Shite tv: South Wales banger dealer bbc2 now

[HMC]

Some sort of role swap tv programme. Cheap used car dealer from Wales swaps jobs with some sort of top end car bloke from the smoke.

[HMC]

Actually it said " banger " in the tv listings - they're not, at least by our standards! A relative term perhaps intended for the masses and their financed 2 year old hacks.

[beko1987]

Looked at the title and was gonna ask what its called so I can iPlayer it later, don't think I'll bother now!

[lisbon_road]

Too right.  £6K isn't a banger in my books!

[AnthonyG]

It wasn't Dan the banger man from Abertillery then? he used to sell (perhaps dispose of is a more appropriate way to put it) all the shittiest part-exes from the main Empress Car Sales operation, at one time the highest volume used car dealership in the UK. When they got bought by Carcraft in about 1998 he went solo, trading on his name and 'reputation'.

 

The furthest depths of the Empress lot was the guaranteed way to find the very worst example of any 1980s mainstream model in the country back then! Dan operated out of a Portakabin in true Arfur style.

[Cavcraft]

 I was invited to appear on that, but as I have the perfect face for radio, I declined.

[Pillock]

Plus dealing with complaints by setting fire to houses isn't really BBC material.

 

I'd quite like to see a BMW dealer try and shift some of the things that Cavcraft deal with though. That would be interesting as they demonstrate the way to clamber over a 306 back seat and through the tailgate when the door lock fails.

[Bren]

I was told many moons ago that the dross that was entered for auction was put on transporters and taken to South Wales.

[AnthonyG]

At one point it did seem like all Vauxhalls went to South Wales when knackered, just like all old Mercs end up in Africa.

 

After meeting you lot, I now know better!

[HillmanImp]

Did not watch this but saw it advertised. Did not really see the point of it from its premise TBH. Someone who sells high priced toys tries to sell something completely different. May as well have had the same guy sell country & western CDs on a market stall for the same kind of 'fish out of water' sales drama.

I still reckon Arm Wrestling with Chas and Dave is a good idea though. Why doesn't someone commission that? Better idea than Monkey Tennis anyhow.

[HMC]

^ what about inner city sumo?

[EssDeeWon]

Looking around that showroom in London didn't really interest me at all, and the stuff in Bridgend was just a void of 10 year old fodder which was about as interesting as cheap white goods.

 

I expected the low end dealer to be knocking out smokey J reg Fiesta's and the high end dealer to have a showroom of 75's in various specs and colours.

[HillmanImp]

^ what about inner city sumo?

 

I actually cannot believe that has not been picked up yet. 

[cort16]

Some of those old Ferraris are luuuvrly. I wouldn't pay the money for them but I'd happily sit and look at them all day.

[fordperv]

At one point it did seem like all Vauxhalls went to South Wales when knackered, just like all old Mercs end up in Africa.

 

After meeting you lot, I now know better!

Yep you now know the vauxhalls go to cavcraft

[Richard]

 

I still reckon Arm Wrestling with Chas and Dave is a good idea though. Why doesn't someone commission that? Better idea than Monkey Tennis anyhow.

 

Cooking in Prison did end up getting made. With Kneeface, naturally.

[In The Pit]

I was expecting the two salesman to be complete tw@~s but to be fair they both seemed like decent blokes.

[purplebargeken]

I found it quite interesting tbh. I had hoped that the guy from Bridgend would make a sale and get some decent commision. 

 

Even Mrs. PBK watched it and found it interesting.

 

As said above, both of them seemed decent blokes who seemed to get something from the experience. Much better than some of the crap on TV.

 

Not enough XM/R75/Vectra action though 

[Bucketeer]

^^^^ Agreed.

I found it pleasantly non-exploitative with no contrived tension or conflict. Just two blokes swapping lots and and trying to do a decent job.

[New POD]

My nephew used to work as a letting agent in London, at the low end of the market. He now works as a sales agent at the high end of the market in Liverpool. He say the only difference is that he makes more commission on less volume. I can't see the difference, If you've got a hot buyer, someone who is going to buy something, then, you've just got to give them your time and energy and make sure that you stay connected.  

[MrBiscuits]

The proprietor in south wales seemed to think he was providing some sort of service for the local community. Looking at the prices on his lot I'm not so sure.

 

I will admit I'm not familiar with the retail trade, and small car prices but £3695 for a 56 plate C2 seems a bit strong??

 

Similarly that 206 van with 113k and the wrong wheels was up for something like £4k...

[jonny69]

I wanted that younger bloke to be a jumped up t*** and for him to fall on his arse and fail terribly, but he turned out to be a decent honest lad and did a good job. First impressions eh? His commute is complete madness though.

[BavarianRetro]

I thought it was actually quite interesting. I think, unusually, it was quite genuine and more documentary than entertainment.

 

Interesting  that the young Macari bloke "got" the market differences far quicker and quickly grasped that a sale on that lot takes place immediately whereas it happens over days and weeks at Macaris. But his first contact that he let walk away came back and bought the car a few days later. 

 

Whereas the Bridgend guy couldn't grasp that the investment buyer wanted to know how much money he'd make and just wasn't interested in how useable the rear seats were. 

[HMC]

Yeah +1 on the commute bit. Didnt really add anything to it and probably drained them even before starting work. The whole fish out of water thing would have worked better had they lived nearby the premises, or even at Their respective houses

[fordperv]

Shite points for the macari place having a figaro out back

[2MB]

The program saddened me in two ways. Firstly I felt sorry for the people at the 'cheap' dealership that we're gonna end up paying many times the value of the car to have something nearly 10 years old with a good chance of big bills lurking. However nobody is making them do it and it leaves the old, simple and actually cheap motors for the like of us.

Secondly the target market of Joe macari's shop seemed only to be interested in the cash value of what he had on offer. I know you don't get rich by being ruled with your heart but it seems the classic car market is very cynical though.

 

However the metallic blue 250 lusso made it all worthwhile (ferraris do nothing for me but that one was lovely)

[cort16]

You'd be surprised at how many people commute that distance. I do an hour each way and it pisses me off.

[Justin Case]

Actually better than I expected, all the people in the trade came out well. I hope that they make a second programme where that family who needed a car and obviously couldn't get the credit for a Hyndai I10 PCP which would have suited them well, swap places with that smarmy git who was only interested in how much that Ferrari would be worth in  a year's time.

[inconsistant]

For the follow up programme they should swap the tinsel bunting with the glass frameless office doors and see how that shakes things up.

[Jon]

I really hope this is the shape of things to come in documentary making for mass audiences. There's still a bit of room for improvement (the 'sob story' piano music when Welsh buyer explained his family health issues should be binned) but it's way better than other slice of life stuff which is purely there to promote toe-curling conflicts, like Wife Swap. I'm glad they didn't live in each others' houses for that matter but I thought it was heading that way when they swapped cars. Good programming shouldn't need gimmicks but I guess viewers need to be weaned off from this stuff.

 

I agree with the car prices etc. at that used car lot but then most people just want something they can run around in and £4000 may not seem too much to them spread over a year or two. If you're buying an 8 year old Picasso, you're hardly a car enthusiast; it's a white good and you're not bothered about joining an internet forum about cars, doing your own servicing etc. Gotta say that I'd love the challenge of selling those supercars and I reckon with a fair bit of studying build numbers, tech specs etc. that it could be achievable. Or maybe I've just delusions of grandeur from reading too many issues of C&SC.