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22,250 · February 14

My eldest got his PSV licence last week.

I am happy for him but worry how long he will last driving a bus for a living.

11,502 · February 14

I just tripped over these:

https://www.pressednumberplates.co.uk/collections/show-plates/products/serck-font-acrylic-number-plate-standard-520mm-x-111mm-copy

14,904 · February 14

6 hours ago, grogee said:

I fitted these to my Mondeo.

I'm sure you would all agree that 'Beamfly' has a proud history of LED manufacturing and is a name to be trusted.

They have a little fan on the back so I'm debating whether to drill some vent holes in the plastic lid that sits on the back of the headlamp assembly.

So far, would strongly recommend. Excellent penetration and I'm no longer left guessing where the road goes when a modern comes towards me.

i like there guess the shite picture,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

39,911 · February 14

7 hours ago, grogee said:

I fitted these to my Mondeo.

I'm sure you would all agree that 'Beamfly' has a proud history of LED manufacturing and is a name to be trusted.

They have a little fan on the back so I'm debating whether to drill some vent holes in the plastic lid that sits on the back of the headlamp assembly.

So far, would strongly recommend. Excellent penetration and I'm no longer left guessing where the road goes when a modern comes towards me.

Are they MOT legal?

2,341 · February 14

Up to my elbows in Alison's engine bay to change her knackered Expansion Tank.

I didn't realise that Ginger Mk2 is a Master VAG Tech. Once he'd checked my work, a test drive revealed no leaks.

Apart from traces of G12 where I hadn't quite tightened the cap...

22,721 · February 14

1 hour ago, Six-cylinder said:

Are they MOT legal?

I don't know how Mr MoT would know...? The headlights are externally the same... So is the dipping mechanism (a little solenoid connected to a flap). All of it is as Ford intended, apart from the light source.

So unless they have some way of measuring colour temperature, I don't know how they'd know?

22,721 · February 14

1 hour ago, Leyland Worldmaster said:

Up to my elbows in Alison's engine bay to change her knackered Expansion Tank.

I didn't realise that Ginger Mk2 is a Master VAG Tech. Once he'd checked my work, a test drive revealed no leaks.

Apart from traces of G12 where I hadn't quite tightened the cap...

Don't let him lick it... I'm sure I don't need to tell you it's fatal for them.

2,341 · February 14

10 minutes ago, grogee said:

Don't let him lick it... I'm sure I don't need to tell you it's fatal for them.

He stayed well away from it and the area was thoroughly hosed down with loads of water. Can't risk injury to any Stakeholders!

Even I don't fuck about with the stuff- always wear gloves when handling this stuff. Haven't forgotten my COSHH training, innit!

3,608 · February 15

9 hours ago, grogee said:

So unless they have some way of measuring colour temperature, I don't know how they'd know?

The beam pattern may not be correct when tested.

Mot guidlines link

Within section 4.1.4. Compliance with requirements:

"Existing halogen headlamp units on vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1986 must not be converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp for light source and lamp not compatible."

10,641 · February 15

13 minutes ago, Snake Charmer said:

The beam pattern may not be correct when tested.

Mot guidlines link

Within section 4.1.4. Compliance with requirements:

"Existing halogen headlamp units on vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1986 must not be converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp for light source and lamp not compatible."

Generally you can get away with aftermarket HID’s and LED’s in a halogen projector headlamp, if you are fitting either to standard non-projector halogens then you are an idiot!.

3,608 · February 15

12 hours ago, stuboy said:

i like there guess the shite picture,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Beam Fly magically to rear of car.

22,721 · February 15

36 minutes ago, Snake Charmer said:

The beam pattern may not be correct when tested.

Mot guidlines link

Within section 4.1.4. Compliance with requirements:

"Existing halogen headlamp units on vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1986 must not be converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp for light source and lamp not compatible."

It was xenon (D1S) bulb, now LED

41,765 · February 15

19 hours ago, grogee said:

I fitted these to my Mondeo.

I'm sure you would all agree that 'Beamfly' has a proud history of LED manufacturing and is a name to be trusted.

They have a little fan on the back so I'm debating whether to drill some vent holes in the plastic lid that sits on the back of the headlamp assembly.

