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[Cord Fourteener]

10 hours ago, brownnova said:

Wales is a bit damp... Had to drive through a hefty-ish flood to get home last night, didn’t see it until we were practically in it, and gave everyone a lesson on how not to drive through a flood. Anyway all was well we didn’t stall or cut out, and got home fine.

This morning I’m getting a small amount of steam from the radiator... 

Just floodwater drying off I hope... about drive to the midlands!!! 

It's a bit damp, to say the least!

[brownnova]

Jeez the drive to the midlands was punctuated at regular intervals with large bodies of water, one of which I deemed impassable by the mighty Saab and ended up down lanes with further water traps! Made it eventually... 

[richardmorris]

15 hours ago, Tim_E said:

It's a bit damp, to say the least!

My dad had planned on taking the x1/9 out to the club AGM at Crewe heritage centre, but didn’t because of the weather.

[dozeydustman]

Given the Suzuki a nice run up to Manchester. Staying here for the week with my niece and her hubby and 4 week old nipper. I may also be fixing niece's hubby's Volvo while I'm here.

[wuvvum]

Didn't get as much done as I'd hoped this weekend as Saturday was pretty much a complete write off due to the weather, but got a few bits done today.

I bought a cheapo set of seat covers for the A2 and spent a fun* half hour or so fitting them today.  The seats aren't ripped but they need a clean (previous owner had sprogs who did spillages) which I can't be arsed with at the moment, so the covers were an easy way of making it look a bit tidier inside.  Whilst driving the car last week the MIL came on, and when plugged in it came up with the same MAP sensor code as before, so the next job was to extricate the sensor (not particularly easy to get to) and give it a good clean with contact cleaner (apparently carb cleaner is too harsh).  It hasn't made any difference to the running so I think it needs a new sensor - they're only about 12 quid so I'll order one in.  It's still perfectly usable as it is, but the occasional stuttering on a light throttle can be mildly irritating around town.

The non-functioning heater blower on the Scudo turned out to be due to the fact that when the bypass switch was fitted the relay was wired in wrong and appears to have blown.  The switch that was fitted is rated at 25A, so I decided to do away with the relay and just wire the live feed from the battery straight to the switch.  So I now have demistage, which is a major bonus at this time of year (and in this weather).  There's still not much in the way of heat - when driving along with the blower off and the dash vents open there's definitely some warmth coming through, but the blower overwhelms this and it starts blowing cool after a few seconds.  The inlet pipe to the heater matrix is lovely and hot, but the outlet is barely lukewarm, which bears out the previous owner's assumption about a blocked matrix.  I'm going to try the old dishwasher tablet trick to see if that helps - if not, a new matrix is only 20 quid off eBay, although I haven't fully investigated yet how much of a twat it'd be to fit.

The broken speedo appears to be an issue with the instrument cluster itself, as the clock is also dead - I don't think the speed sensing gubbins are at issue as the cruise control works fine.  I will take the cluster out at some point and see if there's anything obviously broken / loose / disconnected, but that's further down the priority list as I'm quite happy to continue using the sat nav for now.  Main priorities are to get the heater working and do the front brakes (pads have been ordered and will be fitted next time we have a dry weekend).  I'm still quite pleased with the van overall though - I might even end up selling the Maxus.

I made a start on prepping the V70 for the strut top mount replacement.  I ended up having to hacksaw through the drop link as that wasn't going to come undone for love nor money - appreciate I'm going to have to get it off sooner or later, but access should be a lot easier with the strut off the car.  I've cracked all the other bolts off and they all look like they should come undone OK - I didn't get any further than that though as I was running out of daylight (poxy GMT).  So that's yet another job for another dry weekend...

[Mrcento]

Currently trying to work out what "modern" daily i'm buying, it's down between 2, a 406 hdi estate and a vec c v6 diesel estate. Both have pros and cons but both will do the motorway cruise and lug car parts, skip run and furniture moving thing/generally being "an car" no bother. Both is probably the correct answer but nowhere to keep both, sadly.

