The grumpy thread

[The Moog]

 

 

There are none on sale at the moment with those options and none with such high mileage. As I can't find any similar cars for sale, how do I argue up the price?

 

Pic for those who didn't see it before!

That looks in amazingly good nick. How much do you want? If it is a few hundred quid you can often just haggle them.

 

You don't need to find exactly the same, but similar. So hunt for ones that are well looked after, or similar spec without options and add some on for those.

 

That sort of mileage will always have an impact as most people would rate it s worthless.

[Timewaster]

Is the C4 still showing in CAP guides?

 

Could a friendly dealer give you a pre smash value, perhaps if you hint that's they might get a sale when your cheque arrives?

 

As for the sales knob? Probably just a distraction technique to stop you walking, and perhaps embarrass you into making a decision on the spot.

Are you incapable of making this decision?! Can you even dress yourself?

Be a MAN! Sign the form - pussy!

 

I bet it works sometimes.

[doobietoo]

As it is the other drivers insurance you can insist they return your car to its pre accident state........ that is your leverage... send them a quote for repairing the damage with new parts and watch their offer increase....Only your own insurance company can write a car off......

[Alexg]

Some of you may have seen my post last Friday showing my C4 VTS with a huge dent in the side after a Polo slid into it on ice in the work car park. Today I got the news from the (other party's) insurance company that it's beyond economical repair & will be written off. They've offered me £1000 and I have to pay £137 if I want to keep it, leaving me just £863 to get it fixed. I'd already had a quote of between £1000 & £1500 to fix it locally.

I told them it's worth more than £1000 and they told me I'm welcome to do some research. The trouble is it has 178000 miles on the clock, but just had another cambelt & water pump all new suspension and is generally in good order.It also has a panoramic sunroof & full leather. There are none on sale at the moment with those options and none with such high mileage. As I can't find any similar cars for sale, how do I argue up the price?

 

 

Give me the reg and I'll CAP it now

[FakeConcern]

As it is the other drivers insurance you can insist they return your car to its pre accident state........ that is your leverage... send them a quote for repairing the damage with new parts and watch their offer increase....Only your own insurance company can write a car off......

I believe that used to be true but following some county court ruling it no longer applies, shame! (unless anyone can give the definitive answer)

[FakeConcern]

Give me the reg and I'll CAP it now

KP55AZB

[Alexg]

 "how long did it take me to put your socks on this morning?"

 

FFS. I hear this sort of shite about other dealers all the time from customers. I'm not a great salesperson, but I often win the business by not being a complete twonk.

[cobblers]

Be a MAN! Sign the form - pussy!

 

 

Oh yeah, I said I was gonna go home to look it all over and stuff, see what options I want and all that and he was like "Oh yeah, check with the boss?"

Thing is he was 100% a decent enough bloke and definitely not the usual type to try and treat you like a twat.

 

I went to another place (Derbyshire Specialist Cars) and the bloke running the place was sound, but all the stock looked like it had just been pulled out of a supermarket carpark, scrapes, scratches, cars filthy inside and out - I'm hardly gonna pump ten grand into a car that looks like it's not been washed for 6 months. Madness.

[doobietoo]

I believe that used to be true but following some county court ruling it no longer applies, shame! (unless anyone can give the definitive answer)

Don't let them try to push it into your hands its their job to provide a suitable alternative or repair yours...... its not up to you to prove its value or find another one.... threaten them with insurance ombudsman if they do not up their offer or provide a replacement...

[Alexg]

I've just realised my CAP doesn't list retail... however Autotrader used car valuator is worth a look-  http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-valuation It uses CAP Average as a guide and lists appropriate retail prices if you select you're looking to buy rather than sell.

 

Their figures:

 

Dealer guide price

£1,120 - £1,230

Price for: 20 February 2016

Based on good condition.

 

 

 

[FakeConcern]

 

I've just realised my CAP doesn't list retail... however Autotrader used car valuator is worth a look-  http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-valuation It uses CAP Average as a guide and lists appropriate retail prices if you select you're looking to buy rather than sell.

