eBay tat volume 3.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Just think, if you won a pile of money on the lottery, you could buy up loads of old cars, pay a few quid to 'lock in' their number plates, then release them into the wild again safe from the clutches of unimaginative plate-raping wankers. Then die happy that you left the world a better place than you found it. WIN.

[willswitchengage]

10 hours ago, vulgalour said:

Gorgeous.

Rear indicators not the most elegant solution, sadly.

Still would.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Rare-1982-Mercury-Zephyr-Z-7-3-3-sport-Ford-Fairmont-41-786-miles/254586157156

Question for the American car fans. For one to pass an MOT in Europe/UK they require retrofitted amber indicators? A lot of US cars use flashing rear brake lights as opposed to an independent indicator lamp like we have.

[eddyramrod]

On 5/5/2020 at 4:01 AM, vulgalour said:

Couple of Crestas from the same seller.  Big projects both.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vauxhall-cresta-pa-3-window-rare-project-very-solid/223993285169

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-cresta-pa-1-owner-documented-valuable-reg/223976597366

The Holy Grail!  A late 2.6 Hydramatic in maroon and grey!  If only it didn't need so much work.  If only I had somewhere for it to live.  If only I had some money.  If... if... if...

It's gorgeous.

That beige Dodge is too, but hopelessly outclassed by the PA, as is everything else we've ever seen on this thread.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

19 minutes ago, skoda_fan said:

It certainly is. And that's a great idea. I wonder how many owners would actually do that though if there's money to be made, whereas DVLA would probably charge a fee for such a service.  I've heard the argument that selling a plate can raise funds towards restoring a car. Doesn't really make sense that the original reg that's somehow remained with a car like that all this time is transferable, whereas if a modern is reallocated its original plate after a private plate removal, that original and probably quite ordinary plate does become non-transferable.

You’re going to hate that my first thought with something like that is; “ mmm if I can get £600 for the plate that means I’d only end up paying X for the car”

No one that saw that car in the future would care, about 98% wouldn’t even know that the Scottish plate it ends up reregistered on wasn’t there from new, I’d take great delight in making up some old bollocks about it belonging to some little old lady in The Hebrides for any anorak that questioned me.

it might mean the difference between an old heap getting back on the road or not.

[somewhatfoolish]

3 hours ago, scdan4 said:

Another day another angular old honda. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283868062262

Amazing dash...

but it don’t get too excited, it’s a bit frilly... 

 

 

Squint and the door handles could be from the BL parts bin. It was clearly a marriage made in beige.

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, NorfolkNWeigh said:

No one that saw that car in the future would care, about 98% wouldn’t even know that the Scottish plate it ends up reregistered on wasn’t there from new, I’d take great delight in making up some old bollocks about it belonging to some little old lady in The Hebrides for any anorak that questioned me.

not sure how it is for other enthusiasts, perhaps its my Routemaster upbringing combined with rigorous DVLA research etc

but age related plates (especially ageless plates so pre 1963) stick out like a sore thumb and it always makes me sad when I see one on a historic vehicle 

especially so when it happens to a fleet vehicle where the number plate has greater significance to the vehicle then it would in a private Motorcar

and the robbing of number plates, can royally mess up someones research into a vehicle or vehicle type etc (this one I know from personal experience!)

 

and in the end it just seems like a massive shame, when a car has had its same number plate for say 50 years it seems a shame to part the 2 just for the sake of a quick buck...

 

and that story would not work, all age related plates are from registration series that were never issued, if the car was actually from such a remote location it would probably still have an AB1234 style number plate  a number of locations never actually ran out of their original 1903 style numbers until forced onto suffix plates in 1965!

this is coincidentally where some AAxxxx age related plates for pre 1930 vehicles come from today for those wondering

[wuvvum]

37 minutes ago, willswitchengage said:

Question for the American car fans. For one to pass an MOT in Europe/UK they require retrofitted amber indicators? A lot of US cars use flashing rear brake lights as opposed to an independent indicator lamp like we have.

Yes, although there are more elegant solutions than that.  With mahoosive taillights like those, I'm sure you could repurpose the outer section as indicator only (using amber bulbs) and have the centre section as tail / brake lights.  Then repurpose the offside reversing light as a rear fog (red LED bulbs are your friend here).

[Tadhg Tiogar]

34 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

....I'm sure you could repurpose the outer section as indicator only (using amber bulbs) ...

I'm not sure that amber would be filtered accurately by a red lens. If the section could be replaced by a reproduction clear or amber lens (3D printing might be an answer), then that makes more sense.

[wuvvum]

I reckon a decent LED bulb would have enough "amberness" to beat the red of the lens.  Certainly putting a red LED bulb behind an amber lens results in red light with barely a hint of amber discernible.

[Dick Cheeseburger]

1 hour ago, LightBulbFun said:

not sure how it is for other enthusiasts, perhaps its my Routemaster upbringing combined with rigorous DVLA research etc

but age related plates (especially ageless plates so pre 1963) stick out like a sore thumb and it always makes me sad when I see one on a historic vehicle 

especially so when it happens to a fleet vehicle where the number plate has greater significance to the vehicle then it would in a private Motorcar

and the robbing of number plates, can royally mess up someones research into a vehicle or vehicle type etc (this one I know from personal experience!)

