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  On 12/03/2019 at 15:25, Junkman said:

No word has ever caused serious harm.

Fire!?

 

Sorry, I’ll get my coat

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Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 16:00, iainrcz said:

Even did a drift in the carpark for two old people, they loved it.

 

#coolkids

Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 16:00, robinmasters said:

 

 

More pendantry; that's four words.

If you took the time to read it you would see that Junkman shortened the original.

Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 13:55, SierraMikeHotel said:

Not intended as a flame, and it's possible I've misunderstood you, but I think you are incorrect.

 

We have never had freedom of speech in the UK. You have never been allowed to defame others. Public Order offences have existed for a very long time.

 

More recently, laws around certain protected characteristics have come in, and been strengthened over time, because we have finally realised that those people need extra protection from the law because they are more vulnerable. You are not allowed to say something racist, or derogatory to disabled people, not because of "thought police" but because those words cause serious harm.

 

I wholeheartedly agree with DW and Chaseracer, free speech does carry an enormous responsibility.

 

 

It is not absolute, but it does exist. The law of defamation sets a high bar with strong defences. So to does Article 10 of the ECHR. The law does set limits as I also believe it should, but these are far below that imposed by Autoshite. The moderators here elect to go further than they have to. The harm held in words varies. At all but the extremes, where this is determined is arbitary.

 

Time for my coat, I think.

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Posted

No no, it's an interesting topic and as you've pointed out there are differing laws that have to be balanced against each other. My point was just that you can't say what you like with freedom from the consequences.

Posted

The moderators here SHOULD go further than the law requires. Because forum rule number 1 is do not be a cun, or something along those lines

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Posted

"freedom of speech" should mean the ability to say whatever you like but to also accept there are consequences.

 

Internet "freedom of speech" seems to mean the ability to say whatever you like and to never experience any consequences whatsoever.

 

The former is reasonable, the latter is cuntery.

Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 16:06, The Moog said:

#coolkids

Fast and T' Furious - South Yorkshire drift.

 

Sent from my VFD 710 using Tapatalk

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Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 16:21, vulgalour said:

 

Internet "freedom of speech" seems to mean the ability to say whatever you like and to never experience any consequences whatsoever.

 

The former is reasonable, the latter is cuntery.

 

Amen.

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Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 12:47, Junkman said:

Since when does the UK have a culture?

 

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Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 17:17, The Moog said:

Game set and I think you will find.. match

 

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Pull the other one, it's got bells on.  Etc.

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Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 17:17, The Moog said:

Game set and I think you will find.. match

 

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I think you will find those are Austrians....

Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 17:20, mercrocker said:

I think you will find those are Austrians....

Yup, can confirm thats Junkman.

Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 09:51, cpjitservices said:

Ian,

 

I signed up to the other side just to see what it was like, as soon as I saw the Hubnut/Ian bashing I left, the name calling and general playground behaviour is appalling - those people need to take a long hard look in the mirror. The atmosphere over there absolutely stinks!!!

 

Stay around here, I know I will be and I'll be in my forum too.

 

Your content brings much more than than what those people could ever offer.

 

 

Stick around.

 

Those fuckers *sorry* can go swivel.

 

 

 

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Oh the irony. Good luck with your forum.

 

All I get from this is “yeah yeah those nasty potty mouths. What a bunch of fuckers”

 

At least it is grumpy.

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Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 07:31, dollywobbler said:

I think some people on the dark side need to get over themselves and stop trolling me. To think I was on some moral crusade just to protect my channel is ludicrous. If I objected about the tone of posts, it was only because I didn't agree with the tone of the post. The way things are going at the moment, I'm minded to join the exodus.

 

Bellends all; just ignore them. I've certainly got a few more names to go on my list.

Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 16:40, Cavcraft said:

Amen.

Oi! No religion! “So be it” would be more appropriate for God’s sake!!

Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 12:47, Junkman said:

Since when does the UK have a culture?

 

That comment is unworthy of you, seriously.

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Posted

My grump is personal spats taking over the grumpy thread! Please stop it or I will have to call for MORE moderation to split them out. There are already threads for this subject, can we have the grumpy thread left for grumps rather than moans.

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Posted

Please tell me you are kidding! I get the humor in the second sentence, but the last one sounds a bit serious

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________________________

 

 

 

 

There, I drew a line under it.  Now, on with the inconsequential grumps, please.

Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 19:08, vulgalour said:

________________________

 

 

 

 

There, I drew a line under it.  Now, on with the inconsequential grumps, please.

 

Here's one for you:

 

I just bought a light up 'Hello' (not the magazine) sign, just because it's ace. I told the missus it was 99p and going in the shed, but it was a tenner and I'm going to hide it somewhere. Two of the bulbs don't work. 

 

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Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 19:05, ChinaTom said:

Please tell me you are kidding! I get the humor in the second sentence, but the last one sounds a bit serious

 

Really? What is a grump but a moan. I do not like it when strangers on the internet get personal, so thought I would post a bit of humour. Perhaps it was too subtle, will try harder to be more obviously humourous in future.

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Posted

I laughed, but suddenly felt I shouldn't have! Laughing again now. On the Grumpy thread - which is what its for.

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Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 12:36, Magnificent Rustbucket said:

I don't enjoy joining these types of discussions but this comment is so extreme I couldn't let it pass unchallenged. It is quite extraordinarily authoritarian and controlling. To anyone who places value in liberty, free thought and free expression it is difficult to hear. The culture of the UK, as in all countries is cyclical. Sadly we are entering a phase of increasing puritanism, only this time not rooted in religion, but manifested in a concerted attempt to heal the world of its 'ugly thoughts'. In the process, everything the self-appointed moral arbiter decrees as offensive is extinguished. I am deeply unhappy about this in life and on Autoshite: I can see it leads nowhere good.

 

FWIW, I don't hold you responsible for the manifestation of this new authoritarianism and controlling behaviour in Autoshite's moderation. I can see you agree with it, but I don't believe you are the prime mover behind it. I look elsewhere for that.

 

No doubt I will be flamed for this comment and I am fully expecting to be laughed at by people who have not understood me. But I feel it has to be said.

This constant need for the noiser AS detractors to try and claim some kind of moral high ground is getting very tiresome.

Will you please just get over yourselves FFS.

Posted

DMV.

 

 

If anybody has seen the animation "Zootopia", the DMV office in the movie was staffed solely by sloths. This was an accurate observation.

 

I feel like I may have possibly died of old age.

 

Now I know why everybody looks upset and grumpy on their driver's license.

 

 

Phil

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Posted
  On 12/03/2019 at 19:21, Cavcraft said:

Here's one for you:

 

I just bought a light up 'Hello' (not the magazine) sign, just because it's ace. I told the missus it was 99p and going in the shed, but it was a tenner and I'm going to hide it somewhere. Two of the bulbs don't work.

 

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For my shed, needs the o! Removing.

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