The grumpy thread

[ashmicro]

I know (kinda) what you mean Mr. D. I used to work in a huge office complex, with about 1300 others, and I just couldn't stick it anymore. The bus I used to take to work did a kind of circuit between my house and the office, and one morning I just stayed on the bus and came back home. I am fortunate enough to have a job now with minimal social contact, and as few people understand what it is I do, I tend to be left to work on my own (I can do 60-80% of my job at home anyway).

 

So, as others have said, sack that current GP off, and take heed of Des' advice.

 

It will get better. Good luck Sir.

[Cheggers]

Fortunately (for me) I find it had to relate to what you're going through MrD, but can only admire the guts it must take to "come out" like that. I wish there was something I could say or do that would help you in some way, but I guess the fix lies in the same place as the problem. I'm not a regular contributor to the forum, but a long-time reader/ lurker and one of the most impressive things about this place is its ability to be unconditionally supportive & non-judgmental when it comes to the important stuff.

 

As has been said before, maybe the challenge of keeping an old nail on the road would be a welcome distraction. I also know that regular exercise can also lift the clouds a bit.

 

With you all the way

[Lord Sterling]

I can also kind of relate to what you are saying Mr D, I really understand whatyou ae sayig when you have knots just thinking about work. I would say you definiately need a second opinion, if not a thrid with regards to your troubles, not all GPs get it always right, so get out and see somone who understand you, sometimes it helps just to talk.

 

......you have to be some kind of a saint to not get seriously pissed off with the mouth breathing sub human trash that's polluted the country in recent years. I've wondered if I've grown impatient, intolerant or just bloody minded, but I haven't. Never in history has the patience of the right-minded been so tested. It's not possible to go more than an hour without something causing annoyance, it all builds up and gets you down, between loud twats inane jabbering into phones, ignorant morons getting in your way on roads, pavements, shops, everywhere. any and every dealing with any commercial concern, authorities, the police, the dvla, NHS, councils, chuggers, smelly dogbreath twunts who don't wash, etc. etc. it's like a never ending stream of insult your intelligence scamming corrupt thieving lying noisy stinking filthy bastards assulting your every sense from every direction.

 

I think all of this has made me rather intolerant of people over the past few years, seriously feel like I dont belong in this country anymore, I wonder what I am doing here sometimes. I guess theonly thing that keeps me going is knowing I have family abroad who are willing to help me out of my current position in life.

 

Mr Duke - I wish all best for you and hope you can get through this.

[Pete-M]

The grass is not greener on the other side. Sorry.

 

I've been on about moving to Czech for years now, but the language is a bloody killer and nobody in the rural bits speaks English. Lovely place, a bit similar to here in the 60's / 70's but with mobile phones and the interwebz. The rules and regulations though, fuxake, you think this country has problems? At least here it's easy to make money if you can be bothered getting off your fat arse and doing something.

 

As for the mouth-breathing gobshites that pollute and ruin the UK, I blame the do-gooder PC crowd from the '80s / '90s - they handed supreme power to those who least deserve it. Labour encouraged it for 13 years and now there's a whole generation who don't know any other way and who're immune to any kind of re-education. "Can't make me do that, I've got rights, what are you gonna do? I'll take you to court. I'm not doing that job, it's beneath me.".

 

Current government are doing the right thing and showing the little shits no mercy. Unfortunately the unions are fucking everything up again by wanting more for less.

 

My view? Go out there, keep your nose clean, take no prisoners, accept no excuses. Tell it like it is. If they don't like it, find someone who does.

[ashmicro]

I'd agree with that, Pete. Somehow, nothing is anyone's fault anymore. I'm not that old , but when I was a wayne we respected our teachers and the police. If I'd got a rap on the knucles with a ruler at school, that was fuck all compared to what I'd have got when I got home. It concentrates the mind at an early age. One local kid of 14 who was a right little shit was detained by soldiers from the UDR, and collected by the police and taken home. His folks didn't give a shit, but he never got up to his antics ever again. Years later I joined the same regiment, and I found out that the squaddies had told him they had orders to EAT errant teenagers.

 

A bit brutal perhaps, and legally a grey area* but they didn't touch him and it worked.

 

My family in NZ have been asking me for years to come and work in their family-owned large property firm to head their IT Dept (nepotism, much?) but while my IT skills are global, my fiancee's, as a solicitor, are not wholly transferrable.

 

 

 

*UDR weren't technically Army, legally speaking, but North Irish Militia. For example we could patrol alone, but guys from "over the water" had to have the peelers with them.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

I've been on about moving to Czech for years now, but the language is a bloody killer and nobody in the rural bits speaks English.