So far, would strongly recommend. Excellent penetration and I'm no longer left guessing where the road goes when a modern comes towards me.

For that money, why not just replace it with a set of decent branded (Osram or Philips) bulbs?

E.g. quick search find this singular and iirc double pack of standard bulbs isn't much more expensive https://amzn.eu/d/08sG3kXF

I'd wager the bulbs in the car had original to the car and just faded from age. That's what Xenon tend to do rather than just fail.

Or someone put some cheap shite in and they've faded much quicker because poor quality.

I suspect those LED replacements will dim pretty quickly from excess heat. High output LED bulbs need specific light fixture design to get the heat out of them. Stuff like our Octavia where it has massive great big heatsinks on the back of the light clusters.

10,641 · February 15

53 minutes ago, grogee said:

It was xenon (D1S) bulb, now LED

Not quite sure why Stu has done that considering the proper bulbs are not that expensive.

16,218 · February 15

I’d planned to wash the car today as it’s been used a van for the last few weeks sorting Mrs JJ’s salon. Of course it had to piss down the turn to snow on the 1 free day I have. Wasn’t letting it stop me though!

Couldn’t do the inside because electric but managed to get the outside looking more presentable.

Yes I need to sort the extremely common headlight condensation issue…

10,641 · February 15

Looks great, the only real fix to the condensation issue is new headlights unless you want to spend hours and hours stripping the old ones down, it’s a twat of a job!

39,911 · February 15

14 hours ago, grogee said:

I don't know how Mr MoT would know...? The headlights are externally the same... So is the dipping mechanism (a little solenoid connected to a flap). All of it is as Ford intended, apart from the light source.

So unless they have some way of measuring colour temperature, I don't know how they'd know?

I have been looking for legal LED replacement bulbs. I am told the way the MOT testers fail them is instead of the dip beam showing a sharp cut off on the road LEDs give a graduated edge to the dip beam patten.

22,721 · February 15

4 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

I have been looking for legal LED replacement bulbs. I am told the way the MOT testers fail them is instead of the dip beam showing a sharp cut off on the road LEDs give a graduated edge to the dip beam patten.

Mebbe but as I say there's a physical flap that cuts the beam. When shone on my garage door the cutoff is indistinguishable from xenon light source. The only difference is the light is whiter.

If MoT fails I'll swap back to xenons, 10 min job.

@SiC@SiC I tried new Halfords xenon bulb; no difference . OK maybe not Osram but also not Chinese shite.

I did have great success changing xenons on my Saab but it made fuck all difference on Mondeo.

Also tried re-silvering the reflectors.

If LED output degrades I will ask for money back. Should be no issue with returns via Amazon.

30,521 · February 15

Bought a small lot of Kadett bits and this mirror was included, but I don't think this has any relation to 1980s Opels. It's a "Monaco Grand Prix". Aftermarket brand I presume?

39,911 · February 15

1 hour ago, grogee said:

Mebbe but as I say there's a physical flap that cuts the beam. When shone on my garage door the cutoff is indistinguishable from xenon light source. The only difference is the light is whiter.

If MoT fails I'll swap back to xenons, 10 min job.

@SiC@SiC I tried new Halfords xenon bulb; no difference . OK maybe not Osram but also not Chinese shite.

I did have great success changing xenons on my Saab but it made fuck all difference on Mondeo.

Also tried re-silvering the reflectors.

If LED output degrades I will ask for money back. Should be no issue with returns via Amazon.

My Fiat Seicento is simply a H4 bulb with no shutter.

I can also change the bulb without any great drama but would be happy if it was legal to start with.

4,344 · February 15

They do spectacular brightness and quality Xenon-HID compatible LEDbulbs nowadays. A mate retrofitted his F02 7 series, and I have them in 156 and 159. Cooler, lower power usage, no need for (expensive) OEM ballasts prone to failure. 11/10, would recommend.

23,607 · February 15

19 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

My Fiat Seicento is simply a H4 bulb with no shutter.