 

Their figures:

 

 

 

Now that's interesting!

[EssDeeWon]

Took the Rover out for its weekly run this morning, coming home I was going round a roundabout , there is some woman in a white 4x4, no idea what it was but some modern POS, anyway she looks and appears to see me coming round the roundabout towards her then just pulls out.

 

WTAF? A big yellow Rover in clear conditions. Get ya eyes tested love or get off the road. It makes me wanna buy some old Volvo thats worth fook all and just ram the fuckers.

 

Yesterday morning walking to the station I saw a woman driving a big VW Minibus thing through a built up area in morning rush hour and texting on her phone. Probably the sort of bird who jumps up and down protesting about speed limits when sadly now and then a kid gets run over locally. Fuckin fuckwits.

[Alan_Green]

Yes, autotrader website has a few hidden features. For unlimited free and instant CAT C/D checks generate a "for sale" ad. Fill out the first few details. Click "next"....and the ad preview shows with/without CAT C/D. Save page as a favourite and then next visit just punch in reg number no, not the other fields.

[M'coli]

Ok, take the valueation of a 178000 mile car, then just add the price of each component re-build to the price given - that's how much you should be paid...

[cort16]

This could be the worst hangover I've ever had

[mrbenn]

This could be the worst hangover I've ever had

What have you bought?

[Angrydicky]

Took the Rover out for its weekly run this morning, coming home I was going round a roundabout , there is some woman in a white 4x4, no idea what it was but some modern POS, anyway she looks and appears to see me coming round the roundabout towards her then just pulls out.

 

WTAF? A big yellow Rover in clear conditions. Get ya eyes tested love or get off the road. It makes me wanna buy some old Volvo thats worth fook all and just ram the fuckers.

 

Yesterday morning walking to the station I saw a woman driving a big VW Minibus thing through a built up area in morning rush hour and texting on her phone. Probably the sort of bird who jumps up and down protesting about speed limits when sadly now and then a kid gets run over locally. Fuckin fuckwits.

I'm not sure what it is, but I've seen loads of drivers in Southend on the phone over the last week. Been tailgated more times than I care to remember as well.

 

Must be something to do with the school holidays, all the parents are more stressed which is reflected in their driving.

[EssDeeWon]

I'm not sure what it is, but I've seen loads of drivers in Southend on the phone over the last week. Been tailgated more times than I care to remember as well.

 

Must be something to do with the school holidays, all the parents are more stressed which is reflected in their driving.

 

You're not wrong there Dicky, I cannot seem to pop out for more than 15 minutes without witnessing or being on the end of some shit driving. The mobile phone behind the wheel is very common, I see it all the time.

 

I don't know why I get tailgated so often because I don't tend to hang around in the Rover but people always want to read the phone number on my rear number plate. Thats when I decide to slow down     

[LC Torana]

Never ever try and jumpstart, charge or even touch a Renualt Modus!

 

It's a family members that I refuse to do any work whatsever on, but today the battery was flat (Because Renault). So time to open the bonnet, not that hard.

Charger conneted and chargeing!

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I feel sorry for any breakdown company or garage who have to touch these...

 

 

Don't nuns and kittehs die if you charge a car battery while it's still hooked up to the car?

[HH-R]

People are just thick as pig shit. I had an Inshitnia right up my arse when a NSL road that dropped to a 40 on Friday, they got to about half a car's length away so I put the hazards on and held my hands up. They dropped back for about 5 seconds then got up my arse again, this repeated for about 2 miles in various speed limits. I didn't pull over because that type of person usually nearly rear ends you when you pull over then kick off that they've had to wait three seconds for the traffic to clear on the other side to get past.

[Landy Mann]

Don't nuns and kittehs die if you charge a car battery while it's still hooked up to the car?

