oh aye!!! I don't think they are though are they? I shall enjoy putting them right!!!

I would say they are, as they dont meet new regs for producing a plate. 

They do look good tho

 

[LightBulbFun]

9 minutes ago, Mr_Bo11ox said:

Yeah I defo put Talbot as the manufacturer on the V55. I think I put Simca 1100LX as the model. Or might have been just Talbot 1100LX.

that be why then, so forgive me for not knowing my french cars but is it actually a Talbot then rather then a Simca, has my entire life been a lie?! is this like the whole Morris Marina vs Austin Marina depending on what market its in thing?

if it is actually badged as a Simca/says Simca on the Chassis plate etc, and not a Talbot, it might be worth your while getting it properly registered as such, since the DVLA do have proper codes for Simca 1100 LX, it will make life easier if you have to look it up online etc, for example there was a Peugeot 104 for sale on these beige pages,  I was able to stuff into compare-the-market no problems and get a quote on, since that despite being a recent import, it had been properly registered with the correct codes  

[LightBulbFun]

3 minutes ago, Andyrew said:

I would say they are, as they dont meet new regs for producing a plate. 

They do look good tho

i'd need to look into the exact details, but as the Simca (Talbot?) is a historic vehicle from before 1981, the rules on number plates for it are a lot more relaxed compared to more modern shite, its how Tippers is able to make all the old style plates they make for example  

I know that legally @Mr_Bo11ox could even put on a set of Ghastly silver-on-black plates and they would technically be legal, even if completely wrong for the period! (but I do wonder if the plates still have to be BS145 marked etc?)

[loserone]

4 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

BS145 marked

This, I think.  I think you'd need a policeman to do you on construction and use regs though?

[captain_70s]

It used to be that all new numberplates fitted to a car must adhere to the current plate standards, whether it a new BMW or a 1913 Stutz. So all repo plates were technically NOT ALLOWED.

Now it seems to be that pre 1980 stuff registered as historic is allowed to display black and white plates, but it doesn't seem to specify if that only applies to pre-existing number plates or of you can have new ones made up to that spec.

As per the DVLA have made the situation as clear as mud. Not that anybody actually gives a shit, the police don't even bother with deliberately mis-spaced or obscured plates, let along 50 year old cars with maybe the wrong font and not specifying the BS no. 

The main risk is to the supplier, getting caught supplying plates for road use without meeting the required regs. Which is probably why so many repo plates are made by guys on Facebook rather than through registered businesses.

[danthecapriman]

1 minute ago, captain_70s said:

It used to be that all new numberplates fitted to a car must adhere to the current plate standards, whether it a new BMW or a 1913 Stutz. So all repo plates were technically NOT ALLOWED.

Now it seems to be that pre 1980 stuff registered as historic is allowed to display black and white plates, but it doesn't seem to specify if that only applies to pre-existing number plates or of you can have new ones made up to that spec.

As per the DVLA have made the situation as clear as mud. Not that anybody actually gives a shit, the police don't even bother with deliberately mis-spaced or obscured plates, let along 50 year old cars with maybe the wrong font. 

That was pretty much my understanding of it all.

Theres probably all kinds of pointless and pathetic red tape and rules nobody asked for or cares about concerning number plates but it’d take an exceptionally cuntish copper to see an old fashioned style plate and do something about it. Tbh, most of the reproduction ones look good enough to pass muster anyway when it’s driving around.

Id imagine unless it’s glaringly obviously not right (like USA plates!) nobody would give a shit. I’ve certainly never heard or seen anyone get in the shit for it either.

Im sure lots of those number plate manufacturers were doing them sold as ‘show plates’ so you didn’t need any BS nonsense on them or the cars log book to get them made up.

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1 hour ago, Mr_Bo11ox said:

Well would you believe it!!! Look what arrived in today's post!!!!

YBA = Young British Artists. 

I found fancy plates to be pretty good.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

As far as these plates go, I suspect making/selling/buying them probably is a bit illegal, but I struggle to see the illegality in using them

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6 minutes ago, Mr_Bo11ox said:

As far as these plates go, I suspect making/selling/buying them probably is a bit illegal, but I struggle to see the illegality in using them

I mean if they are ANPR compliant and can be read easily, it's surely less of an issue than naughty spacing and added 'commas' and shite like that.

I reckon if someone gets pulled over for erratic driving, it might be then a copper says 'oh and the plates are hooky',  but I'd be amazed to see someone get done just for the BS missing.

[jim89]

15 minutes ago, Mr_Bo11ox said:

As far as these plates go, I suspect making/selling/buying them probably is a bit illegal, but I struggle to see the illegality in using them

It's not like there's no bigger fish to chase...

[Ian_Fearn]

1 hour ago, LightBulbFun said:

interesting! I wonder how its ended up registered as a Talbot? the DVLA does have a fair number of Simca 1100 model's already coded into their computer system

yet its registered as Talbot with no Model code, (you bet your tappity arse I have already had a perv at its DVLA record ) also interesting to see that its got that age related number specifically, since according to information I have YBA-S was already completed to YBA996S, but thats clearly not the case  

Hey LightBulbFun…. What’s the deal with imports having no model designation listed on the V5 in recent years?

When I registered my Defender (ex mod) it just came back as ‘Land Rover Unknown’ despite my official paperwork showing it as a Land Rover Defender 130. This was back in ~2017 and still seems to be the case with the DVLA

[Split_Pin]

They are all classified as 'show plates' by sellers on Ebay and 'not* for road use'.

I had a pre-2001 style set made for my old 2000 Audi 80 Cab (RIP Fancy plates.co.uk)  and had not one jot of bother in the 3 years I owned it.

[Cheezey]

On 20/05/2024 at 15:57, colino said:

I find it extraordinary that this thing exists at all.  Shows the difference between a kind climate and Scotland.  As a precocious, wannabe car dealer aged 16, my second car was one of these.  It was an N reg (1975) and it failed its mot in 1979 due to corrosion and also had a rattly engine.  A bargain to me at £25.  That's right, a throwaway at 4 years old.  Fortunately new piston rings and shells, araldited on sills and a colour change thanks to Parsons repaint made it fit for its new buyer.

Where in Scotland was this? Before my time, my  grandfather sold these new. I think the last Simca my Dad had he punted through the auction as it was rattling.