invacar LightBulbFun's Invacar & general ramble thread, index on page 1, survivors lists on Pages 24/134 & AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12 Restoration from Page 186 onwards, still harping on...

[I_am_Diesel]

If you're up for an internet spat I can highly recommend the Politics Section in the Open Forum.  All of Autoshite's resident 'experts' hang out there.

[RoverFolkUs]

1 hour ago, brummiejon said:

BTW it might be worth reading this link below… PM me, it’s disrespectful to @LightBulbFun to spew you hate for me on his thread.:

@OldBlokeInACaravan is right, in law, it is bullying…

https://socialmediavictims.org/cyberbullying/types/flaming/#:~:text=Flaming is a form of,common places for flaming cyberbullying.

and a UK definition

https://www.familylives.org.uk/advice/bullying/cyberbullying/what-is-cyberbullying

Being made aware of the illegalities of what you are doing IS NOT bullying. Numerous people are trying to make you aware but you are still ignoring the facts citing various completely ludicrous "defences"

You were the one that posted inflammatory content in LBF's thread, nobody decided to randomly start pouncing on brummiejon for using an electric scooter, your decision to make a post along the lines of "lock me up and throw away the key" about using the vehicle illegally is what got you to this point. Take accountability for your own actions. 

[somewhatfoolish]

FFS. Stop admitting to breaking the law and people will stop bringing it up.

44 minutes ago, brummiejon said:

BTW it might be worth reading this link below… PM me, it’s disrespectful to @LightBulbFun to spew you hate for me on his thread.:

Physician, heal thyself. Start a thread and they can disagree with you there instead. 

[Christine]

Link it ...Work and Pensions might  give LBF a job, properly sorting out  DVLA  if they read it !   He can do this work  from home .. at tea break he could look up  all the invacares for free on their computer too !  And get what,  £40k +  a year  ?.

[M'coli]

On 8/12/2023 at 10:50 AM, brummiejon said:

When I used to go to Glastonbury festival in the 80s, if it rained, the only vehicles that could get off the site were Landrovers and 2CVs. You’re also forgetting that with one tool, you could wind up an entire old-car forum.

@brummiejon sorry for this FTFY, but I just had to go for the joke...

[BorniteIdentity]

2 hours ago, brummiejon said:

I don’t, which is why I get around at walking pace in a modified (brakes upgraded with modern brake shoes and  added brake lights) vintage mobility scooter. Even a road legal e-bike is faster than this  “death trap” as the flamers like to call it. 

Every attempt to register it with the DVLA has been refused (even with a certificate of registration from the issuing country council).  

They refused the original plate, an age related plate, a Q plate and everything else in between… even a supporting letter from the DVLAs registered owners club expert  was rejected. 

But hey…  I deleted my posts not because I was admitting to doing something I shouldn’t… I did it because I was concerned that the Flamers were spoiling LBFs thread…. I was mistaken, they did anyway and you’re still doing it… PM me if you’re pissed off.

The carnival photos where I “could have killed a child” doesn’t show how I was flanked by four people, there were crowd control Marshall’s  everywhere and the procession covered 1.5 miles in 2 hours (yeah, child killing speed). BTW, I am not wearing a brass helmet, it’s made of paper.

Thanks for the hate….. I’d rather be me than you and your pack of dogs lurking to bite without having anything constructive to say or any helpful suggestions other than “you’re an ignorant cunt”.

I told you I don’t care, and I don’t…. Report me… it’s all adding to the story that I’m writing with a journalist about the whole sorry state of the DVLA and now the pack of dogs on this forum will feature in it too. I’ll post a link to it when it’s published.

BTW it might be worth reading this link below… PM me, it’s disrespectful to @LightBulbFun to spew you hate for me on his thread.:

@OldBlokeInACaravan is right, in law, it is bullying…

https://socialmediavictims.org/cyberbullying/types/flaming/#:~:text=Flaming is a form of,common places for flaming cyberbullying.

and a UK definition

https://www.familylives.org.uk/advice/bullying/cyberbullying/what-is-cyberbullying

It’s not bullying. None of what you’ve quoted is bullying. None of what is above is bullying. None of it. 

This is. 