Vectra is cheaper to buy, more spacious, quicker, better on the motorway (in terms or engine and wind noise), plentiful spares, more easily upgradeable, more useful toys (cruise control being the big one), more modern, but less economical, more expensive to tax and insure and being the V6, has its own potential fuel pump could go at any moment worries. Also has a shorter MOT, but still 6 months, so not bad, Always liked the C estates in SRI spec and really not too many around here, let alone for sale.

406 will be more expensive to buy but full years MOT, more economical, cheap tax, bit cheaper insurance, better on country roads (i honestly think the 406 is pretty much Peugeot's high point in the ride/handling balance), about as well equipped as a 406 can be (bar cruise, which is weird when it has every other option Peugeot pretty much ever fitted, but would be retro fittable), should be more reliable but being French..... Everything seems to work on it bar the remote part of the central locking and a distorted radio/sat nav screen (not that i'd ever use that, but it looks ugly with lines across it, Only £30 on ebay to fix though).

 

 

[wuvvum]

I wouldn't touch a V6 CDTi with a barge pole.  Remapped 1.9 CDTi would be just as quick, more economical and less troublesome. 

A nice high spec 406, on the other hand, I definitely wouldn't kick out of bed.

[Mrcento]

23 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

I wouldn't touch a V6 CDTi with a barge pole.  Remapped 1.9 CDTi would be just as quick, more economical and less troublesome. 

A nice high spec 406, on the other hand, I definitely wouldn't kick out of bed.

I'd go 1.9 150bhp if i had to pick between Vecs, but there's zero 150bhp 1.9 Cdti estates for sale within 200 miles of me. Have heard different opinions on the v6 CDTI, Some say it's junk, fuel pump problems, thirsty etc, others say it gives little problem in the vectra if left untuned, the late ones were pretty much sorted and as reliable as could be (and this one is on a 58 plate) delivers torque in a wallop and still easily returns 50+MPG on a run, The 1.9s also aren't short of problems with EGR's (something the V6 seems way less prone for), swirl flaps and eating DMF's. They also have the M32 cheese box, whereas the v6 has the tougher 6 speed F40.

But yup i'm still put off because i'd still prefer the 1.9.... I've fancied one for a while, even though this v6 is the spec i'm after and they're getting harder and harder to find, the engine has just enough of a bad rep to make me wary.

I am leaning towards the 406... which probably means i'll have a Vectra outside soon ?

 

 

[bramz7]

Yeah another vote for a nice HDI 406 here, get a good one and it'll last ages. Get the 110, don't bother with the troublesome 2.2 136 or whatever it is. 

I got over 700 miles to a tank on a 406 and a Xantia with that engine, and they're surprisingly competent for a nearly 20 year old engine. 

[iainrcz]

I had a 1.8 petrol D9 406 saloon it was a cracking car.

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[loserone]

Buy both then sell me the 406.

[SiC]

6 hours ago, Mrcento said:

I'd go 1.9 150bhp if i had to pick between Vecs, but there's zero 150bhp 1.9 Cdti estates for sale within 200 miles of me. Have heard different opinions on the v6 CDTI, Some say it's junk, fuel pump problems, thirsty etc, others say it gives little problem in the vectra if left untuned, the late ones were pretty much sorted and as reliable as could be (and this one is on a 58 plate) delivers torque in a wallop and still easily returns 50+MPG on a run, The 1.9s also aren't short of problems with EGR's (something the V6 seems way less prone for), swirl flaps and eating DMF's. They also have the M32 cheese box, whereas the v6 has the tougher 6 speed F40.

@Bren will tell you his experience of his V6 CTDi Vectra C...

Well he actually now owns a BMW 645i as it turns out that is far less of a liability and stronger. Even though those V8 BMWs aren't a known reliable unit either!

[320touring]

My brother got me a gift for the ML

A unicorn air freshener

Smells braw

[richardmorris]

First spot of the day. Spectacular Spanish car.

