The grumpy thread

[Spiny Norman]

If I see a car with ONO on for example, I've always avoided awkwardness by negotiating the price beforehand. I hate renegotiating in person...

 

Must say, when someone starts trying to haggle me down over the phone before they've even seen the thing I usually start thinking they're a timewaster and just hang up on them. Haggling face to face can be the best bit of a sale, if you can hold your nerve and keep your cool.

 

If you want rid of it badly enough, or if the buyer wants it enough, you'll find a way.

[sporty-shite]

Some good ideas re the fight to the deathCelica sale. However, I really can't be arsed washing blood off the drive.

 

Seriously, they want the car, but they're either traders (most likely) or just want it for nothing. An example of his annoying negotiations is that because it's a bit crusty on one back arch (which was photographed and shown in the ad) it needs a new rear quarter. His justification: I don't like my cars having bog in them. Fair enough, but how will he blend the C post? He was also going on about putting a Lexus V8 in it, which won't be my business if he buys the car, but also doesn't exactly fill me with joy.

 

I think this guy is well known in the old Japanese car scene, and has punted on plenty of 70s Japchod in the past. He knows the worth of the car, especially considering the only others currently for sale are around £3500 to £5000. I'm certainly not out to publicly slate him, but I told him I can't be bothered being messed around. He knows the score, it's £2000 with no MOT. That's £500 off the full asking, which is a decent discount. 

 

We'll see what happens........

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Fair enough SS. Is the guy from Manchester by any chance?

 

I don’t know how crusty the arch is but it sounds like you’re on the receiving end of some patter there, spesh if he’s talking about fitting a Lexus V8 as well, sounds like he’s full of ‘big ideas’.

 

I say fook him off and get a ticket sorted on it, then if his curiosity gets the better of him and he does come back in the future you have deleted one possible lever which can be used to barter you down. I bet you won’t need to spend £500 to get it tested and as for needing a new quarter the guy is on drugs. It looks flipping sweet on carandclassic, I’m surprised you haven’t had loads of Guinness slurpers ringing you up… saying that theyre all unemployed and stony broke aren’t they now.

[Cavcraft]

Must say, when someone starts trying to haggle me down over the phone before they've even seen the thing I usually start thinking they're a timewaster and just hang up on them. Haggling face to face can be the best bit of a sale, if you can hold your nerve and keep your cool.

 

If you want rid of it badly enough, or if the buyer wants it enough, you'll find a way.

 

Exactly.

If you let people bid you down on the phone (or by text or e-mail) then one of two things will happen: they will just 'forget' their offer to you and reply to the countless others they sent the same message to and play them off. Or they'll think that as you've come down X amount on the phone that you'll come down even more when they've turned up to pick holes in it.

Even I do the latter, i'll phone people up, sound them out, ask if the price is negotiable (without saying an actual figure) and if they instatntly say they'll take X amount off I assume they'll drop further when I've viewed it.

 

Also if you make the first offer yourself without seeing the car you're just shooting yourself in the foot/making life hard for yourself as if the seller agrees then you view the car and it's shit at the very least you're going to look a tit.

[SambaS]

I don't fit into the same bracket of car buyer as most, condition is rarely important to me due to the rarity of the cars I get.

 

My beige Polonez hit ebay at £800 at least two times, the first time I rang up and offered £500 over the phone, which was all I had. He declined saying it had cost him more to bring back from Poland, fair enough I tried.

 

The thing being though, I would have gone down handed my money over and took the car regardless of condition.

 

As it happened the 3rd or 4th time it hit the bay it started at 99p, or buy it now £500, I weighed up my chances of getting it cheaper in an auction but the possibility of someone else pressing buy it now was too great so I pressed BIN.

 

I paid a deposit so he knew I was for real, agreed a date went down with a trailer, paid and brought it home.

[wuvvum]

This forum is seriously pissing me off at the moment.  Not the posts, the forum itself.  Every fucking time I try to view a new page, it sits there taking up 100% of my CPU for anything up to 2 minutes.  From the messages I get on the security bar at the bottom of the screen I think it's something to do with a link to Facebook, but why the fuck does it make my computer rev its nads off for two minutes (2 minutes at 2.68GHz is 321,600,000,000 binary calculations by my reckoning), and how do I stop it doing it?  It's winding me up so much that I'm on the point of buggering off to browse Retro Rides instead.

[cobblers]

Two moans - I was sold a window recess to weld in my van 3 weeks ago. There was two I needed, This came up first so I said I would deffo buy it off the guy, but he was busy so it would take a few weeks before I could collect it.