You’re a monumental helmet stroker of Champions League standards. You’re the mouth breathing, saliva dribbling cauliflower that keeps diverting this thread when it organically corrects itself. You’re thick enough to think people give two flying shits what you think about the DVLA, the legalities of insurance or whether you can drive your insufferable fucking turnip on the king’s highway. You’re too stupid to realise that literally fucking everyone is laughing in your face. 

Now. That enough? Or should I sprinkle in the odd c-bomb too?

Feel free to use the report function or, be a grown up, understand that your behaviour has been called out fairly - look at your feet with contrition and be quiet like a good little girl. 

[Jerzy Woking]

3 hours ago, brummiejon said:

 

… it’s all adding to the story that I’m writing with a journalist about the whole sorry state of the DVLA and now the pack of dogs on this forum will feature in it too. I’ll post a link to it when it’s published. 

 

Love to know where you found a journalist. Almost every one that say they are a journalist are no more than reporters. Which is no more than bring a member on a forum who can quote sentences they found on the internet somewhere.

I look forward to reading the article. Should be fun.

[Snake Charmer]

7 hours ago, Remspoor said:

No idea where this is from. It looks like a screen shot from a video.

 

Cool dent in the right headlamp, raising an eyebrow!

[JJ0063]

6 hours ago, brummiejon said:

it’s all adding to the story that I’m writing with a journalist about the whole sorry state of the DVLA and now the pack of dogs on this forum will feature in it too. I’ll post a link to it when it’s published.

 

I’m not sure I’m following, I completely am behind a story being written about the state of the DVLA (in some respects) and commend you for putting the effort in to do that. 
 

I’m a bit bemused as to how you’re going to encorporate the part where you quite literally wrote “I know it’s illegal but I don’t care, lock me up and throw away the key” and then spin it to some sort of cyber bullying when people call you out that it’s not a good idea to boast about illegal activities on a public forum? But hey, it’ll certainly be an interesting read! 

[Mrs6C]

A post in this thread has been hidden, pending Moderator review.

[BorniteIdentity]

Just so we are absolutely clear, I expect the post to be reinstated pretty sharpish. 

The team of moderators has no mandate, have been appointed through a series of coronations via other ‘kingpins’ with no mandate, and have no authority to decide what can be said and what can be heard.

Genuinely. If the feelings of a pillock who uses a vehicle illegally and without insurance trump the thoughts of someone who’s contributed to this community for eight years, we’ll call it a day now. 

[warren t claim]

4 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

Just so we are absolutely clear, I expect the post to be reinstated pretty sharpish. 

The team of moderators has no mandate, have been appointed through a series of coronations via other ‘kingpins’ with no mandate, and have no authority to decide what can be said and what can be heard.

Genuinely. If the feelings of a pillock who uses a vehicle illegally and without insurance trump the thoughts of someone who’s contributed to this community for eight years, we’ll call it a day now. 

WHS

[red5]

5 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

Just so we are absolutely clear, I expect the post to be reinstated pretty sharpish. 

The team of moderators has no mandate, have been appointed through a series of coronations via other ‘kingpins’ with no mandate, and have no authority to decide what can be said and what can be heard.

Genuinely. If the feelings of a pillock who uses a vehicle illegally and without insurance trump the thoughts of someone who’s contributed to this community for eight years, we’ll call it a day now. 

Seconded. In it's entirety. 

 

 

 

 

 

Deckchairs on the Titanic and your feet are damp. Get a grip. 

[chancer]

1 hour ago, Mrs6C said:

A post in this thread has been hidden, pending Moderator review.

Well if it isnt Mrs high and fuckin mighty stickin her beak in again. Can you please tell us how we go about a vote of no confidence to remove moderators? Cos i for one am getting sick of it

[BorniteIdentity]

Right.  Let's get down to brass tacks here.

As listed by noble motorist @brownnova -

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• Pornography
• Racism
• Sexism
• Homophobia
• Incitement to violence, threats to any person or group, weapons
• Unsubstantiated accusations or slander against any person
• Language that disparages disabled people or those with learning difficulties
• Persistent and unrelenting trolling

Are liable to be temporarily hidden pending review, and may be removed as being unacceptable content for a public forum.

 

 

None of those rules were broken.  That's not even with my biased, loose approach to rules in general.  None of them.  