[Lord Sterling]

10 hours ago, Mrcento said:

Currently trying to work out what "modern" daily i'm buying, it's down between 2, a 406 hdi estate and a vec c v6 diesel estate. Both have pros and cons but both will do the motorway cruise and lug car parts, skip run and furniture moving thing/generally being "an car" no bother. Both is probably the correct answer but nowhere to keep both, sadly.

Vectra is cheaper to buy, more spacious, quicker, better on the motorway (in terms or engine and wind noise), plentiful spares, more easily upgradeable, more useful toys (cruise control being the big one), more modern, but less economical, more expensive to tax and insure and being the V6, has its own potential fuel pump could go at any moment worries. Also has a shorter MOT, but still 6 months, so not bad, Always liked the C estates in SRI spec and really not too many around here, let alone for sale.

Not tried a Vectra C V6 Diesel myself but the advice from someone in the know is to run away and keep on running. I suppose one with high mileage would show that it has been lookee after and proven to be able to keep on going.

1.9CDTi is pretty good.  Had no problems at all with it bar the spring and rear brake pipes and it is nearly at 200k:

As a modern daily with loads of space I love it. 

Watch out for flywheel problems, springs and make sure all works. Some of the facelift ones came with a SatNav (model known as Vectra CDTi 'Nav pack' or summat)

[xtriple]

Reset all the #adaptives# the other day, faster throttle response and a fresh gearbox. Thought while I was doing all that I'd ask how much to have the gearbox fluid and filter changed at the local (very good) transmission specialists.

£400 plus VAT!

Er, fuck that! I like the car and have no problem wasting money on tat I can look at but £400 for something I can't even see? No chance. If I'm spending that much I want some evidecne of the spend, something sparkly/bling/chavy.

Oh yeah, I also ordered from Amazon (or possibly eBay wasn't paying attention!) soem stuff called Gumme Pflegge or something close to that to do all the seals on the doors and roof. The Mercedes club/forum swear by it.  Not expensive so I bought two 'roll on' tins for £14 delivered. When it gets here I will brave the weather and go do all the rubber bits on the car as it did leak fractionally the other day by the edge of the drivers side mirror. Mind you, the rain was torrential and the wind blowing at 70mph so I think I would have leaked.

[Bren]

V6 Vectra did you say? Don't bother. Engine is a lemon. They have SCV problems but the biggest killer is HGF. £300 a year road tax, low twenties around town.

Ours is still on the road but I suspect the repair consisted of k seal - it was dropping 400 ml of coolant a day. I know an excellent tech who did the head gaskets on his - £800 in genuine parts and the repair lasted 20k.

They are a nightmare to work on - " not something we want to get involved in" became a common utterance at garages. Parts are extortionate because isuzu.

A 406 is a better proposition but they are like b5 passats - lots of knackered shit and good ones command a premium. The only mechanical issue with the pug is the gearboxes get a bit crunchy.

I would rather put my dick in a blender than have another car with the isuzu engine.

You haz been warned.

[Spurious]

The C5 has been travelling this week, trip back over to Ireland.

Averaging 42mpg on a motorway/rural work occasionally fully laden.

Comfortably and trouble free.. Not bad for a car bought cheaply 2 years ago.

[Spurious]

The C5 has been travelling this week, trip back over to Ireland.

Averaging 42mpg on a motorway/rural work occasionally fully laden.

Comfortably and trouble free.. Not bad for a car bought cheaply 2 years ago.

It does need a very good wash tbh, inside and out.

Going potholing/caving usually involves manky damp gear so the soap and water will be out soon. Alongside the hoooover.

[Mrcento]

1 hour ago, Bren said:

V6 Vectra did you say? Don't bother. Engine is a lemon. They have SCV problems but the biggest killer is HGF. £300 a year road tax, low twenties around town.

Ours is still on the road but I suspect the repair consisted of k seal - it was dropping 400 ml of coolant a day. I know an excellent tech who did the head gaskets on his - £800 in genuine parts and the repair lasted 20k.

They are a nightmare to work on - " not something we want to get involved in" became a common utterance at garages. Parts are extortionate because isuzu.