 

I drove 240 miles last weekend to cut the final middle one out of a van which the seller said I could cut everything I wanted out for the same price. I just took the one that I hadn't accounted for because I'd already agreed to buy the other one.

 

Did an 80 mile round trip to finally pick the other recess up and got a phone call from the seller when I was 500 yards from his unit to tell he he couldn't find it. So tomorrow I have to go 240 miles again for something I could have picked up for nothing last week.

 

 

Secondly, my mate's missus is trying to set me up with girls which is fair enough, saves me trying myself.

Anyway if she described them on ebay she would get her account shut down and paypal would DEFFO offer a refund. Yes I've been single for a while, but it's partly because I'm not interested in obese single mums off council estates who are good pals with the most infamous petty crime family in the area. She was described as "Lovely 22 year old nurse" which TBH could really not have been any more misleading, I need to really be as cynical with these descriptions as I would a car on ebay or something.

[Vin]

The fuggin gnats are out. BASTARDS!!111!1!!!1!111!11!

[cobblers]

The fuggin gnats are out. BASTARDS!!111!1!!!1!111!11!

Deodorant and a lighter will knock them out of the air within about a 2 meter radius, 100x more effective than citronella candles or playing nickelback CDS etc.

[TimothyClaypole]

Secondly, my mate's missus is trying to set me up with girls which is fair enough, saves me trying myself.

Anyway if she described them on ebay she would get her account shut down and paypal would DEFFO offer a refund. Yes I've been single for a while, but it's partly because I'm not interested in obese single mums off council estates who are good pals with the most infamous petty crime family in the area. She was described as "Lovely 22 year old nurse" which TBH could really not have been any more misleading, I need to really be as cynical with these descriptions as I would a car on ebay or something.

 

Foreign import.

 

You'll get used to the left hand drive.

[Danblez]

This forum is seriously pissing me off at the moment. Not the posts, the forum itself. Every fucking time I try to view a new page, it sits there taking up 100% of my CPU for anything up to 2 minutes. From the messages I get on the security bar at the bottom of the screen I think it's something to do with a link to Facebook, but why the fuck does it make my computer rev its nads off for two minutes (2 minutes at 2.68GHz is 321,600,000,000 binary calculations by my reckoning), and how do I stop it doing it? It's winding me up so much that I'm on the point of buggering off to browse Retro Rides instead.

What browser are you using? If it is IE you only have yourself to blame!

[Cavcraft]

A real man would pictures up on here and let us decide for you.

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

L@@K NICE 22YR OLD NURSE *BARN FIND*

 

GOOD CONDITION FOR YEAR

 

 

 

[TimothyClaypole]

My monies on girl 2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Station]

I found this weird thing about mosquitoes, I'm a vegetarian and have not been bit by a mosquito since I became one. I've asked a few veggie mates this and they say they haven't either. The proof was walking through long grass with a meat eating mate in Spain and her legs got bitten up to bits and mine were untouched by the insectoid probiscii. I wonder why??? Less iron in blood? Considering I became deathly pale since I stopped eating meat.

[sporty-shite]

Fair enough SS. Is the guy from Manchester by any chance?

 

I don’t know how crusty the arch is but it sounds like you’re on the receiving end of some patter there, spesh if he’s talking about fitting a Lexus V8 as well, sounds like he’s full of ‘big ideas’.

 

I say fook him off and get a ticket sorted on it, then if his curiosity gets the better of him and he does come back in the future you have deleted one possible lever which can be used to barter you down. I bet you won’t need to spend £500 to get it tested and as for needing a new quarter the guy is on drugs. It looks flipping sweet on carandclassic, I’m surprised you haven’t had loads of Guinness slurpers ringing you up… saying that theyre all unemployed and stony broke aren’t they now.

Yes, Bolls, he's from Manchester. Said he looked at it first "because it was local". The rear quarter thing is definitely patter. There's a link to high def pictures of all the rust in the advert. He could, and would, have seen it all before he came.

 

As for the MOT, the only reason I haven't tested it is because I wanted it to go with a full 12 months, so I was going to do it once a deal had been done. I gave him the option of taking it without purely to make my life easier. You are right, there's no way it will take £500 to see it through a test.

 

And yes, I've had some enquiries from over the water, but they've turned to nothing, because they've "had to sell something first". 

[Lacquer Peel]

I found this weird thing about mosquitoes, I'm a vegetarian and have not been bit by a mosquito since I became one. I've asked a few veggie mates this and they say they haven't either. The proof was walking through long grass with a meat eating mate in Spain and her legs got bitten up to bits and mine were untouched by the insectoid probiscii. I wonder why??? Less iron in blood? Considering I became deathly pale since I stopped eating meat.