Interestingly, the 'Welcome to Autoshite' thread suggests 'not being a dick'.  Someone who drives an unregistered, uninsured vehicle on the King's highway is - by default - a dick.  

Finally, 

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If a post needs hiding or editing a moderator will comment on the post being edited with the reason why. 

No reason has been put for my post being hidden.  Only that the self appointed moderator who seems to enjoy chastising me has hidden it for review.

This isn't difficult stuff, you know?  In fact - it seems to be quite difficult to continually fuck something up so consistently.  

[alcyonecorporation]

This is ridiculous. 

By hiding Bornite's post, the moderation team is condoning what the OP did. 
And don't give me the bollocks about 'some of the posts were spicy';  at best, they comprised a mild telling off. 

Shall I spell it out again? The OP admitted to driving an uninsured and unlicenced invalid carriage on the public road owing to a spat with the DVLA (something which, had he not starting arguing with posters on here, would have garnered sympathy), then doubled down by saying he would ride a unrestricted e-bike instead. 
LBF's thread, which he claims to respect, was derailed for several pages because he refused to concede these points, instead claiming that the truth of the matter amounted to bullying. 

How would this hold up in court? Is that what's got you twitching? Or is it the stated threat of bad publicity? 

You have overstepped the mark (a mark which, let's be honest, the moderation team created itself, for itself) and caused an even bigger mess. Well done. 

 

[Jim Bergerac]

I would respectfully suggest that if the moderators wished to keep things on track, the best course of action would be to remove the person who (seemingly through multiple accounts) keeps crayoning over and derailing this thread, having been called out over their illegal activities. 

[warren t claim]

2 hours ago, Mrs6C said:

A post in this thread has been hidden, pending Moderator review.

I'm sure you have the best intentions but your moderation massively misses the mark and just serves to cause more trouble than it solves. Nobody would think any less of you if you decided being admin on here was a little more than you could handle and passed the baton on. 

 

What was your post count before being made staff anyway? 

[brownnova]

Not saying the post should or shouldn’t have been deleted after the event, (I’ve given my views to the review), but I guess the question I ask myself is why was the post written in the first place?

Whilst I understand the desire to put BrummieJohn straight. I wonder if face to face, say in the street or in their workplace someone had publicly called a disabled person they didn’t really know a “saliva dribbling cauliflower” they would be proud of that fact? Would they want it recorded for posterity? Would their mates be slapping their back and finding it hilarious, or in real life would people be a bit more questioning? If it was a disabled relative or friend of yours would you be happy with that phrase (amongst others) directed at them? 

It’s really clear and obvious that BrummieJohn’s actions as stated are stupid in the extreme, and the constant and ridiculous barrage of “bullying” comments are derailing and pointless.  There’s no defending of him from me whatsoever. However, in my experience insulting people like that just makes them double down and achieves nothing other than maybe a few cheap laughs.

[NorthernMonkey]

8 minutes ago, brownnova said:

Not saying the post should or shouldn’t have been deleted after the event, (I’ve given my views to the review), but I guess the question I ask myself is why was the post written in the first place? I understand the desire to put BrummieJohn straight. 

I wonder if face to face, say in the street or in their workplace someone had publicly called a disabled person they didn’t really know a “saliva dribbling cauliflower” they would be proud of that fact? Would they want it recorded for posterity? Would their mates be slapping their back and finding it hilarious, or in real life would people be a bit more questioning? If it was a disabled relative or friend of yours would you be happy with that phrase (amongst others) directed at them? 

It’s really clear and obvious that BrummieJohn’s actions as stated are stupid in the extreme, and the constant and ridiculous barrage of “bullying” comments are derailing and pointless.  There’s no defending of him from me whatsoever. However, in my experience insulting people like that just makes them double down and achieves nothing other than maybe a few cheap laughs.

Absolutely agree.

I too have given my personal views regarding the moderation in the relevant admin group, however a couple of the particular phrases used strike me as being included purely for inflammatory reasons and have no relevance to Brummiejon’s apparent lack of capability to avoid making extremely stupid decisions regarding his motoring activities and then going on to brag about them on a public forum.

