Six Cylinders Motoring Notes - a Workshop Day Today

[Six-cylinder]

20 minutes ago, mitsisigma01 said:

I know what you really want is my Sigma.... 

Is it a... 

Yes I do like Sigma's.

Renault is a good guess, but no.

[Tadhg Tiogar]

54 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

I have been at the extra storage this morning and grabbed another shot, I hope this helps.

I whipped the cover off and took a photo to reveal tonight.

The nose of that looks a bit Porsche 924-ish

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, Six-cylinder said:

I have been at the extra storage this morning and grabbed another shot, I hope this helps.

I whipped the cover off and took a photo to reveal tonight.

@barrett's Heron with some glass missing?

[Talbot]

20 hours ago, beko1987 said:

Your talking about the man who boasted during a sales pitch of getting a 2.0hdi to only do 20mpg...

I did?  How on earth did I make such an outlandish claim?!

Also, the tyre is now slightly too far south (overshot somewhat).

[Six-cylinder]

3 minutes ago, Talbot said:

I did?  How on earth did I make such an outlandish claim?!

Also, the tyre is now slightly too far south (overshot somewhat).

What, you were going so fast you couldn't stop!

[Mrs6C]

16 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

What, you were going so fast you couldn't stop!

I hope it didn't land in the Thames!

[mitsisigma01]

2 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

2 hours ago, mitsisigma01 said:

I know what you really want is my Sigma.... 

Is it a... 

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Yes I do like Sigma's.

Will it fit in one of your barns🤔

[Christine]

last guess... corvette c5

[Six-cylinder]

Another clue, a rear covered photo.

[dollywobbler]

I was going to say Nova kit car, but with the new shot I reckon Lotus Elan M100?

[Six-cylinder]

22 minutes ago, dollywobbler said:

I was going to say Nova kit car, but with the new shot I reckon Lotus Elan M100?

Yes Lotus Elan M100.

When I glanced back at it with its cover on it looked so unidentifiable I thought even an Autoshiter will not get that!

And yes I will send Smarties.

My friend Derek's car. It has developed a misfire which has been diagnosed as an injector that are very difficult to reach.

 

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, Mrs6C said:

I hope it didn't land in the Thames!

I was gonna say, ill let you know when it rolls by my window  

(which would be very impressive given im 3 stories up! although I am by a main road thats a nice long straight so we have the odd speeding boy racer type go past every now and then so I guess it could get fired at my window after it smashes into one them!)

[Six-cylinder]

12 hours ago, Zelandeth said:

Good good.  Hope she continues to behave.  As I said at the time I dropped the car back off, drives absolutely lovely aside from that miss. 

Dam, Trevi misfire is back.

[Zelandeth]

Dammit.  Though to be fair, she does need at the least a set of carb gaskets (or at least something better than decomposed newspaper which is what what's in there currently looks like) - and it's entirely possible the idle mixture is miles off given I couldn't seem to get it to behave...but I hadn't even thought about the ignition system.  I reckon it may well have ended up way too rich as it was behaving like the car was running lean.

Which given I had similar symptoms behaving like fuel starvation presented by my last Saab when I had issues with the rotor arm *should* have rang alarm bells for me when I couldn't trim it out with the mixture screw.  I just got hung up on that bloody metering solenoid.

I reckon once the weather improves in the spring I need a Round 2 with that car.  Especially now I know the ignition system is suspect...I do at least have the equipment to actually test both HT and LT systems and have a realtime trace of what they're doing displayed, so getting to the bottom of it shouldn't be *too* difficult.  There's not a huge amount to the system (coil, ballast resistor (pretty sure I remember seeing one on the side of the coil), distributor, rotor, either hall effect or optical chopper, ignition amp, HT leads and plugs...that's about it) so once we can see what it's actually doing hopefully it shouldn't be hugely difficult to narrow it down.  I'm assuming this uses electronic coil switching rather than having points with it being a fairly high performance car...if she's running points it's even easier as that eliminates the ignition amp as a possible cause. 

[Six-cylinder]

10 minutes ago, Zelandeth said:

Dammit.  Though to be fair, she does need at the least a set of carb gaskets (or at least something better than decomposed newspaper which is what what's in there currently looks like) - and it's entirely possible the idle mixture is miles off given I couldn't seem to get it to behave...but I hadn't even thought about the ignition system.  I reckon it may well have ended up way too rich as it was behaving like the car was running lean.

