JimH Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 10 hours ago, sheffcortinacentre said: So same as now. It is interesting to idle away a few minutes with a classic car mag from the late 80s and measuringworth.com just to see how completely tonto things went back then. We aren't even close to it at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve79 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 11 hours ago, Steve79 said: All Vauxhall's are shit 😂 With the exception of the VXR8 but even thats a Holden. My original statement stands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remspoor Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 6 hours ago, Steve79 said: With the exception of the VXR8 but even thats a Holden. My original statement stands! And these. SteersWithThrottle and bunglebus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remspoor Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 AnÃbal Podadera. The AnÃbal Podadera is the result of the redesign of the IbizaRider, a project that Francisco Podadera carried out for Seat. This was was rejected by Volkswagen. Podadera then set up his own company and undertake its construction and marketing.       There were two versions, the F-90 with the 90 hp System Porsche naturally aspirated engine and the F-100 with the 105 hp electronic injection engine. After having built 83 units, the company was dissolved in 1992 due to financial problems.         Datsuncog, bunglebus, garethj and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR8 PL8 M8 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 12 hours ago, Steve79 said: With the exception of the VXR8 but even thats a Holden. My original statement stands! Full pedant mode - the VXR8 is an HSV Clubsport/GTS (depending on year), not a Holden. However, both of those models are based on the Holden Commodore... so I guess you could say it's a tarted up Holden badged as a Vauxhall... But back on topic, I've also realised that the only good modern Vauxhalls are actually not Vauxhalls... The aforementioned VXR8 The Monaro (the regular versions are Holdens, I'm not 100% sure if the VXRs are HSVs or not) The Maloo R8 LSA - HSV, obviously The VX220 - Lotus, as discussed Have I missed any? I'm not including the Lotus Carlton in this list as I'm of the opinion that older Vauxhalls are in fact not shit. However that may be because they've always been old cars to me (my cut-off for older/modern is the turn of the century) so maybe I'm just more forgiving of their faults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnoyingPentium Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, GR8 PL8 M8 said: However, both of those models are based on the Holden Commodore Which, at that time, was based on the Opel/Vauxhall Omega, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR8 PL8 M8 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, AnnoyingPentium said: Which, at that time, was based on the Opel/Vauxhall Omega, no? Nope, the VE Commodore was developed exclusively by Holden for the Australian market. The VF was basically a facelift of the VE, and then the ZB was an Insignia. I think you are correct for previous generations of the Commodore, a quick Google search said "since 1988" for Omega/Commodore relations, so I'm going with the second and third generations (which is a whole alphabet of sub-generations). For context, the VE/VF is the forth generation. AnnoyingPentium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnoyingPentium Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 5 minutes ago, GR8 PL8 M8 said: Nope, the VE Commodore was developed exclusively by Holden for the Australian market. The VF was basically a facelift of the VE, and then the ZB was an Insignia. I think you are correct for previous generations of the Commodore, a quick Google search said "since 1988" for Omega/Commodore relations, so I'm going with the second and third generations (which is a whole alphabet of sub-generations). For context, the VE/VF is the forth generation. I'm maybe thinking of the later 'VT' and newer Commodores, perhaps lol. GR8 PL8 M8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.E Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Daihatsu Mira Milano concept. For people who want to wear a top hat in their car? Dick Longbridge, Austat, 11001010 and 7 others 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Might suit a certain J R Mogg, Esq. inconsistant and Remspoor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnoyingPentium Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 2 hours ago, D.E said: Daihatsu Mira Milano concept. For people who want to wear a top hat in their car? Is that not for the Pope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 It looks like the illegitimate child of a Charade and a 2CV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horriblemercedes Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 The distinction "A Monaro is not a Vauxhall" is exactly the same as the distinction "a Mustang is not a Ford UK car" Vauxhall is just a brand name that at that time was used by GM for a particular market. It's like listing all the Ford products that are not built by Ford UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 14 hours ago, High Jetter said: Might suit a certain J R Mogg, Esq. 