 

Come on, if someone who can't remove a stuck wheelnut is able to fluently speak three languages and more or less communicate in a fourth, it can't be THAT hard learning one. Look at how many people are learning Mandarin FFS. Take 3-4 months off to do some intensive classes and you'll have 90% of your communication needs covered.

[Pete-M]

Take 3-4 months off to do some intensive classes and you'll have 90% of your communication needs covered.

 

I can do the very basics. I cannot afford to take three or four months off to learn the bloody lingo.... and there's the rub.

[John F]

...and more or less communicate in a fourth...

 

Come on, Luxo... your English isn't that bad

 

What languages do you speak then?

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

...and more or less communicate in a fourth...

 

Come on, Luxo... your English isn't that bad

 

What languages do you speak then?

 

I can speak Greek, English and Spanish properly...Italian not so well.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Take 3-4 months off to do some intensive classes and you'll have 90% of your communication needs covered.

 

I can do the very basics. I cannot afford to take three or four months off to learn the bloody lingo.... and there's the rub.

 

I guess evening classes over a couple of years would still work- that's how I learnt Italian (and German, but I don't remember much of that as I was in primary school and, unfortunately, didn't particularly enjoy learning it). Though I do appreciate that it won't be easy to find a place doing Czech evening classes- you'd probably require a private tutor.

[John F]

 

Come on, Luxo... your English isn't that bad

 

What languages do you speak then?

 

I can speak Greek, English and Spanish properly...Italian not so well.

 

Different ones to me then... I've lived in Germany & France and speak those languages fluently, can get by in Norwegian & Dutch, have the basics of Spanish and Russian and a smattering of words in a few other languages.

[MrDuke]

Thanks for the messages of support guys I'm not one to unburden myself like that on teh internetz as a rule, but last night even the Vodka wasn't working

I will be getting a new GP soon as I'm moving house, but in the grand scheme of things I'll still be waiting a long, long time for the right kind of help (or to find out that I officially can't be helped). I wish I could blame it all on the wrong kind of job, or the wrong drugs, whatever, but I've been sliding downhill since my teens so there's no easy cure. I think I've just always been able to wrestle it under control, up until now.

I'd actually love to have a driving job, as for some reason people in cars don't bother me like people standing in front of me do. There's just no work to be had here - all transport jobs need experience, etc etc. The reason I stuck with a less-than-perfect job for years was that I was lucky enough to have a permanent public-sector contract, and didn't want to lose the security - that might become a moot point soon though.

The whole 'society' thing doesn't help, I agree. I do count myself lucky to be living in a fairly remote corner of the country, where people still have proper communities and behave with something approaching decency, most of the time. If I still lived 'back home' in Herts, I'd probably be in a secure psych unit by now

 

Oh, and speaking of Dafs, it turns out that the house we're moving to has a couple of minty 33s at the end of the road. That could become a problem at some point Pics will follow at some point, fear not.

[Amazo]

My view? Go out there, keep your nose clean, take no prisoners, accept no excuses. Tell it like it is. If they don't like it, find someone who does.

Word. I've been on that train of thought the last few years, it works for me. i would also add to that: use 'the system' to your advantage; if someone does wrong by you, it can fuck people up a lot better than a baseball bat ever could.

[ashmicro]

People in Northern Ireland bleating about the cost of car insurance - STOP YOUR FUCKING SPURIOUS CLAIMS, THEN. The personal injury industry here is crazy. People in Northern Ireland cannot stay on their feet for a start, and it's nowt to do with us Paddys having a fondness for strong drink. The amount of people who "fall over broken paving" is a disgrace. The pavements here are in good nick. This has spread to alleged RTA injuries too, with every fucker and his dog claiming for whiplash. Las year, I was a passenger in a new model Mondeo that got smacked up the ARRSE hard enough to write it off instantly, there were bits of it all over the road. The driver and I were checked out, given a clean bill of health and that was that. Honestly, this bloody country is like a massive version of Shameless.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

I think that, for some reason (something historical related to the Troubles? Different regulatory mechanisms from GB?), a lot of British insurers don't bother with offering motor insurance for NI residents, which results in less competition therefore even higher premia than if you only accounted for the volume/value of claims.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

In other news, I am quite grumpy because I still haven't heard from that place in London where I had an interview, despite their assurances that they'd get in touch by yesterday morning. I am tempted to ring them and swear at them- how hard would it be to just call me and say I didn't get it, or they need a bit more time to decide or whatever. I'm hoping they chose someone else who is in the process of thinking better of it (the pay is less than ideal) and they'll call me soon saying I got it as a runner up. FAT CHANCE. Plus, the only other interview I seem to have gotten is a 'telephone assessment'. With an insurance company. In Darlington. I hope I will manage to avoid killing myself.