 

and in the end it just seems like a massive shame, when a car has had its same number plate for say 50 years it seems a shame to part the 2 just for the sake of a quick buck...

 

and that story would not work, all age related plates are from registration series that were never issued, if it was from such a remote location it would probably still have an AB1234 style number plate  a number of locations never actually ran out of their original 1903 style numbers until forced onto suffix plates in 1965!

this is coincidentally where some AAxxxx age related plates for pre 1930 vehicles come from today for those wondering

I like the idea mentioned earlier on whereby a pre 63 plate has to stay with a vehicle. It's part of its story after all. 

[LightBulbFun]

Just now, Dick Longbridge said:

I like the idea mentioned earlier on whereby a pre 63 plate has to stay with a vehicle. It's part of its story after all. 

indeed i agree 100% with that! (and with what @The Mighty Quinn etc said)

as mentioned it would be very good to have some sort of "registration number is non transferable on historic grounds" or something such  

(I like the idea about it being something you can apply for and I would not just limit it to just pre 63, although thats where a lot of it happens, but It would be good to have the option to apply for later vehicles, as I have seen a few vehicles suffix vehicles etc get robbed of their plates as well sadly)

 

as a side note, this is still on its orignal plate VOX 510 looks like as I thought the seller was not able to rob it of its number plate  

 

On 3/30/2020 at 5:03 PM, Cavcraft said:

Can you even plate rape an electric milk float?

 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1958-electric-Morris-co-op-milk-float/254555465521?hash=item3b44b02731:g:cWQAAOSwETtegfLB

On 3/30/2020 at 7:03 PM, LightBulbFun said:

thankfully I dont think you can

so hopefully he falls flat on his face when he tries to steal its number plate! 

(can you tell I dont like it when a historic vehicle gets robbed of its number plate? LOL especially when it happens to a fleet vehicle where the number plate holds a greater amount of significance to the vehicle, then it would on a private car and also because when a vehicle loses its original plate it can mess up someones research into that vehicle, especially since the DVLA don't make it easy to find out if a vehicle has had a plate change or not, case in point a lot of people thought VES108S was a private car until I found out it was actually robbed of its original plate XEV88S and turned out to be a ministry car)

and as an edit side note heres a picture of VOX510 from back in the day  

(the registration VOX510 rings a bell I wonder if iv seen it somewhere else before?)

 

[eddyramrod]

23 hours ago, wuvvum said:

Yes, although there are more elegant solutions than that.  With mahoosive taillights like those, I'm sure you could repurpose the outer section as indicator only (using amber bulbs) and have the centre section as tail / brake lights.  Then repurpose the offside reversing light as a rear fog (red LED bulbs are your friend here).

I think there may be some kind of age exemption at work too.  When I got Huggy, four years ago next week, I was told that the reversing lights had been repurposed as indicators, with amber bulbs; but the mod had now been undone so he was back to the original layout wherein the one taillight does everything.  That certainly seems to be the case, film exists of him shot from a following car.  However the reversing lights were not reinstated when that was done so I have to rely on people noticing a hulking big car reversing at them......

[wuvvum]

Cheapish W123 limo with dreadful AMG wheels

[Skizzer]

The number plate obsession is a peculiarly  British thing. People in other places think it’s very weird, and in many countries the number isn’t tied to the car at all.

Each to his/her own; personally I can’t get myself very worked up about it either way.

[wuvvum]

5 minutes ago, eddyramrod said:

I think there may be some kind of age exemption at work too.  When I got Huggy, four years ago next week, I was told that the reversing lights had been repurposed as indicators, with amber bulbs; but the mod had now been undone so he was back to the original layout wherein the one taillight does everything.  That certainly seems to be the case, film exists of him shot from a following car.  However the reversing lights were not reinstated when that was done so I have to rely on people noticing a hulking big car reversing at them......

There is an age beyond which you can get away with red indicators at the back (and white at the front) - I forget what age exactly, but I had a feeling it was older than Huggy.

[wuvvum]

1 minute ago, Skizzer said:

The number plate obsession is a peculiarly  British thing. People in other places think it’s very weird, and in many countries the number isn’t tied to the car at all.

Each to his/her own; personally I can’t get myself very worked up about it either way.

I couldn't agree more, Mr SK10ODA.  

[Wack]

16 hours ago, The Vicar said:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1223987

Guess how much you think this 96 E Class is on for, and post below how far off your were.

This 1996 Mercedes-Benz E320 is a time-warp example of the W210 series E-Class model, having only covered 3,032 miles from new. ?

He needs to learn the difference between an exclamation mark and a question mark

 

[eddyramrod]

Yes, I thought the same.  However, he's passed several MoT tests this way, so I'm not going to worry.  As you can see, the reversing lights are tucked up into the bumper, well away from the sides.

