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[Guest Hooli]

  On 01/01/2018 at 10:13, Heritage motor centre said:

The other aspect is the damage to the building. Reports of the fire brigade being wary of the building collapsing. I'm unsure of how it all slots together but cars+ building damage stands to be quite a bit on top of the notional £21m

 

That amount of burning cars could melt the rebar within the concrete I'd have thought.

[dollywobbler]

Finished! For now. Garage tidy up means I can actually walk all the way around the Invacar!

 

I still need more shelving, more hooks for tools and a proper sort out, but that can be a job for the spring, when I can get both of the cars out.

[twosmoke300]

My fear as a self employed garage owner is if that car had had work done on it recently and that was proven to be the cause of the fire .

Even with proper insurance like I have it could finish you

[stuboy]

Mrs is very happy with her new pink bits on her car

[MarvinsMom]

  On 01/01/2018 at 10:32, Hooli said:

That amount of burning cars could melt the rebar within the concrete I'd have thought.

concrete is a really good insulator against fire.

 

problems start when or if the concrete starts to spall away from the rebar, but even then the risk of a collapse is much less in a concrete framed building in a fire situation than it would be for a steel framed building.

 

thats why grenfell tower stood up after that fire, a steel framed tower would probably collapsed.

[M'coli]

Concrete's such a good insulator that it's used to insulate horizontal RSJs and the like in many modern buildings like factory units and warehouses.

[Pillock]

I guess the issue is that the firefighters going in have no idea how the building has been constructed.... Are there steel beams holding up concrete floors etc? They haven't got time to dig out the drawings or phone the architect so they presume it will collapse.

[beko1987]

  On 01/01/2018 at 12:53, Pillock said:

I guess the issue is that the firefighters going in have no idea how the building has been constructed.... Are there steel beams holding up concrete floors etc? They haven't got time to dig out the drawings or phone the architect so they presume it will collapse.

I guess that's why their saying every car is written off, even if many were fine, they'll probably just raze the thing to the ground and clean it up afterwards?

[MikeR]

its a very tight car park , cars are very close together and the access ramps go up the middle of the building and getting in and out at rush hour normally means a que of cars , I went in it twice over the years and both times getting in and out on foot was "fun" with a wheelchair in tow , its not a car park I would prefer to go to ....

 

its design lends it to being a pretty good fire  , looking at the new pictures I would say its well gutted

[omegod]

I don't park there as it's a pain in the arse getting out after a gig. Friend of my dad has lost his 2 week old BMW in the fire and is obviously  pretty gutted 

 

I'm guessing the local scrap dealer is rubbing his hands right now though  

[M'coli]

I'd imagine the building construction will be listed in any decent fire plans, risk assessments, fire safety inspections and the like - it'd be part of getting a licence to operate the business.

[bramz7]

Went to the new year thing at Brooklands today. Yeah not bad, some cool things on display, despite the 88 and earlier rule I saw about a dozen MG TFs and various 00s dross. Maybe I should have asked if my Clio was allowed to be shown....?

 

I reckon I'll display either the Tempra or Tipo at the Auto Italia in May, if I can get it off. Apparently the Bristol Italian show which always preceded it has now been cancelled for good due to the council wanting £££s. Might make the Brooklands show even more busy than normal then...

[Guest Hooli]

My kitchen now smells of rotten EP90 but on the brightside the engine is almost ready to come out my Bonnie. Just the rearsets to remove as they use the same bolts as the rear mounts & then the bottom mount.

 

I'd do more but not really in the mood so back to slacking on here & feeling bloody tired.

[drum]

New purchases to be collected tomorrow #excited!

 

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

Old Doug the Digger needed some electrical boostage. Will he fire?

 

Set the controls for the heart of the moon.

 

Ignition

[MikeR]

https://news.sky.com/video/car-par-blaze-leaves-trail-of-destruction-11191692

 

see what you mean about the sloping floors , the place is decimated , even concrete is gone !!!

[twosmoke300]

All I got was some pricks skiiing

[Mally]

Comes after the skiing, bit of buffering but worth seeing. Melted the concrete to dust in places.

[SiC]

  On 01/01/2018 at 13:35, omegod said:

I'm guessing the local scrap dealer is rubbing his hands right now though

I believe fire damaged cars are pretty much worthless. The scrap is often too contaminated to be usefully recycled and a pain in the arse to deal with.

[SiC]

I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that car park at the moment. The amount of nasty stuff floating around in the air from the burnt cars and building fabric must be very large.

 

Also very impressive how the fire service managed to extinguish it completely.

[mrbenn]

Some apparently undamaged cars there. They'll have to be moved somehow, Shirley?

[Noel Tidybeard]

if it was a lhd rangey wont it be johnny foreigner who foots the insurance bill?

[MarvinsMom]

has land rover put a hybrid on sale yet?

 

if so then i hope its not a battery thing that has caused the fire.

[dollywobbler]

See, I find that amusing. All this panic about the danger of li-ion batteries catching fire, yet we've had over a century of cars proving that electrics and a tank full of petrol aren't exactly a great idea. 

It was described as an 'old' Range Rover, so I'm guessing there's naff all li-ion about it.

[holbeck]

The decision is made.

 

The Smart car and I are going to part company at the earliest opportunity.

 

I was in discussion with a shitter, but he has taken advice and the mhd (start/stop) fitted to this one is best avoided.

 

So, even though there is nothing wrong with this one (at the moment!) I shall probably bang it on ebay .

[omegod]

12 cars survived by my count, how you would get them out though is another matter ! 

[richardmorris]

  On 01/01/2018 at 16:07, drum said:

New purchases to be collected tomorrow #excited!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

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Set the controls to the heart of the moon.

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Ignition

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Doug the digger has a double at the field of dreams!

[cms206]

This man has just got on the bus next to mine in Edinburgh.

 

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[Bucketeer]

That is a strong look.

[SiC]

The pattern not matching between the fabric join really bugs me.

[JeeExEll]

  On 01/01/2018 at 20:05, SiC said:

The pattern not matching between the fabric join really bugs me.

Maybe he's pulled his jacket on insides-out.

 

It is rather an unusual choice. Out of all of the jackets in all of the jacket shops, "I want that one".

 

Fair enough, and Happy New Year to you bud. It could be a really expensive one-off designer one for all I know.

 

Twenty/ten for couldn't-give-a-fuckness though. A bit like something Gram Parsons might have worn