[ashmicro]

I think that, for some reason (something historical related to the Troubles? Different regulatory mechanisms from GB?), a lot of British insurers don't bother with offering motor insurance for NI residents, which results in less competition therefore even higher premia than if you only accounted for the volume/value of claims.

 

 

I'd like to believe that too, but a lot of people here are a thieving, dishonest and amoral shower of shit.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

I think that, for some reason (something historical related to the Troubles? Different regulatory mechanisms from GB?), a lot of British insurers don't bother with offering motor insurance for NI residents, which results in less competition therefore even higher premia than if you only accounted for the volume/value of claims.

 

 

I'd like to believe that too, but a lot of people here are a thieving, dishonest and amoral shower of shit.

 

I think you will find that to also be the case throughout most of the UK, if not most of the entire bloody planet.

[Pete-M]

People in Northern Ireland bleating about the cost of car insurance - STOP YOUR FUCKING SPURIOUS CLAIMS, THEN.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again.. Whiplash claims are actively encouraged by insurance companies. There are so many 'bungs' in the industry it beggars belief. In my job I come into contact with one hell of a lot of people who're claiming for whiplash when in truth there's absolutely fuck all wrong with them other than they're skint and someone has bent their car a bit.

 

One claim I know of is a perfect example:

 

Newish Ford Galaxy minicab with six passengers clipped by a truck. Galaxy wasn't that old but the damage was to the rear 1/4 which meant it wasn't going to be getting fixed. Cabbie chucked in a whippy claim as did his six passengers - they're encouraged to by claims companies offering them £300 on acceptance of their claim. Cabbie is happy to chuck claim in as the claims company pays him to do so, and he doesn't have to fork out £500 or so for an insurance excess. Cab company owner is happy cabbie has claimed as cabbie gets a brand new replacement vehicle so the fleet looks better, and cab company owner gets a few hundred quid bung from claims company. Galaxy would cost about £2500 to fix, but as it's five years old and the local authority won't allow anything over six years old as a cab so cabbie and claims company, together with insurance assessors (paid for by claims company solicitors) get the thing written off.

 

So, so far paid out £2100 in bungs to cabbie and passengers and £500 to cab company. Replacement seven seater is £180ish a day (+vat) plus £200 delivery, plus £300ish to plate it as a cab. Insurance assessor will have had a couple of hundred quid for his ten minutes work. There's also the doctors fees for the 'specialist' who tells the cabbie what to say if asked and does a quick 5 min examination, and the same again for the six passengers.

 

Galaxy gets written off. Cabbie gets £7000 for a replacement.

Cabbie is in hire vehicle for two months - £13000 + £200 collection fee. (Rate set by insurance company)

Cabbie and six passengers get £2200 whiplash each. £15400.

Loss of earnings for cabbie and three passengers, lets say £1000 each to be generous. £4000.

 

The claim came to just over £100,000 in total. Cabbie got just over £10k. Passengers saw £15k. The rest is amongst claims companies, replacement vehicle companies and solicitors.

 

Yet people still chuck in 'whippy' claims left right and centre as they don't see that they're only getting the tip of the iceberg compared to what is actually being paid out. Then they whine like buggery about the cost of insurance the next year.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Pete, they are doing the right thing by making that whippy claim. See "tragedy of the commons".

 

It's up to the legal system to put these things right.

[trigger]

I got this email from the VOBA (Vauxhall Opel Bedford club) yesterday

 

Hi trigger, We are looking for cars to represent us at this years Classic Car Show at the Birmingham NEC Indoor Arena. The show is a full weekend (Thursday - Sunday) and most importantly is all indoor....so no weather excuses!!

 

As a thank you for showing your car you will receive free entry into the show which will give you access to both the Classic Car Show and also the Top Gear MPH Show. For more information and to register your interest please visit the thread below http://www.justopelvauxhall.com/showthr ... ember-2011

 

Thanks The JOV Events Team

 

ARGH!, Now after reading that I'm having serious mixed feelings about selling the Kadett now!, On one hand I have a very rare car which is pretty much perfect apart from the light rust on the wings which at the moment has costs me sod all and makes me grin everytime i use it but on the other hand I really want something more practical which i can use more often, which is easier for parts and I can possibly use for going on holiday in without going deaf, feeling knackered and having a bad back.

