The grumpy thread

[ashmicro]

Drugs are for mugs, end of. I may have posted about this before, but it bears repetition: The former Mrs. Ash was, throughout our years together, fond of a bit of weed now and again. I wasn't happy about it, but at least it wouldn't kill her.

 

After her father died there was a LOT of land to be sold, almost £4m worth. When the money came through (her share was over £900k) Mrs Ash went a bit apeshit, and started to take coke, E's and the like. We split up over it, she promised to quit, and we got back together.

 

She was in fact still using, but was keeping it a secret from me. One May evening (I was at work) she drank about a pint of vodka, took probably 2 E's and a load of coke. Her sister found her, and sent for an ambulance crew, who took her to hospital. The sister phoned me, and I drove like a maniac to the hospital. By the time I got there Trish was dead.

 

Just say no, kids. And everyone for that matter.

[Minimad5]

Shit ash..

 

Don't have to tell me twice

[Station]

 

Most of my drug taking friends have changed a lot since they started the obligatory snowballing from pot to speed to to cocaine, etc. It seriously does bring on shadowy mental problems, most don't want to admit it, I've had nearly ten friends end up in mental wards because of the safe, friendly drug: marijuana. I'm not preaching, some people like nothing more than smoking it and I'm addicted to nicotine, but it pains a bit when people go on about legalising it. "It'll be safer!"

[retrogeezer]

Jeez Ash, thats bad.....what an awful thing to go through.

 

I'm probably a very unusual case in that I have never taken any drugs at all. (other than prescription)

 

I tried smoking at 14/15 and hated it so I guess that stopped me trying weed.

And by the time I was 18 (1988) I had borrowed £4k off my mum & dad to buy my dads car (86 Escort 1.3 Popular!) so never had the cash for pill popping.

 

It's funny coz I saw a chap buy fags today in the shop and just happened to notice that a pack of 20 Marlboro Lights was £6.37!!! How do people afford it these days? A 20 a day habit is costing pretty much £200 a month!

[Mr Lobster]

Bloody hell, thats awful.

 

Drugs aside, I did think as I was sat there what an enormous cost alcohol (ab)use has to society. From what I could overhear, a fairly large proportion of the people in A&E had ended up there after drinking one way or another.

[dollywobbler]

Bloody hell, thats awful.

 

Drugs aside, I did think as I was sat there what an enormous cost alcohol (ab)use has to society. From what I could overhear, a fairly large proportion of the people in A&E had ended up there after drinking one way or another.

Weekends at A&E must be horrific for the staff. Such a huge proportion of people are there because they've drunk too much - or done something stupid because they were drunk. I personally feel that these people should have to pay for their treatment. The NHS is there to help genuinely ill people - not twats who think drinking lots is really clever.

 

Drugs is a tricky one. I'm not entirely anti it but certainly, people claim it's fine when it isn't. But then drinking isn't necessarily fine either. But do we all want to be entirely sober? I don't mind it - I'm clean/sober and don't touch anything now - but you can't really rule it out for all.

[seth]

Ashmicro, just dreadful.

 

 

I'm probably a very unusual case in that I have never taken any drugs at all. (other than prescription)

You've done more than me. I manged to survive my teens without even trying a cigarette. Never saw the point in it at all.

[Station]

My mate tried drinking once and didn't like it, he hasn't done anything in his life. Seems strange that that seems surprising.

[Rocket88]

As a smoking tee totaler, it hacks me off that people who smoke are regarded as scum, whereas it's still perfectly acceptable to drink yourself into a state of complete oblivion.

Booze / drugs seriously affect the user's ability to rationalise in a way that fag's don't, and are therefore far more dangerous. When did you last hear of someone beating up and old lady after one too many Marlboro Lights?

[shite_meister]

Took a day off work today, drive to my favourite eatery to get me a slap-up full-English...twats were closed. Go somewhere else and get a brekkie-job done.

Take missus car to tyre place and wait TWO FUCKING HOURS to have two rear tyres replaced on her Pug 106 (Note to grease-monkey, praps it would be quicker if you removed the wheels WITHOUT EATING A FUCKING PIE AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME EH?) fuck me I could have made myself two tyres and fitted them quicker than it took him, then the human sloth tells me its all done "You've forgotten to check the exhaust like I asked you to haven't you?" came my curt response. Aforementioned grease-'tard puts pug on ramp and shows me that the rear silencer is rotten by the silencer "But it was fitted here less than a year ago" says I "Its nothing to do with the fitting" replies the man without a brain "Obviously" sez I.

Anyway the spanner-weilding youg cuntstrill then explains to me that it can't be welded....then another bloke starts welding it up.

 

On driving home and feeling slightly relieved I pull into the drive and go to turn around then...SNAP, clutch cable gone, no biggie thinks I, As I open the bonnet to look at the cable on the gearbox end my back gives out an almighty crack and now I can't stand straight.

