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[Jim Bell]

Theyre horrible.

[BeEP]

new style mot certificates came out today.

 

I appreciate you're a tester and therefore know what's happening, but according to this page of the gov.uk site:

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mot-changes-20-may-2018

 

the new certificates (& defect categorisation) come into effect on 20th May, along with all the other changes.

 

Confused?  Me?  Never!

[Lacquer Peel]

Saw a panda car today flying through Rochdale, a brand spanking new Peugeot 308, going FAR quicker then the povvo spec diesel lump.

Even the base 308 diesel goes 113MPH and does 0-60MPH in 10.9s. For perspective that's not much slower than a Senator 3.0 12v.

[meggersdog]

I appreciate you're a tester and therefore know what's happening, but according to this page of the gov.uk site:

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mot-changes-20-may-2018

 

the new certificates (& defect categorisation) come into effect on 20th May, along with all the other changes.

 

Confused?  Me?  Never!

 

bloody site went down for three hours this morning.New certificates now but new defect categories not until next month !! Even dvsa don't know what's happening yet as it's still all in a draft.It's supposed to bring us inline with the rest of the E.U. even though erm yeah

[mrbenn]

Had one of my cars MOT'd this lunchtime. Tester said, as above, new certificates brought in yesterday and system down today. Had to get a temporary certificate which will be exchanged for a proper one when system back up and running. Wasn't showing as a pass online earlier but now is so guess it's sorted itself out. Quite glad I've got in before the changes next month!

[panhard65]

Yeah I had an mot earlier and the system went down half way through. What twat decided to update things in the middle of the day. It has put the testing station way behind and my 12.30 got moved to 5pm. The new "certificate" is harder to read in my opinion. Nothing is in nice easy to understand boxes it is just a mess. So much for trying to make things easier for the general public to understand. DVSA 0/10 Fuckin idiots

[BeEP]

Something else I spotted in the summary of MOT changes doc I linked above.  It states that the 40 year exemption applies from the car's 40th birthday (the example they use is a car registered on 31/5/78 becoming exempt from MOT on 31/5/18).  Fair enough, you may think.  Yet the docs describing everything about the 40 year exemption in detail describe the eligibility as being linked to having historic tax status (you will only have the option to claim exemption when at the point of taxing a vehicle in the historic tax class).  Historic tax doesn't apply (unless the rules on this have changed as well) until 1st April of the year following the year in which the car passed its 40th birthday. Unless they've updated the detailed docs re MOT exemption since I read them a couple of months ago DVSA seem to be contradicting themselves.

[meggersdog]

put me behind too because I'd run out of ct20 forms and couldn't log onto the website to download any more.put it in a pdf now so should be ok next time.Might have cost me a new trade customer too will have wait and see.

[SRi05]

Anyone here used a site called carparts4less before? Seems to use the same interface as eurocarparts but slightly cheaper. Need a couple of rear brake discs for the panda and they're selling them for £18 a pair!

[egg]

yep, CP4L is the same company I believe (I learnt that here, not my own knowledge!)

[gm]

same company apparently - generally a bit cheaper if you can wait for delivery

[SRi05]

Cheers lads

[dollywobbler]

Anyone here used a site called carparts4less before? Seems to use the same interface as eurocarparts but slightly cheaper. Need a couple of rear brake discs for the panda and they're selling them for £18 a pair!

 

Yes. They're even more hopeless than Euro Car Parts in my experience. Hopeless comms, pure pot luck whether you get the right bits. They are cheap though.

[Crispian_J_Hotson]

I thought CP4L was all the old shite ECP couldn't shift? I've had some great* condition parts from CP4L, mostly wrong. I was behind a ECP van yesterday and they still advertise 'ANY PART FOR ANY CAR'. Anyone with old shite would have experienced that they actually don't. It bugs me so much that I've mentioned this to them verbally and by email but it falls on deaf ears/ eyes. I have since given up my campaign and admitted defeat.

[Arthur Foxhake]

Going to view a ford cougar v6 on Sunday.

Purely in the interests of this place.

Anybody have any interest?

Il be getting it at scrap money so any offers invited via P.M., anything over 120 will most likely win it.

Updates to follow on sunday. If there is no interest i will suggest he calls James Brown.

 

Also, possible Transit shenanigans.

One is dead, one is ready for MOT, the minibus is not an enjoyable experience aas a daily, so a deal is in the offing to sell the dead one at export money and buy another without MOT for the same dough.

New one requires no where near the heroic amounts of welding the dead one does. But still needs welding, obv.

 

ETA.

This is after being offered a 2k loan from the fella I sub contract to,to not arrive at his sites in such scruffy tat anymore.

I looked at 2k vans and immediately lowered my sights to an honest description of a broken van and am viewing on Sunday.

 

I've also pretty much finished the camper for now.

 

 

[Guest Hooli]

Something else I spotted in the summary of MOT changes doc I linked above.  It states that the 40 year exemption applies from the car's 40th birthday (the example they use is a car registered on 31/5/78 becoming exempt from MOT on 31/5/18).  Fair enough, you may think.  Yet the docs describing everything about the 40 year exemption in detail describe the eligibility as being linked to having historic tax status (you will only have the option to claim exemption when at the point of taxing a vehicle in the historic tax class).  Historic tax doesn't apply (unless the rules on this have changed as well) until 1st April of the year following the year in which the car passed its 40th birthday. Unless they've updated the detailed docs re MOT exemption since I read them a couple of months ago DVSA seem to be contradicting themselves.