 

 

[BorniteIdentity]

8 minutes ago, brownnova said:

I wonder if face to face, say in the street or in their workplace someone had publicly called a disabled person they didn’t really know a “saliva dribbling cauliflower” they would be proud of that fact? Would they want it recorded for posterity?

Right. 

I see.

The comment was moderated on my behalf because I'm not in full possession of my faculties, and the self imposed referee was actually trying to save me from myself.  They realised, before I did so myself, that I either didn't mean what I said or that I wouldn't want it on public record.  

It's a nice reply, chap.  Although it doesn't actually address the direct question.  A little bit like when a politician is asked a question and they reply "well, I think a more important question is what are we doing to help people with their energy bills".

What, of the rules listed in the 'how we do things' thread, did I break? Calling someone a cauliflower isn't a hate crime.

I'll address your question directly.  Why was the post written in the first place?  Because he, more than anyone, was derailing the thread.  It was made in defence of a long term member who actually contributes to the community, rather than rocking up and picking fights with people.

I'll save you the hassle of replying to my question - I'd rather you were out enjoying your spare time.  You're welcome to make the decision you all think best fits the brand guidelines of Autoshite 2.0.  

[Crackers]

Christ alive man. Chill. 

Right or wrong, you definitely got out the wrong side of the bed this morning. 

[SiC]

I was just about to ask if the cat has pissed in his Ready Brek this morning. 

[LightBulbFun]

On 11/08/2023 at 10:53, Crackers said:

[OldBlokeInACaravan]

3 hours ago, BorniteIdentity said:

Just so we are absolutely clear, I expect the post to be reinstated pretty sharpish. 

The team of moderators has no mandate, have been appointed through a series of coronations via other ‘kingpins’ with no mandate, and have no authority to decide what can be said and what can be heard.

Genuinely. If the feelings of a pillock who uses a vehicle illegally and without insurance trump the thoughts of someone who’s contributed to this community for eight years, we’ll call it a day now. 

The 'good' people on here just don't 'get' it do they?  The name calling, 'pillock' for example, no need,  then there's the 'experts' who don't know what they're talking about!  

I would guess a good 90% of the 'all knowing' have never even driven or ridden an invalid carriage..... Let alone saved one! 

I feel the time is approaching where he invalid carriage fans need a separate friendly, non judgemental helpful forum, away from Model 70s and their ilk who think they are better than everyone else! 

[Inspector Morose]

32 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

Right. 

I see.

The comment was moderated on my behalf because I'm not in full possession of my faculties, and the self imposed referee was actually trying to save me from myself.  They realised, before I did so myself, that I either didn't mean what I said or that I wouldn't want it on public record.  

It's a nice reply, chap.  Although it doesn't actually address the direct question.  A little bit like when a politician is asked a question and they reply "well, I think a more important question is what are we doing to help people with their energy bills".

What, of the rules listed in the 'how we do things' thread, did I break? Calling someone a cauliflower isn't a hate crime.

I'll address your question directly.  Why was the post written in the first place?  Because he, more than anyone, was derailing the thread.  It was made in defence of a long term member who actually contributes to the community, rather than rocking up and picking fights with people.

I'll save you the hassle of replying to my question - I'd rather you were out enjoying your spare time.  You're welcome to make the decision you all think best fits the brand guidelines of Autoshite 2.0.  

I think the gist is 

To remove a cunt, don’t try and hammer a bigger cunt over it.

[loserone]

Yes! A splinter forum will solve this problem!

[juular]

1 minute ago, loserone said:

Yes! A splinter forum will solve this problem!

Bornite can crowdfund it.

[Jim Bergerac]

4 minutes ago, OldBlokeInACaravan said:

I feel the time is approaching where he invalid carriage fans need a separate friendly, non judgemental helpful forum, away from Model 70s and their ilk who think they are better than everyone else! 

You seem to have a bit of resentment here towards the Model 70 people going by this comment and your goading of LBF for not backing you up. 

Is the Invacare Carriage community heading for a People's Judean Front style split?

[Jerzy Woking]

12 minutes ago, OldBlokeInACaravan said:

The 'good' people on here just don't 'get' it do they?  The name calling, 'pillock' for example, no need,  then there's the 'experts' who don't know what they're talking about!  

I will ask, but am pretty confident that you will not reply.

Which experts (your word, not theirs) are wrong, and why?