 

Great day off

[retrogeezer]

My mate tried drinking once and didn't like it, he hasn't done anything in his life. Seems strange that that seems surprising.

I don't drink either......people look at you as if you are strange when you tell them.

[Rocket88]

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Take missus car to tyre place and wait TWO FUCKING HOURS to have two rear tyres replaced on her Pug 106

 

Taf or Roberts?

[chaseracer]

My mate tried drinking once and didn't like it, he hasn't done anything in his life. Seems strange that that seems surprising.

I don't drink either......people look at you as if you are strange when you tell them.

Same here. My kidneys/liver will no longer process the stuff after (non-alcohol-related!) internal medical malarkey over the last few years.

 

Last time I went out with mates I was 'the bank' - about £120 at one point - because I was the only one sober enough to look after it!

[dollywobbler]

I kind of get used to being considered strange by people. The following causes consternation pretty much everywhere I go.

 

I drive a 2CV. A lot.

I don't drink. Out of choice.

I don't want children.

 

Peculiar really that each of the above really does mark you out as a nutter to quite a lot of people.

[shite_meister]

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Take missus car to tyre place and wait TWO FUCKING HOURS to have two rear tyres replaced on her Pug 106

 

Taf or Roberts?

TAF, to be fair they're both fucking shit.

[Father Ted]

Sadly owing to the lack of free speech with my employer I can not say what I truly feel about drugs and alcohol for fear of them reading it and sacking my skinny white arse.

 

No I dont do them, I dont like them, I dont really drink ( a bottle of Kingfisher or Cobra every white dog turd if I happen to be having a BBQ) mainly because the couple of times I have tried anything (weed) I have been balls out blue meanies paranoid and believe me hiding in a compost heap to avoid the police (who were not really there) was not a nice way to spend an evening.

[Pillock]

Tried alcohol. Liked it. Still drink, occasionally to excess.

Tried weed twice, it made me just want to sleep. Seemed quite an expensive way to sleep so didn't bother again.

Never tried cigarettes. Absolutely detest the smell so couldn't see the point. Even more so now when I could either buy 20 fags, or feed myself all day (and probably longer), for about £6.50

[155V6]

Stuart Cable has been found dead at his home in South Wales. Gutted!

Very sad ,I remember the Stereophonics having a fair amount of shite in their videos too.

[brammy777]

I also got offered to smoke some weed around the same time and it gave me my first panic attack, I absolutely hate drugs.

Blimey, so Im not the only one that weed has done that to. At the time I just considered it a side effect, so I was lucky they didnt persist. I avoid drugs completely, quite a few people I know/used to know are addicted to various things.

[Marshall]

Stuart Cable has been found dead at his home in South Wales. Gutted!

Very sad ,I remember the Stereophonics having a fair amount of shite in their videos too.

Yeah it is sad. Always seemed a likeable enough bloke to me and from an era when IMHO Stereophonics actually were a decent band too.

 

Also I cant smoke weed either due to panic attack issues. After I had smoked a couple over a few weeks it took me at least a year to stop havin attacks as well - best avoided i reckon.

[dollywobbler]

Lots of bad experiences with minor drug use here, but I know plenty of people who've done drugs, sometimes harder drugs, with little or no effects. To liken it to alcohol again - there will always be some who don't like it at all. I'm one of those. That's why I don't drink.

 

Then there are people who lose control. They all end up in A&E on a Friday night and with alcohol and drugs, there will be those who become addicted and whose lives are destroyed by it.

 

Not saying drugs are risk free but in the same way that licking a wine gum won't lead you to a life of alcohol dependency, smoking a few spliffs is unlikely to turn you into a raving lunatic.

[Station]

"Got dis car in 2 break for parts."

 

 

 

This started appearing about 6 years ago on the 'modding scene'.

As far as I can see, two really nice looking cars cannibalised for chavs by chavs to 'upgrade' theirs. Fair enough if they're written off, but buying them with tax and MOT and then chopping them up. Call me a sentimental old fool, but this pisses me off.

[Cavcraft]

I think one of the stigmas of being anti-drugs is that you're sometimes seen as some sort of smug bastard.

 

I have had the rare (and I do mean rare) smoke of weed and some fucker spiked my drink with something once, I think it was whizz. To be fair I didn't have bad time when spiked but I would never, ever take anything like that knowingly.

I have very good reason for disliking drugs, and I can't see anything ever changing that, but I do like a good piss up on a Saturday night and I do smoke fags.

[Minimad5]

Guess i shall join in ....

 

Drugs - Never taken any, had Paracetamol once and went blind (All i could see is White) ... no really it was only Paracetamol.

Afew hours later ended up being sick, and i could see fine again, so that's put me off drugs for life !

 

Drinking - Don't casually drink, but on special or odd occasions i do, even then it is "limited" . I would rather spend my money on drum stuff or cars.

 

That is all

[outlaw118]

I'll chuck my two-penneth in here, I agree with the perceived holier than thou/ smugness argument, but frankly I'm not bothered what people think.