 

Date of manufacture not registration isn't it?

[mrbenn]

Got my MOT certificate now. The only way I could tell there were no advisories was by looking it up on the internet. Progress!

[BeEP]

Date of manufacture not registration isn't it?

 

Yes. historic tax is from date of manufacture; I don't think my post suggested otherwise!  But that wasn't the point anyway.  The point was the discrepancy between two DVSA documents as to when 40 year MOT exemption applies.

[Jams]

Keep looking at her Leon and thinking its about to shit itself so I'm going to tidy it up an fuck it off.

 

Decided to buy her a Mondeo st tdci wish me luck!

[DodgeRover]

You'd think so but no bananas. Camira used 'conventional' fittings (well, to me they're the normal male/female threaded couplings) but GM stuff of that era uses banjo fittings, which I'd not previously known about. Every day's a school day!

 

Plus, brake parts for an unloved Holden which didn't sell all that well, nigh on 30 years ago, is not well catered for.

Can Pirtek (or their NZ equivalent) not just make you one up?

Get your WOF by phone next time saves so much messing around...

[Eddie Honda]

Yes. historic tax is from date of manufacture; I don't think my post suggested otherwise!

But it isn't it's the April after it steps forward in an annual bloc. It doesn't roll by the day.

[Guest Hooli]

Yes. historic tax is from date of manufacture; I don't think my post suggested otherwise!  But that wasn't the point anyway.  The point was the discrepancy between two DVSA documents as to when 40 year MOT exemption applies.

 

You said registration date for MOT exemptness.

 

I was double checking what I thought was correct for when I get my now 42 year old bike rebuilt & stuff.

[BeEP]

But it isn't it's the April after it steps forward in an annual bloc. It doesn't roll by the day.

 

That's exactly what I put in my post!  Quoting myself  "Historic tax doesn't apply (unless the rules on this have changed as well) until 1st April of the year following the year in which the car passed its 40th birthday."

 

Again, the point was that the comprehensive docs re 40 year MOT exemption tie it to historic tax (April 1st of the following year etc) whereas the summary doc of all changes coming in on May 20th states the MOT exemption will be a 40 year rolling limit from date of registration.

[BeEP]

You said registration date for MOT exemptness.

 

I was double checking what I thought was correct for when I get my now 42 year old bike rebuilt & stuff.

 

Yes, the summary doc linked in my earlier post states MOT exemption is 40 years from date of registration (and rolling).  As per my previous posts this contradicts the full documents re MOT exemption which tie it to historic tax.

[Ghosty]

Changed the Prelude's front springs today for new Monroe items, so that's new springs and shocks now, and all the bushes checked to be OK. 

 

The tracking seems to be fine now but the ride height still seems to be uneven - I don't think cars sit level on my drive though  as it's sunk in well-used parts (the Volvo didn't sit right either) so as well as giving it time to settle and adjust to the new springs I'll have to check it on level ground at some pint

[Jon]

My Dutch neighbour has just called round to tell me about an article in one of our national papers, about "an armoured Peugeot like mine". 

 

Erm, yeah, right. An armoured 205 GTI. Whatevs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weird. Couldn't think of a worst base to start with for an armour protected car but then I suppose that the incongruousness of it is sort of the point.

 

http://www.driven.co.nz/news/lifestyle/utterly-mint-peugeot-205-gti-classic-conceals-bulletproof-secret/

 

 

 

 

Still, it's nice to know he could correctly identify the car, despite their slight* dissimilarities:

 

 

 

 

White room show queen^

 

 

 

 

Versus the crushing reality. Oh well, at least I can enjoy driving mine!

[Anthony]

On the subject of 205 GTi's....

 

With spring finally having sprung, I dragged one of the 205 from it's prolonged winter slumber, re-insured it (a whisker over £100 FC - bargain) and then sailed through it's MOT with no advisories.  Rewarded it with a service and replacing the suspected under-reading oil pressure sender - it's now gained about 2 bar across the board and now subjectively looks to read about what I'd expect and less like it's one redline from grenading.

 

 

Looking at the MOT certificate, I only did 2500 miles in it last year which is bordering on criminal - it's no investment-grade concours example so deserves to be used and enjoyed whenever the opportunity arises.  The pleasure in these cars is driving them after all.

[Jon]

Your 205 is Pebble Beach spec compared to mine (which is more Skegness Beach). Seems we've done over 50000 miles in it in 7 years, which is probably big miles for one nowadays. It's still the only car we own that gets notes under the wipers from hopeful buyers, though.

[BorniteIdentity]

On the subject of 205 GTi's....

 

With spring finally having sprung, I dragged one of the 205 from it's prolonged winter slumber, re-insured it (a whisker over £100 FC - bargain) and then sailed through it's MOT with no advisories. Rewarded it with a service and replacing the suspected under-reading oil pressure sender - it's now gained about 2 bar across the board and now subjectively looks to read about what I'd expect and less like it's one redline from grenading.

 

 

Looking at the MOT certificate, I only did 2500 miles in it last year which is bordering on criminal - it's no investment-grade concours example so deserves to be used and enjoyed whenever the opportunity arises. The pleasure in these cars is driving them after all.

 

I hate you, dude.

[Ghosty]

Tracking is as bad as ever but the ride height is level now! 

 

Time to start investigating rear suspension bits, there's one duff one I know of and have the part on the way, but what else could be hiding...