Never trust a car salesman

[Mr A Lawrence]

Bought my jaguar S type diesel last December and the salesman assured us that it'd be serviced when we collect it.

 

Noticed it was using a little more fuel than normal so I investigated.

 

This is what I found.

 

Bet the lying fucker can't lay straight in bed!!

[stuboy]

car salesman... telling the truth...shocker

[Christine]

Notice how the cruddy bit  is more on one end ?  Save money and turn it around to use the clean bit . Or if you're p x ing  , just flip it over !

[Junkman]

You can buy a car from me sight unseen. Sweet as a nut. Trust me.

[Lord Sterling]

To be honest with you, it's always a smart thing to get the car serviced as soon as you've bought it no matter what anyone says. Of course salesmen will lie, they want a sale and cash in thier pocket. Unfortunately you cannot expect everyone to be telling the truth.

[J-Rod]

I had this issue with my Legacy. 5 mins down the road I discovered a blowing exhaust and two fucked shocks. My own fault for not being more thorough initially I guess. Played hell with them until they put it right but then changed the exhaust anyway for a stainless.

 

That car has always annoyed me - it seemed like a good car underneath but I picked a bad one that hadn't been looked after.

[brownnova]

I boight a Polo from a dealer once and he promised to service it. So when I arrived to pick it up I asked ' have you serviced it?' to which he said that he had.

 

So I proceeded to open the bonnet and popped out the dipstick, which was covered in dark black oil.

 

'I thought you'd serviced it' said I.

 

Silence

 

'Well I need it today, so you'd better wrote on my receipt that you're going to service it'.

 

'Erm... OK' he sheepishly replied

 

So I took it back 2 days later for a service and it was done properly...

[gordonbennet]

My son has just bought a petrol 325i estate from a main dealer (not BMW), it doesn't have a dipstick and according to what he's read so far there's no option for one (personally i bet there's a work around somewhere on BMWLand forum).

 

Not a car for me cos i want to see smell and feel the oil, how the effin hell are you to know if they, or anyone, changed the oil, what happens if the level sensor is faulty and it's either got too much or too little oil...unless you change the oil yourself and put in the right amount and then check the reading you'd never otherwise know till it goes bang.

 

On the good or bad side depending how you look at it, it's on piggin runflats but sensible 17" (well 17" is as sensible as 325i world gets) size, we both wondered how much they would be when needed, but even the likes of Conti and Pirelli RF's can be had for £80  and £70 apiece from Tyreleader, the dealer fitted a brand spanking set of Firestone RF's for the fresh MOT it comes with, so tyre renewal is some time away and seeing how they've done the right thing tyrewise and haven't fitted WanKing ditchfinders, we can only assume they really did change the oil.

Handily the new winter set from his previous Volvo S60 are the same size so at least he won't be sat spinning should we get a snowflake this winter.

[Lord Sterling]

My son has just bought a petrol 325i estate from a main dealer (not BMW), it doesn't have a dipstick and according to what he's read so far there's no option for one

I've read somwhere else that dipsticks had been deleted on some other new model cars. Is this the future now? Catering for the non-car person and making it harder for the old-school home mechanic/tinkerer? If it is I find it rather disturbing.

 

What next? Sealed oil filler caps? Sealed bonnets?

[Matt]

Not a car for me cos i want to see smell and feel the oil, how the effin hell are you to know if they, or anyone, changed the oil, what happens if the level sensor is faulty and it's either got too much or too little oil...unless you change the oil yourself and put in the right amount and then check the reading you'd never otherwise know till it goes bang.

 

Once it's out of warranty what do they care? They've got plenty of customers who will buy new and replace every time they update the range.

[sloth]

most land rovers and range rovers are now stickless, as are some vws and audis.

[UmBongo]

Most salesmen don't want to know after the deal is done.

[Timewaster]

salesmen don't want to know after the deal is done.

FIFY

[gordonbennet]

I've read somwhere else that dipsticks had been deleted on some other new model cars. Is this the future now? Catering for the non-car person and making it harder for the old-school home mechanic/tinkerer? If it is I find it rather disturbing.

 

What next? Sealed oil filler caps? Sealed bonnets?

 

We've been through and seen through much of this bollocks, many makers went through (some still there) the sealed for life gearbox fad, yeah if you think life is 8 years or 100k miles thats fine, some have since quietly dropped the SFL cobblers and gone back to a service regime, but as mentioned above if they only warrant the car for 3 years anyway who basically gives a stuff.