 

I'm fortunate enough to have tried most things, and had no lasting ill effects - that I'm aware of.

 

When I were a young'un, started working in the city, living at ma + pa's running a Citroen GS, life was good. Couple of drinks lunchtime, then a swift one on the way home in The Raven at Fenchurch Street.

Last Friday of the month, when all the traders at the Stock Exchange got paid, that was party time, so a bit of bolivian marching powder was taken, often didn't catch a train until 6am!

As time wore on I drank more, snorted more, smoked more.

Coke was the first thing to go, knocked that on the head pretty easily. Booze was a different matter.

I was 20 years and 2 months old when I collapsed after pissing blood at work.

They diagnosed a seriously swollen liver and the onset of cirrosis, amongst other things, so I went on the wagon.

For about a month.

Gradually slipped back into my old ways, routine was what they now term as binge drinking - 2-3 drinks (double Jack D + coke) a day, Friday night maybe 20 pints and a few chasers, Saturday the same, Sunday lunchtime 10 JD's and then home 4ish, sleep until Monday am.

Was convinced to stop by a girl who I was keen on, saying, if you carry on drinking you can't have me. That was Decmber 1991, and I don't think I've had more that 2 drinks in one sitting since. (oh yeah, just once....)

 

After all that ramble, I reckon it's all to do with the type of person you are, your outlook on life etc etc. Some people can drink, take drugs until they're 95 years old and then get hit by a bus, Other people have a sniff of the barmaids apron and they're an alcoholic.

It just needs someone to give that person a kick up the arse and say "you've had enough" to make some people realise....

[dollywobbler]

After all that ramble, I reckon it's all to do with the type of person you are, your outlook on life etc etc.

Well, indeed. We're all different. I don't think I'm really the 'addict' kind, having cleaned up and quit smoking with absolutely no struggle at all (the latter makes me horribly smug to smokers! Sorry). But then maybe if I'd ended up dabbling in really hard drugs, I'd currently be lying in a stripped out bedroom with my arm all wrapped up, ribs you can play like a xylophone and no future at all. Or dead.

[warren t claim]

I think my experiences of drugs has been listed here before along with an incident I talked about at minimads Rebel rousing last weekend...

 

Lets just say I will never watch the film Escape To Victory again!

[mk1_4dr]

Fuck it, here's my opinion.

 

Moderation is the key.

 

I drink, but its by no means an excessive amount, infact its chuff all compared to some (as my friends like to point out).

I smoke, and not just a little bit. But I find I can take it or leave it, its more a bordom thing than actually needing a fag... I never have the 'craving' for nicotine.

I also smoke pot, I regard it as my one real vice. I feel considerably better after a couple of spliffs than I would do after a pint or three. I never feel the need to get loud, abrasive or out of order after a toke, its just not how it works.

And Im not sure where the opinion that smoking pot leads to harder drugs comes from, I've been smoking green for 10years and Ive yet to see anyone go down that path.

What gets people on harder drugs, and keeps them there, is will power or lack thereof.

 

It has to be said though, peer pressure is a motherfucker.

[Marshall]

I would agree that use of any drugs, alcohol etc. and their effects probably depends on you personal 'makeup' as a person. Friends and family often say that I have a very fine eye for detail. I feel this often makes me look into things in alot of detail. Maybe this is why I became paranoid on weed and started having panic attacks - too much over analysing. I agree though that others can have no problems at all. Everytime I was on fag break at a call centre job a few years back another bloke was always having a spliff! Didnt bother me except for the fact that I wondered how he had the gall to do and get away with it AND become a union rep at the same time. We are talking call centres here though I suppose!

 

EDIT: He was a sound bloke though and I consider him a good if infrequent aquaintance.

[Albert Ross]

I started drinking at about 12 years old, sneaking a bottle of Yugoslavian Riesling out of the kitchen at thome. Parents both too pissed to notice. I was buying beer in my local at 15. Parents too pissed to notice. I ended up homeless and skint in 1985 in Nottingham, I smoked fags for about 6 weeks, till I realised what I could have had with the money. Eventually moved into a shop doorway near Slab Square. Proper posh and that. Almost opposite the bogs... swanky eh! Then got a cheap piss stinking bedsit, well, more of a squat. Bummed around the East of England, Cornwall, and Glasgow for a few years. Then found a woman who told me to sort my life out. I did. Now married to that fantastic woman with 4 stepkids and 4 Grandkids. Eldest Daughter a teacher, Youngest Daughter a Hairdresser, Eldest Son a plasterer, Youngest Son a Full time Soldier. I have no money, but consider myself a rich man. She even likes some of my shite.

I shudder to think what would have happened if I had hit the powder in big style like most of the dropouts I lived amongst. I have buried 11 of them in the last 9 years.... most due to drug use/abuse or complications from previous use of. Drugs? NO thanks mate, I've got a life.

I like a wee dram though.