I can also change the bulb without any great drama but would be happy if it was legal to start with.

if you want to stay Legal then a Proper Halogen H4 is your only option, i'd say just chuck a set of non-blue, Osram Nightbreaker's in there

4,344 · February 15

2 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

if you want to stay Legal then a Proper Halogen H4 is your only option, i'd say just chuck a set of non-blue, Osram Nightbreaker's in there

You’re probably the right person to ask - why do Osram Nightbreakers last so short compared do normal bulbs?

23,607 · February 15

1 minute ago, IronStar said:

You’re probably the right person to ask - why do Osram Nightbreakers last so short compared do normal bulbs?

because they basically are driven very hard right at the edge of the allowable H4 spec, if you where to messure their actual wattage at you will find they are not likely to be 55W/60W!

i'd recommend reading the posts I made in these threads for the technical details

https://autoshite.com/topic/56403-legal-brighter-headlight-bulbs-h4/page/2/#findComment-2953609

https://autoshite.com/topic/65598-what-upgrade-headlight-bulbs/#findComment-3373008

(I do have a set of Osram Nightbreakers and a set of Regular Osram H4 bulbs which I bough both at the same time for the explicit purpose of giving a technical writeup/demonstration with, but I still need to get a Round-Tuit!)

3,180 · February 15

1 hour ago, D.E said:

Bought a small lot of Kadett bits and this mirror was included, but I don't think this has any relation to 1980s Opels. It's a "Monaco Grand Prix". Aftermarket brand I presume?

"Period part"

(once a month)

They are aftermarket 60s and 70s go-faster accessory.

I had a pair on a Sunbeam Stiletto that I removed with the aid of an unseen car park barrier ...

22,721 · February 15

29 minutes ago, IronStar said:

They do spectacular brightness and quality Xenon-HID compatible LEDbulbs nowadays. A mate retrofitted his F02 7 series, and I have them in 156 and 159. Cooler, lower power usage, no need for (expensive) OEM ballasts prone to failure. 11/10, would recommend.

I think this is the part that nobody (except Ironstar) is understanding on this thread.

It is a xenon bulb replacement, not a halogen bulb replacement.

I am fully behind stopping twats fitting LED floodlights to their Fiat Puntos.

But when the light source is a) shuttered for dip beam and b) level controlled via suspension ride height sensors, I don't see the problem in using a more modern light source.

As it is, the headlamp arms race is now at the stage of laser/LED with active beam pattern, so in my view I am just making sure I can see the road ahead when modernz approach me with their solar flares activated.

3,986 · February 15

1 hour ago, D.E said:

Bought a small lot of Kadett bits and this mirror was included, but I don't think this has any relation to 1980s Opels. It's a "Monaco Grand Prix". Aftermarket brand I presume?

I'd be checking the usual sales sites, there's quite a market for some retro mirrors

4,344 · February 15

1 hour ago, LightBulbFun said:

because they basically are driven very hard right at the edge of the allowable H4 spec, if you where to messure their actual wattage at you will find they are not likely to be 55W/60W!

i'd recommend reading the posts I made in these threads for the technical details

https://autoshite.com/topic/56403-legal-brighter-headlight-bulbs-h4/page/2/#findComment-2953609

https://autoshite.com/topic/65598-what-upgrade-headlight-bulbs/#findComment-3373008

(I do have a set of Osram Nightbreakers and a set of Regular Osram H4 bulbs which I bough both at the same time for the explicit purpose of giving a technical writeup/demonstration with, but I still need to get a Round-Tuit!)

Thanks LBF! Reading this, I understand that you could, in theory, get bulbs that are H4 connector and shape, but technically not H4 as they are out of spec IE running too much power? Is such thing available, and if yes where would one be able to buy such a bulb for…erm…eh…experimental purposes?

23,607 · February 15

7 minutes ago, IronStar said:

Thanks LBF! Reading this, I understand that you could, in theory, get bulbs that are H4 connector and shape, but technically not H4 as they are out of spec IE running too much power? Is such thing available, and if yea where would one be able to buy such a bulb for…erm…eh…experimental purposes?

I take no responsibility if you melt your modern plastic head lamp housings!

https://www.osram.com/ecat/SUPER BRIGHT PREMIUM - SUPER BRIGHT-Halogen headlight lamps-Car lighting-Automotive/com/en/GPS01_1090070/ZMP_1066359/

26,026 · February 15

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