 

With 170 watchers on the ebay advert now and being up to £1700 (the reserve is £3000) there's certainly interest out there for it, but what do i do??!! I wish i had room and the money to keep it and buy something else.

[Station]

Yet people still chuck in 'whippy' claims left right and centre as they don't see that they're only getting the tip of the iceberg compared to what is actually being paid out. Then they whine like buggery about the cost of insurance the next year.

 

I got offered 300 quid to put a claim in, I'm not pure as snow, but I thought that was really shitty and dishonest. The bloke said just claim you've got a sore neck, even though I hadn't. 300 quid is nice, but it felt wierd and the way he tried to get me in on his scam by bullshitting, I just refused straight away, to his surprise.

This appeals to 99% lowest common denominator type people.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Yet people still chuck in 'whippy' claims left right and centre as they don't see that they're only getting the tip of the iceberg compared to what is actually being paid out. Then they whine like buggery about the cost of insurance the next year.

 

I got offered 300 quid to put a claim in, I'm not pure as snow, but I thought that was really shitty and dishonest. The bloke said just claim you've got a sore neck, even though I hadn't. 300 quid is nice, but it felt wierd and the way he tried to get me in on his scam by bullshitting, I just refused straight away, to his surprise.

This appeals to 99% lowest common denominator type people.

 

That sounds like a criminal offense on his part. How about reporting him, even if it's just your word against his (or, as someone less scrupulous than myself may say, you can always claim that your best mate listened to it on t' speakerphone when the call was made).

[ashmicro]

^^ and that sort of thing, dear friends, is why Mrs Ash, who is a solicitor, works for the Crown Prosecution Service. She could make twice her £60k salary in private practice, but I doubt she'd be able to sleep at night.

 

My earlier point was that while I'm no whiter than white type person, I actually was grievously injured in a motorcycle-meets-taxi accident a lot of years ago. Put it this way, if it hadn't been for the Police, I'd have bled to death. Due to dishonest claimants, and their representatives bunging up the system, the insurers concerned in my case were really slow to settle. I required specialist treatment which was best done privately. I'm lucky my parents saved up their money and had a few quid put by in the meantime.

[Cavcraft]

Just to add to the snowball effect of the claims merry-go-round the people whose insurance has gone up due to others spurious claims are themselves more tempted to claim if they're in an accident themselves. Making me grumpy is the fact it seems not a single person in Lincolnshire knows how to drive properly or how to stick to speed limits.

[The Moog]

I have been offered some right shite including £600 Drizzler Multipa this week but missus has put her foot down. I need to get rid of all my cars. Apparently we are saving for something that may or may not happen. This from the person who said I could have a hobby playing with cars earlier on in the year. Women

[Polystratus]

Just to add to the snowball effect of the claims merry-go-round the people whose insurance has gone up due to others spurious claims are themselves more tempted to claim if they're in an accident themselves. Making me grumpy is the fact it seems not a single person in Lincolnshire knows how to drive properly or how to stick to speed limits.

 

Welcome to Lincolnshire! No suprise that the county got a high accident rate - you drive at 60 and some just pass you looking like your doing 20mph, A17 is bad for it even though they put 50mph on certain sections.

[cobblers]

There's the other side of this - Decent people are ashamed to claim because of scumbags stigmatising it by making whiplash claims almost obligatory.

 

Someone run up the back of my mum when she was sat waiting at a busy roundabout a few months ago. Not a bad knock really, it only cracked the bumper and tweaked the exhaust on the MX5. The woman who ran into her wanted to deal outside insurance (because she had done the same to someone 2 weeks prior and didn't want two claims on her "record" )

 

My mum had some fairly serious brain/neck surgery about a year ago, which she had almost recovered from.

This fairly minor hit (I've done ten times worse on track loads of times and laughed it off) has set her back massively, to the point where she should really go and have brain surgery again, but she daren't. She's also probably going to lose her front teeth (she chomped down when hit, and the dentist says it's buggered the root up and they'll probably fall out in a few months)

 

I had to beg her to insist on claiming on the other womans insurance - Despite her going direct to hospital and having several CT scans which confirm that it's knocked her brain down the back of her neck again. She's had to have more time off work on sick (after having months off just a year ago for her brain op) because she can't feel her hands and her neck hurts terribly.

[ashmicro]

^^ This is different. ALways call the police mate.

[dollywobbler]

Aye. You've got three years to get a personal injury claim sorted, so more than enough time for her to change her mind.