 

I like our Subaru Outbacks level checking, three dipsticks under the bonnet...yes and another bugger behind the wheel i know...engine, gearbox and front diff have dipsticks, the only level you have to check in the normal way is the rear diff, oh and all have easy to access drain and refill plugs, all cars should be like this.

In all honesty even mid to late 2000's Scooby's should be well up a shiters shopping list, made to be worked on.

[Bren]

Only a dipstick buys a car without a dipstick.

[EssDeeWon]

Whenever I read a car advert and it states 'Just Serviced' I instantly think 'Bullshit!!

 

Whats the oil like? Did that look clean when you bought it?

[Guest Lord Sward]

Mercs haven't had dipsticks for donkeys years.  its the future.

 

As for a 'sales service' its an oil and filter and thats it.  You're buying a car from the salesman, not a service.  Unless you were buying from me of course, in which case you'd also get a pollen filter.  Now THATS customer service.

[purplebargeken]

What 'just' a pollen filter? What if the car doesn't have one? 

[gordonbennet]

Yes, Merc lorries and some others haven't had dipsticks for over 10 years now, some makes do have dipsticks as well but you have to tilt the cab to find them, well done, and in Iveco's wondrous case with Stralis they didn't fit an extended filler neck so you have to tilt the cab to add oil to an engine that drinks it, brilliant bit of design that chaps.

[Stanky]

They'll claim it was serviced just before you bought it and the state of that air filter is because you live in an abandoned coal mine.

[Lacquer Peel]

My first car was a Mk2 Polo with "all the belts done". 3 months later, it died due to stripped teeth on the cambelt.

I wish I knew more about cars when I was 18.

 

I fell into the same trap with the Volvo and (amateur) salesman's patter, it hadn't had a major service for over 10 years and the tappets are noisy because of missed oil changes.

[J-Rod]

Once it's out of warranty what do they care? They've got plenty of customers who will buy new and replace every time they update the range.

Another one of the reasons the bini had to go. 64k on the clock, alternator went then the clutch control cables... Both within 3 months of each other and cost loads to put right. Modern shite is actually shite - and not at all endearing either

[Sigmund Fraud]

My first car was a Mk2 Polo with "all the belts done". 3 months later, it died due to stripped teeth on the cambelt.

 

Yeah, last time I trusted a car's "full service history" I ended up having to fix this :

 

[HH-R]

That reminds me, my belt is due for replacement...

[cort16]

My jukes dipstick is built into the oil filler cap. Took me ages to find it.

[J-Rod]

You weren't ment to! Look out, some Gentlemen will be coming to silence you shortly...!

[Guest Lord Sward]

Once you've bought a used car, get it fully, independently serviced within 6 months/6k miles with OE spec filters and oils.  Its the only way to be sure the car is right.

[Vince70]

This is why I buy private lol..

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[xtriple]

Having been a car dealer and having worked for a few others (main usually) I would be forced to agree with the original sentiments - every deal the salesman has a constant eye on the end profit. Most car salesman don't give a shit about cars or you, just the 10% net deal they (used to) get! No point on spending hundreds/thousands on prep when that is coming straight out of your pocket, so, say it will be done and then forget it.

 

If pushed, wipe the oil filter with a rag and spray WD40 around and then wipe it down. I have always negotiated hard when buying from a dealer with the expectation that you are on your own from day one. Buying from dealers is a mugs game right? Not always: quite often private sellers have unrealistic expectations of their cars worth and dealer stock can be cheaper! Same with auctions: cheaper cars on forecourts than going through the ring if they look decent.

 

But, my latest dealer - Speedwell Honda - are bloody superb! They do EVERYTHING they say they will, do it quickly and for peanuts. I really want a new car (bored) but don't want to leave them as a dealer! Never felt like that about any car dealers before. Shocking.... Shame all they sell is Hondas.

[D Spares & Tyres]

Honda dealers are always great as they are one of the few manufacturers who can actually be proud of their products..

 

As for the previous comments about sealed bonnets etc, a friend of mine had an Audi diesel that had quite some thirst for oil but then the bonnet cable broke so he chopped a hole in the bonnet with a grinder and made a flap over the filler Lateral thinking, that