'I wouldn't be seen dead in one of those new fangled horseless carriages'. And it's The Right Honourable Jacob Rees Mogg to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 11 minutes ago, martc said: 'I wouldn't be seen dead in one of those new fangled horseless carriages' One would like to respectfully disagree; you were observed travelling in comfort earlier in your career:  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 5 minutes ago, Leyland Worldmaster said: One would like to respectfully disagree; you were observed travelling in comfort earlier in your career: Â I'd not been to one of Uncle Boris's parties and was not tired and emotional. It didn't happen, nothing to see here, fake news. And I can't say anything else until the report into my not travelling in a car is published. Crackers, Leyland Worldmaster, Remspoor and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austat Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 1967 Alfa Romeo Giulia Severtail by Carrozzeria Casale: Snake Charmer, Remspoor, SteersWithThrottle and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remspoor Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Peugeot 305 V6 Group B Rally car. PRV, V6- 2500cc- 250hp 2 x twin carburettors- RWD. Â Crackers, sheffcortinacentre, chaseracer and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarmonicCheeseburger Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 BMW ZBF-7er A 7 series concept. LINK GR8 PL8 M8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 On 03/06/2022 at 13:43, Remspoor said: Peugeot 305 V6 Group B Rally car. PRV, V6- 2500cc- 250hp 2 x twin carburettors- RWD. Â Phwoar. I have much want for that. Remspoor and Asimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR8 PL8 M8 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 On 06/06/2022 at 17:36, HarmonicCheeseburger said: BMW ZBF-7er A 7 series concept. That explains a lot actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Wartburg Melkus RS1000. 101 where made in Dresden between 1969 and 1979, it had a fibreglass body, a tuned Wartburg 353 engine, with 3 carburettors rather than the usual one and a Barkus 5 speed gearbox. It developed 68hp and could do 165 km/h. Very decadent. RayMK, High Jetter, Remspoor and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Bernardet-Remondini, built from 1935 to '39 it featured streamlined lines, front wheel drive and fully independent suspension. Three Speed, LightBulbFun, JeeExEll and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Yesterday I spotted a transporter loaded with these weird little vans that look like previous-gen Transits shrunk in the wash and had no idea what they were. Meet the DFSK EC35, a cheap and cheerful electric van from those Chinese folks who used to make the little trucks with the BMW-style grilles. Crackers, egg, martc and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2_craig Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Dead cert futureshite? I was yesterday years old when I learned that a current shape Focus saloon existed.  Aston Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnoyingPentium Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 5 minutes ago, mk2_craig said: Dead cert futureshite? I was yesterday years old when I learned that a current shape Focus saloon existed.  I quite like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 On 08/06/2022 at 19:46, martc said: Wartburg Melkus RS1000. 101 where made in Dresden between 1969 and 1979, it had a fibreglass body, a tuned Wartburg 353 engine, with 3 carburettors rather than the usual one and a Barkus 5 speed gearbox. It developed 68hp and could do 165 km/h. Very decadent. And despite its obscurity, @Datsuncogfound me one! martc, Remspoor, Datsuncog and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Speed Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 I went to a car show in Devon on Sunday and saw this XL1 diesel electric hybrid. Had no recollection of them before but a search suggests they are known to some Shiters here. 250 built. The owner of this one was very protective as it seems the interior can get very scratched because it is made of lightweight fragile material. So he was fending off kids who wanted to climb in. He said it does 150mpg. Leyland Worldmaster, garethj, LightBulbFun and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteersWithThrottle Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 On 6/6/2022 at 5:36 PM, HarmonicCheeseburger said: BMW ZBF-7er A 7 series concept. LINK Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston Martin Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Slightly odd. I saw a Belgian plated and turns out Euro-only. Â Facelift Hyundai John Matrix. Datsuncog, Yoss and egg 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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