 

Dunno. I get bitten by mosquitoes and midges and clegs and birch bugs despite not eating meat.

Not deathly pale either.

[Spiny Norman]

I eat all sorts of dead animals but mozzies and midges don't bother me at all. They land on me, take a quick sniff or whatever it is they do, and fuck off to the next poor sucker.

WIN.   

[Des]

I found this weird thing about mosquitoes, I'm a vegetarian and have not been bit by a mosquito since I became one. I've asked a few veggie mates this and they say they haven't either. The proof was walking through long grass with a meat eating mate in Spain and her legs got bitten up to bits and mine were untouched by the insectoid probiscii. I wonder why??? Less iron in blood? Considering I became deathly pale since I stopped eating meat.

Could be the personal hygiene thing common to most veggies.

[MrDuke]

Mrs_Duke is a slightly-pale veggie, and gets bitten constantly. I'm a pudgy, unfit meat-eater and very rarely get bitten - however, when it does happen, I'm left with permanent scars regardless of whether I scratch or not.

[meggersdog]

Had to go to the Jaguar/ LandRover main dealers today for a "P" gasket for the Discovery.As I go to pull into the carpark there is an XF parked right across the entrance.Oh well just reverse back and park on the road.As I walk up to the Jag one of the LandRover mechanics is bringing a car round for a customer.I looked towards the empty Jag then back at the mechanic,shrugged and walked into the parts department.There is one chap in the parts dept. and as I open the door the mechanic toots his horn.Seeing the chap look directly at the Jag I ask if it's his car."yeah" he says with a stupid chuckle."well matey,you are blocking the entrance" and I did call him matey. "I didn't know where to park" he replies so pointing towards all the empty spaces with signs infront of them I asked "did you not see the customer parking signs ? not even the one ten feet infront of your car" "I won't be long" was his reply.There were atleast eight empty spaces with a sign infront of them saying customer parking yet this lazy selfish twat parks right across the entrance.If he'd pulled up right outside the parts dept. door then fair enough but even he had to walk a good 100 metres to get there and everybody else had to park on the road

[Station]

Oh, I know this dude.

 

'Aren't I amazing! I've got all these rare Toyotas stashed away LOL'

 

Persevere, Chris. Someone better than him will come along.

Is it the one that sells old Toyotas, including that 60's red one a few months ago? It was about £1k which I thought was cheap.

[Rover414]

Job Centre and their mandatory work bs. Looks like they want me to do 14 hour days for this crap. Funny how easy they can get you into these things but anything normal they "can't help you with" - "we don't have that on our system". Doesn't help that the "advisors" in our job centre are one wrong word away from a smack.

[autofive]

Job Centre and their mandatory work bs. Looks like they want me to do 14 hour days for this crap. Funny how easy they can get you into these things but anything normal they "can't help you with" - "we don't have that on our system". Doesn't help that the "advisors" in our job centre are one wrong word away from a smack.

 

the whole system is designed to piss you off to the point when you sign yourself off.

 

why not suddenly do your back in and visit the doctor to get a sick note?

[Junkman]

Mrs_Duke is a slightly-pale veggie, and gets bitten constantly. I'm a pudgy, unfit meat-eater and very rarely get bitten - however, when it does happen, I'm left with permanent scars regardless of whether I scratch or not.

 

Mrs_Junkman is a very pale veggie and also gets bitten constantly. I'm a member of the white, male, heterosexual, tax paying, meat eating minority that drinks, smokes, and watches stockcar races. I rarely get bitten, if I am I hardly notice, nor does it leave any marks, even if it is by a bee or wasp. Actually, being stung by a bee or wasp is less severe for me than being bitten by a mosquito.

[Lacquer Peel]

Well done.

[eddyramrod]

Predictable, I know, coming from me, but.... Tesco Fucking Broadband.  Nuff said really.  This is why you haven't seen me lately.  I simply don't have a connection at least 90% of the time.  They ain't getting a renewal out of me.  I could describe what I get from them as abysmal, disgusting, incompetent... but those words are much too kind.

[KruJoe]

Foreign import.

 

You'll get used to the left hand drive.

 

Mine came with RHD as standard

[warren t claim]

Women. I never fucking learn.

[maxpower]

@ sporty-shite, when he offered you £1200 you should have said " if you can get a car like that for £1200 then i will buy 2 off you"