The grumpy thread

[Cavcraft]

Nobody knew and it was never intended for that imho.

[dollywobbler]

Sort of proves that those who demand the right to free speech are entirely unable to deal with such a responsibility.

[sierraman]

Going to IKEA in Sheffield today.

Fucking fun times.

 

 

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Hopefully you’ll make it out alive. The food hall reminds me of school dinners, if you don’t like processed meat you’ll go hungry.

[chaseracer]

With the right to free speech comes the responsibility to use it wisely.

[Cavcraft]

Never mind all that, a shiter is going to IKEA. There's someone who really needs our thoughts and prayers.

[bub2006]

Never mind all that, a shiter is going to IKEA. There's someone who really needs our thoughts and prayers.

are they all the same were they have the lines in the floor you are meant to follow? I once got lost in Eastwood IKEA.

[bub2006]

As for the bitching and fighting,I've no problem with anyone and I prefer an easy life. If I've an issue with anyone I will take it up with that person alone. Best way to be isn't it? Or should be.

[Bazfr69]

Sort of proves that those who demand the right to free speech are entirely unable to deal with such a responsibility.

That’s a sweeping generalisation considering there’s plenty of reasonable chat going on there too.

 

Even a Brexit thread without uproar.

 

I’d prefer not to be classified in such a way.

[barefoot]

I bought a HubNut sticker on Sunday, despite reading about all the dreadful things that Ian's alleged to have done.

[wuvvum]

Never mind all that, a shiter is going to IKEA. There's someone who really needs our thoughts and prayers.

 

I do like a nice Poäng chair to be fair.

[chaseracer]

I do like a nice Poäng chair to be fair.

 

I'm sitting in one right now.

[Cavcraft]

But did you have to spend 18 hours walking 27 miles to get the screws to put it together?

[Bazfr69]

I do like a nice Poäng chair to be fair.

As does Steve.

[Magnificent Rustbucket]

Sort of proves that those who demand the right to free speech are entirely unable to deal with such a responsibility.

 

I don't enjoy joining these types of discussions but this comment is so extreme I couldn't let it pass unchallenged. It is quite extraordinarily authoritarian and controlling. To anyone who places value in liberty, free thought and free expression it is difficult to hear. The culture of the UK, as in all countries is cyclical. Sadly we are entering a phase of increasing puritanism, only this time not rooted in religion, but manifested in a concerted attempt to heal the world of its 'ugly thoughts'. In the process, everything the self-appointed moral arbiter decrees as offensive is extinguished. I am deeply unhappy about this in life and on Autoshite: I can see it leads nowhere good. 

 

FWIW, I don't hold you responsible for the manifestation of this new authoritarianism and controlling behaviour in Autoshite's moderation. I can see you agree with it, but I don't believe you are the prime mover behind it. I look elsewhere for that.

 

No doubt I will be flamed for this comment and I am fully expecting to be laughed at by people who have not understood me. But I feel it has to be said.

[Magnificent Rustbucket]

With the right to free speech comes the responsibility to use it wisely.

 

 

The same is true for those in positions of authority, but magnified by an order of magnitude.

[chaseracer]

I agree, in part.  This issue is with definitions.

[Junkman]

No.

Statistically they have exactly the same probability of winning next time as they did just before the draw.

Or yes ?

Or are we thinking that if they already had 5 balls out of 6, as the 6th ball was about to be chosen they had a one in 55 chance of winning the jackpot. And now they have a 1 in a trillion chance.

 

Just to be a pedant, you are talking about probability, not chance. Even if the probability is 1 in a trillion, you have a 50/50 chance.

[Junkman]

The culture of the UK...

Since when does the UK have a culture?

[chadders]

I agree, in part.  This issue is with definitions.

Can you please clarify what you mean by this?

[New POD]

I still feel bad for getting involved with that place in its beginning, I thought it was just going to be this place with more swearing, rather than the place to call Cavcraft Ian and bollox a cunt.

I've met billy and he's not the sort of person you'd call a cunt and live to tell the tale.

[myglaren]

Never mind all that, a shiter is going to IKEA. There's someone who really needs our thoughts and prayers.

I like Ikea.

But not having to drive there.

[busmansholiday]

Never mind all that, a shiter is going to IKEA. There's someone who really needs our thoughts and prayers.

Make that two. Mrs BMH is priming me for a trip there as well. Not sure whether it'll be the Sheff one or Morley. The latter has the option of continuing to Bradford for a curry, Sheffield one just means coming home depressed.

[barefoot]

Just to be a pedant, 

 

I think you mean pendant.

[HillmanImp]

If I go to Ikea I go in the evening as its normally pretty quiet. Nice jaunt round, some meatballs half way and a hotdog on the way out.

 

Whats not to like?

[chaseracer]

Can you please clarify what you mean by this?

 

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/wisely

[JeeExEll]

I don't enjoy joining these types of discussions but this comment is so extreme I couldn't let it pass unchallenged. It is quite extraordinarily authoritarian and controlling. To anyone who places value in liberty, free thought and free expression it is difficult to hear. The culture of the UK, as in all countries is cyclical. Sadly we are entering a phase of increasing puritanism, only this time not rooted in religion, but manifested in a concerted attempt to heal the world of its 'ugly thoughts'. In the process, everything the self-appointed moral arbiter decrees as offensive is extinguished. I am deeply unhappy about this in life and on Autoshite: I can see it leads nowhere good.

 

FWIW, I don't hold you responsible for the manifestation of this new authoritarianism and controlling behaviour in Autoshite's moderation. I can see you agree with it, but I don't believe you are the prime mover behind it. I look elsewhere for that.

 

No doubt I will be flamed for this comment and I am fully expecting to be laughed at by people who have not understood me. But I feel it has to be said.

No flames I can see. Nope.

Have a biscuit.

[sierraman]

Their metal shelves are really handy for the garage. You wouldn’t put a fucking gearbox on one but for tins of paint etc they’re great for ten quid. Got my eye on one of their unfinished pine cupboards as well. Unusually for domestic furniture they look up to getting knocked about in the garage.

[chadders]

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/wisely

I know what wisely is.

 

I was maybe not as clear as I needed to be.

I wanted to know what you meant by 'the issue is with definitions'

[SierraMikeHotel]

 

 

I don't enjoy joining these types of discussions but this comment is so extreme I couldn't let it pass unchallenged. It is quite extraordinarily authoritarian and controlling.

 

...

 

No doubt I will be flamed for this comment and I am fully expecting to be laughed at by people who have not understood me. But I feel it has to be said.

Not intended as a flame, and it's possible I've misunderstood you, but I think you are incorrect.

 

We have never had freedom of speech in the UK. You have never been allowed to defame others. Public Order offences have existed for a very long time.

 

More recently, laws around certain protected characteristics have come in, and been strengthened over time, because we have finally realised that those people need extra protection from the law because they are more vulnerable. You are not allowed to say something racist, or derogatory to disabled people, not because of "thought police" but because those words cause serious harm.

 

I wholeheartedly agree with DW and Chaseracer, free speech does carry an enormous responsibility.

[Lacquer Peel]

Even in the country where a lot of the "free speech" panic comes from their version of "free speech" only serves to protect the powerful.

The same happens here to an extent.