The grumpy thread

[Tamworthbay]

I think all the starship enterprise/zombie survival etc jokey manuals probably outsell the car ones.

Yup but to be fair most manuals for moderns would just have one page that says ‘plug in computer at main dealer’. I can’t see anyone swapping out the engine on a Mitsubishi PHEV on their drive with a Haynes manual and a Draper socket set.

[scaryoldcortina]

Honestly though, even Haynes manuals of yore only had a couple of useful bits, the torque settings and contact breaker gaps mostly. Did anyone actually try to follow the dismantling instructions?

[Tamworthbay]

Honestly though, even Haynes manuals of yore only had a couple of useful bits, the torque settings and contact breaker gaps mostly. Did anyone actually try to follow the dismantling instructions?

They saved me a load of times when I was a teenager with capris, minis and escorts. A lot of stuff is straightforward but things like timing up a cambelt for the first time was made a lot easier by the manuals. I still try to get them for cars I have as I am sad and like to look through the pics.

[Pillock]

I don't think I've ever got all the way through a Haynes step by step disassembly before realising that their car was different to mine and I just started winging it.

[scaryoldcortina]

There is a reason for that too.

 

 

Here's the very first Haynes manual, Mr H stripped and rebuilt a midget and wrote about it incorporating pictures and diagrams from the BMC and Autocar. This was presumably quite hard going because his next few books were for everything else ever fitted with an a series and mostly a cut and paste from the MG book.

[twosmoke300]

I’m sure one of the early bx hbol shows the battery tray being unbolted to aid gearbox removal . Never seen a bx one that wasn’t welded on so I guess they had a pre production model for the manual . Helpful

[anonymous user]

Today's grump is people who lack spatial awareness who then drive large cars. I was stuck in a queue of traffic today because someone was too scared to drive through a gap that you could get a bus through (I know this because the bus was a couple of vehicles in front and went through fine). I later experienced the person who thought their car, or mine, was narrower than it is as they passed me on the M4 and clipped my door mirror.

[HMC]

Yeah Haynes is seemingly majoring in being a brand angled to people with a passing awareness of its bread and butter, with products aimed at semi jokey gifts for men. I think the internet is a factor as I haven’t got a Haynes for the avensis, and if I have a fault I will google it and doubtless have someone breathing heavily on you tube showing me how to fix it.

[HMC]

The stereo wasn’t working on the avensis, or rather there was no speaker output. Now I doubt there’s very much in a HBOL to help anyway. So there I go on google with the model number. Could be this, could be that. Being a lazy I just thumped it and it now works. This should be not be on the grump thread, just included as it happened today and no Haynes was thumbed, but google was.

[Sigmund Fraud]

Another reason for the ever-decreasing popularity of Haynes manuals is that most manufacturers' workshop manuals are so widely available nowadays !

 

[SiC]

I think all the starship enterprise/zombie survival etc jokey manuals probably outsell the car ones.

Certainly there was as much shelf space dedicated to the jokey ones as the proper ones in the Haynes museum shop.

 

The old Haynes are pretty good I reckon. I like to read through to get a rough good idea on what a job entails.

 

Just I find the modern stuff always seems pretty generic instructions. Often even with pictures of the job of a completely different car marque.

[dozeydustman]

Certainly there was as much shelf space dedicated to the jokey ones as the proper ones in the Haynes museum shop.

 

The old Haynes are pretty good I reckon. I like to read through to get a rough good idea on what a job entails.

 

Just I find the modern stuff always seems pretty generic instructions. Often even with pictures of the job of a completely different car marque.

 

I got to agree with you there. I still have my Samba, Horizon and 205 manuals somewhere, they have full wiring diagrams, plenty of clear & well labelled pictures/diagrams and the text goes into much better detail. There were good cutaway diagrams of the engines showing oilways and coolant passages.

 

The ones I have for the Saab and the Corolla have very little detail for certain things, bits of garbled text where a picture would really be useful, and 'typical' schematics which may or may not incorporate optional extras.

 

"Refitting is reverse of removal" seems to have been there from year dot though.

[wuvvum]

I have occasionally found HBOLs to be useful when working on older tat to show how things should go.  Case in point, when I was doing the rear brake shoes on the 205, the old ones were being awkward to get out and when they did finally come away the springs all went flying everywhere.  It was a lot easier to look at the diagram in the HBOL to see what went where than to sit there trying to work it out for myself.