[wuvvum]

Must be one of those "depends on the tester" things I suppose.  It's fairly obvious what a flashing red light on one side of the car means after all.  (Unless you're cadence braking and have a brake light out obvs.)

[cort16]

16 hours ago, Tadhg Tiogar said:

 

About £250 would be right. Surely the nadir of Daimler prices / Chrysler build quality*, the W210 is like a rusty hand-grenade just waiting to crumble in your hand shortly before you lob it. 

 

I was looking on carandclassic last night.  I think they should change their website address to be www.lolhowmuch.co. They should be trying to encourage their users to price sensibly as I've pretty much stopped going in it now as all the prices bonkers and not reflective of what things really sell for.

[wuvvum]

Although both of the bargainous ADO16s recently purchased by shiters have come from C&C, so there must still be some genuine sellers on there.

[1duck]

2 hours ago, Fabergé Greggs said:

My dream daily and forever car &  looks fairly reasonably priced.

Sometimes I get SUCH a strong urge to get a massive bank loan and live in poverty happily ever after. 

wait when did volvo amazons go to stupid prices?! it seems like yesterday that i sold one for less than a grand.

[Dick Cheeseburger]

40 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

indeed i agree 100% with that! (and with what @The Mighty Quinn etc said)

as mentioned it would be very good to have some sort of "registration number is non transferable on historic grounds" or something such  

(I like the idea about it being something you can apply for and I would not just limit it to just pre 63, although thats where a lot of it happens, but It would be good to have the option to apply for later vehicles, as I have seen a few vehicles suffix vehicles etc get robbed of their plates as well sadly)

 

as a side note, this is still on its orignal plate VOX 510 looks like as I thought the seller was not able to rob it of its number plate  

 

 

It always slightly niggled me that the plate which was original to my Impreza Catalunya from a few years back was robbed from it quite early on.  

It was originally R32 EVL, which currently resides on a R32 Golf, funnily enough.

Your own sleuthing confirmed the car is still around and now wearing R3 ARU. I still prefer the original!

[NorfolkNWeigh]

2 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

not sure how it is for other enthusiasts, perhaps its my Routemaster upbringing combined with rigorous DVLA research etc

but age related plates (especially ageless plates so pre 1963) stick out like a sore thumb and it always makes me sad when I see one on a historic vehicle 

especially so when it happens to a fleet vehicle where the number plate has greater significance to the vehicle then it would in a private Motorcar

and the robbing of number plates, can royally mess up someones research into a vehicle or vehicle type etc (this one I know from personal experience!)

 

and in the end it just seems like a massive shame, when a car has had its same number plate for say 50 years it seems a shame to part the 2 just for the sake of a quick buck...

 

and that story would not work, all age related plates are from registration series that were never issued, if the car was actually from such a remote location it would probably still have an AB1234 style number plate  a number of locations never actually ran out of their original 1903 style numbers until forced onto suffix plates in 1965!

this is coincidentally where some AAxxxx age related plates for pre 1930 vehicles come from today for those wondering

I think we can safely say you would definitely be in the 2% ( maybe 0.02%) of numberplate savvy enthusiasts, I mentioned.

[1duck]

10 minutes ago, Dick Longbridge said:

It always slightly niggled me that the plate which was original to my Impreza Catalunya from a few years back was robbed from it quite early on.  

It was originally R32 EVL, which currently resides on a R32 Golf, funnily enough.

Your own sleuthing confirmed the car is still around and now wearing R3 ARU. I still prefer the original!

I bet R32 EVL went for decent money to whoever has the golf though, i don't have an issue with original plates getting taken off cars.

[Skizzer]

1 hour ago, wuvvum said:

I couldn't agree more, Mr SK10ODA.  

Touché!

It’s still on retention though, in spite of the fact that I bought another Skoda two years ago next month — which shows you how much I can be arsed with such things.

[Skizzer]

1 hour ago, cort16 said:

I was looking on carandclassic last night.  I think they should change their website address to be www.lolhowmuch.co. They should be trying to encourage their users to price sensibly as I've pretty much stopped going in it now as all the prices bonkers and not reflective of what things really sell for.

Indeed.

Twenty five grand for a garden variety P6 with no MOT, anyone?

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1212360
 

This is a great investment

And swivel, pal.

[Dick Cheeseburger]

1 hour ago, 1duck said:

I bet R32 EVL went for decent money to whoever has the golf though, i don't have an issue with original plates getting taken off cars.

Most likely. 

That's great that you don't have an issue with original plates being removed from cars. Obviously it's the polar opposite of my own opinion. Thanks for that though.

[Volksy]

2 hours ago, wuvvum said:

Cheapish W123 limo with dreadful AMG wheels

Are they not C class Trimz? 

[Tadhg Tiogar]

1 hour ago, cort16 said:

I was looking on carandclassic last night.  I think they should change their website address to be www.lolhowmuch.co. They should be trying to encourage their users to price sensibly as I've pretty much stopped going in it now as all the prices bonkers and not reflective of what things really sell for.

Big portion of their sellers are flippers anyway.