I've heard they do but I've never caused any damage, I've done it on the following:

-BMW e30

- '97 Renault Megane

'96 rover 214

'93 defender

52 golf 1.9pd

'96 rav 4

 

So probably not I just don't turn on these ignition when doing so

 

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[EssDeeWon]

Really? Nobody wants the more economical, faster, cheaper to insure and tax free version when there is a slower, less efficient model available?

 

 

Send in a mate next week to look round one of their Twin Air models and see how great they become.

 

I really cannot bear car salesman when they come out with blatant crap like this.

[Angrydicky]

My aunt travelled down from Herts to Southend to look at a BINI in a dealership. There must have been 30 cars in there but she wanted this one that was a particular colour and spec. When we got there, firstly it had been sold and they hadn't told her before she made the journey. When she said she was leaving, the salesman desperately showed her three other BINIs, all of which were either older, higher mileage or up to £1500 more expensive. She mentioned she'd had one before and didn't like the firm ride. The salesman said "Can you remember what year it was?" and when she replied it was a 55 reg, he replied "first generation MINI, awful to drive they are". I burst out laughing at this point as he would have never said tha at if he'd had a showroom full of the things (about 1/4 of his stock actually).

[Parky]

Too true EssDeeWan. Liked how the APR was 7.9% when I can get a loan at 3.3% from a bloody supermarket.

 

"Oh but they are headline rates, you probably won't get them. Believe me I have been doing the finance for three years and no-one has ever got those rates"

 

Oh really says I? Well I have been in banking and finance for 20 years, much of which with retail banks and people get those rates ALL THE TIME. Because the FCA would take your licence if you advertised falsely. So how about you have another look at that APR sunshine?

 

Two minutes later - "Would you be happier with 2.3% sir?" Yes me old mucker, bit more like it......

 

I know people haggle a grand off the price, think they are Mike Brewer and then get shafted on the finance to the tune of £1500 in additional interest charges. That's the expensive bit...

[Parky]

My aunt travelled down from Herts to Southend to look at a BINI in a dealership. There must have been 30 cars in there but she wanted this one that was a particular colour and spec. When we got there, firstly it had been sold and they hadn't told her before she made the journey. When she said she was leaving, the salesman desperately showed her three other BINIs, all of which were either older, higher mileage or up to £1500 more expensive. She mentioned she'd had one before and didn't like the firm ride. The salesman said "Can you remember what year it was?" and when she replied it was a 55 reg, he replied "first generation MINI, awful to drive they are". I burst out laughing at this point as he would have never said tha at if he'd had a showroom full of the things (about 1/4 of his stock actually).

And when I got mine from the Leigh Motor Company (shysters) the first generation was by far the best. Anyone would think salespeople lie to secure the commission? Surely not....

[Angrydicky]

This was at Orange Motor Company in Hadleigh. I'm not saying all sales folk are like that, but some really will say any old bullshit to get a sale.

[HH-R]

I hope you said " 'old aaaaaaht yer aaaaaaahnd, I've bought meself a... Fiat 500."

[Cavcraft]

. Salesman seemed to be a genuinely decent bloke but he just started to get more and more desperate to the point where he actually asked me "how long did it take me to put your socks on this morning?"

What a flipping bizarre question. At this point I was getting a bit fed up of his slavor so I did one.

 

I still think I'll get one though.

 

 

I expect some shiny suited gobshite has dreamt that up at a sales meeting as some sort of 'reverse psychology' idea, whereby you take his statement to be a challenge to your decision making and sign on the spot. I don't know how many people that sort of thing would work on, but I don't think the showroom would have appreciated my language had it been me.

[Parky]

I hope you said " 'old aaaaaaht yer aaaaaaahnd, I've bought meself a... Fiat 500."

Omg I wished I had thought of that. Mrs P was embarrassed by me disagreeing with "that nice salesman" and as she hates Mike Brewer that would have been the icing on the cake!

 

I know about nice salespeople, I am one. Except my industry is so tightly regulated I get fired and face prison if I tell fibs

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Must admit, I don't get it either. What point was he trying to make?