[Frogchod]

Just been on Rockauto.com for Buick bits.

Discs, pads, callipers, drums, shoes, ball joints, track rods, belts, filters, cat, exhaust and other bits

came to the bargain price of 381 euro.

 

Cheapest shipping option is 377 euro

[Wack]

"PCSO unable to chase."

 

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/police-statement-arrested-ferensway-attack-2781533

That's bollocks, talk about taking the piss

[Wack]

Why do people in cars equipped with cruise control not use it on relatively quiet motorways instead of constantly drifting between 65 and 80 ?!

 

Had some right helmets yesterday, people that will crawl past, pull in front and immediately slow down again

We went up to Northumberland in the mustang at Easter, coming back on the A1 I came up behind a focus doing 60 , I'm on cruise at 70 so I overtake only numbnuts must've felt I was squeezing his balls because he's still there at 70 when I should've been well past him so I drop a gear and add 20mph

Next thing he's back to 60 and a dot in the distance , twat

[Wack]

A BMW driving through a 20 zone.... Uprooted a tree at 7am and both driver and passenger died.

 

It's horrible that they've died and this makes me sound like an utter cunt, but I can see the headlines now.

"They wouldn't hurt a soul, he was a good lad. Etc"

 

The car has split into 2 ffs. It's a 20 zone because it's a school zone and there's joggers etc around there.

 

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/two-men-die-cavendish-road-2784513

I've seen some hard crashes into trees over the years , 99% of them just chip a bit of bark off , what was he doing 120 in a 20.

[Wack]

I had a wasp fly into my shirt once whilst riding my Honda CB125T in my shirt sleeves. It stung me. That was 20 years ago, I've never ridden a bike in shirt sleeves since.

When I was 16 on my fs1e a mate had a wasp in his new fangled full face helmet , he was more interested in the wasp than looking where he was going as he mounted the kerb

 

When the kids were little we had wasps build a nest in tree roots outside the back door

 

I watched where they went in and bought some wasps nest destroyer , went out at dusk when they were all inside and the clever little fuckers had covered the entrance with leaves, so I got a stick to move them

 

Cleverer than I thought, they had a back door , my wife still laughs when she remembers me running about being dive bombed

[chaseracer]

Cheapest shipping option is 377 euro

 

I think Harenett trading as Shite Couriers is heading stateside again soon...

[Frogchod]

I think Harenett trading as Shite Couriers is heading stateside again soon...

He's already offered

But my order wouldn't class as hand luggage as it's approximately 1/2 a Buick

 

Just checked on Rockauto again and shipping has magically gone up to 399 :(

[Stanky]

He's already offered

But my order wouldn't class as hand luggage as it's approximately 1/2 a Buick

 

Just checked on Rockauto again and shipping has magically gone up to 399 :(

 

Keep checking every hour and it'll keep going up 'til it rolls over to zero again like a Quentin Wilson* odometer?

[paulplom]

My mate got stung about 100 times when he threw a hoover at a wasps nest. We were about 8 at the time I'll never forget it. Evil bastards. He ended up in hospital.

[loserone]

Not sure that reaction to having a vacuum cleaner thrown through your home constitutes evil.

 

I hate the bastards, at least near home or work, but I can't call them evil until they're hungry in the autumn.

[Snipes]

My mate got stung about 100 times when he threw a hoover at a wasps nest. We were about 8 at the time I'll never forget it. Evil bastards. He ended up in hospital.

Liked for the story, not the hospitalisation.

[adw1977]

No Autoshite for over 24 hours!

[strangeangel]

That's bollocks, talk about taking the piss

 

Why haven't they rolled out the Met's tactic of ramming the little fuckers yet?

[barefoot]

All mobile phones are shit.

 

Anyone else noticed that although phones are getting more and more clever and do more & more stuff, but as phones, they are shit.

Garbled voices that sound like they're speaking through a phlanger, and that's before they drop out & miss a            unk of conversati

[chaseracer]

Anyone else noticed that although phones are getting more and more clever and do more & more stuff, but as phones, they are shit.

Garbled voices that sound like they're speaking through a phlanger, and that's before they drop out & miss a            unk of conversati

 

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[wuvvum]

Giving the Toyota a once-over in preparation for its MOT on Saturday, and I put a screwdriver through the back end of the driver's side sill.  Pissed off would be an understatement. ?

[wuvvum]

Also, the new forum isn't beige enough, and there are too many emojis to choose from. [/luddite]