A 406 is a better proposition but they are like b5 passats - lots of knackered shit and good ones command a premium. The only mechanical issue with the pug is the gearboxes get a bit crunchy.

I would rather put my dick in a blender than have another car with the isuzu engine.

You haz been warned.

Cheers. I think that pretty much confirms i'm right to be wary of the Vec and right to hold out for a 1.9 if i was to have one. Problems is the only ones that come up nearish me are all with f*cked DMF's. The pull for the 406 is stronger, reckon if i can get the price down a bit more it'll be a goer.

[Cavcraft]

If you're going Vectra then the 150 is a hoot to drive, but the 120 seems more reliable.

[Mrcento]

1 minute ago, Cavcraft said:

If you're going Vectra then the 150 is a hoot to drive, but the 120 seems more reliable.

I'm pretty familiar with the engines mechanically being a Fiat tickler by night.... Well that's what the judge accused me of anyway.

There's just never any decent working ones for sale near here, i've genuinely seen more Maserati bi-turbos for sale locally than working Vectra estates of any flavour.

I'm not even exaggerating, there's 3 for sale near me right now v 1 Vec estate, that V6 CDTI. Next nearest working one seems to be Bradford.

[Bren]

The 120 is not as lively as the 150 obviously plus the glow plugs on the 120 are a PITA to get at.

[Bren]

21 minutes ago, Mrcento said:

I'm pretty familiar with the engines mechanically being a Fiat tickler by night.... Well that's what the judge accused me of anyway.

There's just never any decent working ones for sale near here, i've genuinely seen more Maserati bi-turbos for sale locally than working Vectra estates of any flavour.

I'm not even exaggerating, there's 3 for sale near me right now v 1 Vec estate, that V6 CDTI. Next nearest working one seems to be Bradford.

Birmingham seems to have more cheap cars than anywhere. Buying stuff like this is fraught with risk - I was surprised how much people are asking for tired cars with hardly any MOT. The price of old cars seems to be going up - not sure if it is because it is harder to get credit or because it's all people can afford.

[richardmorris]

Thumbs up for ECP trading as carpartsaver on eBay. A pair of front indicator lenses, the correct ones, arrived by DHL this morning at 10am. £15.50 with free delivery. Ordered at 5.30 on Friday.

[wuvvum]

10 minutes ago, richardmorris said:

ECP

 

10 minutes ago, richardmorris said:

the correct ones

[clayts450]

Up early to collect keys to new council garage from their offices. In and out in five minutes. As quick thought I'd go and check the new pad out.

Keys bear no resemblance whatsoever to the lock fitted, way too small.

Either that or I was at the wrong garage.

I'll sort it out next week, couldn't be arsed, and had to shoot off to work anyway.

Knowing my luck they evicted the last tenant and he just stuck his own lock on there in revenge.

[Mrcento]

12 minutes ago, clayts450 said:

Up early to collect keys to new council garage from their offices. In and out in five minutes. As quick thought I'd go and check the new pad out.

Keys bear no resemblance whatsoever to the lock fitted, way too small.

Either that or I was at the wrong garage.

I'll sort it out next week, couldn't be arsed, and had to shoot off to work anyway.

Knowing my luck they evicted the last tenant and he just stuck his own lock on there in revenge.

A couple of years back, i went up to my council lock up and got the surprise that none of keys i had fitted any of the locks on it anymore.

The thickos at the council changed the locks on the wrong one and didn't even inform me. Probably because they couldn't find anyone to explain that they'd effectively destroyed my locks and broken into my garage before locking me out of it.

When i phoned them up, they were extremely apologetic and somebody ran round late at night to put the new keys through my door.

[lanciamatt]

I worked for vauxhall for 13 years now, the 1.9 150bhp is a great engine, it's just the shit that's bolted to it. I love the V6 diesel, only problems we had with them was fuel pumps, which are quite a job to change, but later in the engines life there was a TSB fetched out by vauxhall to just change the solenoids on the back of the pump, which you can do without taking the pump off . Nice vectra estate with v6 mated with auto, flying machine. 

[320touring]

Faux by faux VS 4x4