Which given I had similar symptoms behaving like fuel starvation presented by my last Saab when I had issues with the rotor arm *should* have rang alarm bells for me when I couldn't trim it out with the mixture screw.  I just got hung up on that bloody metering solenoid.

I reckon once the weather improves in the spring I need a Round 2 with that car.  Especially now I know the ignition system is suspect...I do at least have the equipment to actually test both HT and LT systems and have a realtime trace of what they're doing displayed, so getting to the bottom of it shouldn't be *too* difficult.  There's not a huge amount to the system (coil, ballast resistor (pretty sure I remember seeing one on the side of the coil), distributor, rotor, either hall effect or optical chopper, ignition amp, HT leads and plugs...that's about it) so once we can see what it's actually doing hopefully it shouldn't be hugely difficult to narrow it down.  I'm assuming this uses electronic coil switching rather than having points with it being a fairly high performance car...if she's running points it's even easier as that eliminates the ignition amp as a possible cause. 

The ignition system now has new HT leads, cap and rotor. There is a clue in the photo of the cap why it would not start after the HT leads were changed. It starts easily now cold or hot.

[Six-cylinder]

A new what car under the cover, I don't think this one is so difficult.

[Talbot]

3 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

What, you were going so fast you couldn't stop!

All that additional momentum from carrying what felt like a metric tonne of rubber in the boot.  For a 9x16 tyre, it's absolutely massive.

3 hours ago, Mrs6C said:

I hope it didn't land in the Thames!

No, but it got perilously close to the english channel (as a percentage of it's overall journey that is.)

[Cord Fourteener]

9 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

A new what car under the cover, I don't think this one is so difficult.

Some kind of E class?

[Cord Fourteener]

Alternative suggestions could be Rover 600 or BMW 5 series E39. But I will stick with the Mercedes E class of the similar era, no idea what designation that is. Could also be the Coupé version on that platform I suppose.

[mitsisigma01]

1 hour ago, Six-cylinder said:

There is a clue in the photo of the cap why it would not start after the HT leads were changed. It starts easily now cold or hot.

1,4,3,2🙄

[richardmorris]

28 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

A new what car under the cover, I don't think this one is so difficult.

Your convertible merc?

[Six-cylinder]

21 minutes ago, richardmorris said:

Your convertible merc?

Yes that's the one.

[Noel Tidybeard]

On 30/10/2020 at 10:50, dave j said:

The wipers on my Shogun Sport self park when you turn the ignition off, not seen that on a car before!

they do that on a Renner nnnn19

[Six-cylinder]

31 minutes ago, mitsisigma01 said:

1,4,3,2🙄

You have got it.

PM sent

[richardmorris]

4 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

Yes that's the one.

So I’ve won it yes? 

[Six-cylinder]

1 minute ago, richardmorris said:

So I’ve won it yes? 

Not even any smarties for guessing this one!

One day you can borrow it when the world sorts itself out.

[Andyrew]

Ive Got a kinked powersteering pipe to have a look at to see if i can repair it.

*sniff sniff*

Vp smells the scent of the "plug hole of doom" on this pipe . . .

(Also Vp progress happening this weekend!)

[richardmorris]

1 hour ago, Six-cylinder said:

Not even any smarties for guessing this one!

One day you can borrow it when the world sorts itself out.

Wot no smarties?

[Mrs6C]

6 minutes ago, richardmorris said:

Wot no smarties?

I'll see to it that he sends you a packet as well...

[Noel Tidybeard]

On 21/10/2020 at 19:03, AnthonyG said:

@SlowsilverThe dashboard in all post 87 Maestros is a Montego one.
From memory by there was  a very half-arsed refresh of the Maestro in late 87 or spring 88 and the Montego dash was a major part of that.  I assume all switchgear, controls on this one is all Montego as well. 

I have a HBOL for Montego 2.0, if you need any scans. Or you/Chris can have it if it helps. Let me know and I will chuck in the post.

the original multi piece dash was replaced with montego dash in early '86, the metro/montego style clocks replaced the fibre optic dials around '85- green dash lighting on all

the roverised montego dash came around '90/91- orange lit

 

the clock in 6cs car are the later nippon seiki unit- round trip reset, smooth dial face

earlier lucas cluster has oblong reset button which can be a pita to use & complex dial faces designed to be removeable with needles in place

city & city-x lost the electronic carb of bASe