Timewaster Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, D.E said: This 2CV special, built in 1959 by two Belgian students. What is going on with those wipers? @dollywobbler needs to investigate. Remspoor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TataBobu Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Yes, I knew this type of Dacia exists. Looks like the 1307 (based on the regular pick-up) and the 1309. It's not. The rear door is square, as is the rear door glass. All romanian Dacia pick-ups have the rear door rounded for the wheel, as you can see here: http://www.automobileromanesti.ro/Dacia/Dacia_Pick-Up/ The site where the picture is from is a right mine full of obscure shite. LightBulbFun, catsinthewelder and Dyslexic Viking 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Speed Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I had not realised "Borgwards" have been made in China since 2016. This is the BX-7. bunglebus and garethj 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.E Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Three Speed said: I had not realised "Borgwards" have been made in China since 2016. This is the BX-7. That's actually the second time someone tries to revive Borgward. The first time was when a German Daihatsu dealer sticked Borgward badges on AMCs built in Mexico... MisterH, warren t claim, garethj and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austat Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Renault Ondine, a more plush version of the Dauphine: adw1977, egg, chaseracer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austat Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Alfa Romeo Alfetta "Economia" 1.6, with single headlamps instead of quads: Shite Ron, lesapandre, JeeExEll and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remspoor Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 2:30 PM, Austat said: Renault Ondine, a more plush version of the Dauphine: May I show you the Dauphine Alfa Romeo? https://drivetribe.com/p/dauphine-alfa-romeo-1959-1964-KsrsnUMwQhujfq5vtWf0RQ?iid=SgbN7hBeSxagTVAATWq1Ww Yoss, MisterH, adw1977 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 850 convertible made by Nilsson Special Vehicles. I want it. timolloyd, bunglebus, Remspoor and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Nilsson? 'If living is without you...!' timolloyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod/b Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 On 10/16/2021 at 1:06 PM, Three Speed said: I had not realised "Borgwards" have been made in China since 2016. This is the BX-7. They’re kinda not anymore apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I was a behind a Hyundai Ioniq 5 earlier. Not exactly my cup of tea, but I appreciate the very 80s concept car style lights and flush handles. The future is now Dyslexic Viking, Datsuncog, chaseracer and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I'm not much of a one for supercars, but a chance marketstall encounter this morning pointed me towards a car I never knew existed... A 'MIG Georgia Centenaire' - WTF? Apparently this started off as a carbon fibre supercar with a Lamborghini-derived engine, designed in the late 1980s by Italian F2 driver Fulvio Ballabio, and built by his company Monte Carlo Automobile (MCA) as the Monte Carlo GTB Centenaire. Mega Monte Carlo GTB 1992 Test (roadandtrack.com) Sales weren't especially great though, with only five apparently built - including one gifted to Prince Rainier of Monaco. The rights to the project were then bought up by a Georgian businessman in 1993, with designs on racing at Le Mans, and a further car was built, badged as the MIG M100 Centenaire - with 'MIG' apparently standing for 'Migrelli and Georgia'. The effort was, according to Wikipedia, "a complete failure", with the MIG failing to qualify for Le Mans. The design then passed to French manufacturer Aixam-Méga, who built an undisclosed number of examples under the name Méga Monte Carlo GTB, now with a Mercedes V12 fitted, between 1996 and 1999, before quietly discontinuing it. Quite why Bburago bothered to make a model of this oddity is anyone's guess, but still... I never knew it existed until today. SteersWithThrottle, face, RoadworkUK and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.E Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Bburago sure offered some obscure models. I have a 1/18 Bburago "Giugaro Prima", is that even a real car? Google doesn't seem to think so... Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterH Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Datsuncog said: who built an undisclosed number of examples under the name Méga Monte Carlo GTB That in itself is one of my favourite supercars, saw it as a child at goodwood circa 2006, would prefer the Mega Track though, a 4WD offroad supercar, it was huge! Datsuncog, garethj and lesapandre 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfg Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 10/15/2021 at 7:39 PM, D.E said: This 2CV special, built in 1959 by two Belgian students. That's very contemporary ..designing a car with the crash damage from new. ..very similar idea to buying new ripped jeans Datsuncog and LightBulbFun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austat Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 The Pichon & Parat coachbuilt Citroen DS models from the early 1960's: ... who built coupés... and cabriolets... I'll look into Pichon-Parat a bit more, they had some interesting coach-built designs. Datsuncog, Dr_Slow, Shite Ron and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Datsuncog said: I'm not much of a one for supercars, but a chance marketstall encounter this morning pointed me towards a car I never knew existed... A 'MIG Georgia Centenaire' - WTF? Apparently this started off as a carbon fibre supercar with a Lamborghini-derived engine, designed in the late 1980s by Italian F2 driver Fulvio Ballabio, and built by his company Monte Carlo Automobile (MCA) as the Monte Carlo GTB Centenaire. Mega Monte Carlo GTB 1992 Test (roadandtrack.com) Sales weren't especially great though, with only five apparently built - including one gifted to Prince Rainier of Monaco. The rights to the project were then bought up by a Georgian businessman in 1993, with designs on racing at Le Mans, and a further car was built, badged as the MIG M100 Centenaire - with 'MIG' apparently standing for 'Migrelli and Georgia'. The effort was, according to Wikipedia, "a complete failure", with the MIG failing to qualify for Le Mans. The design then passed to French manufacturer Aixam-Méga, who built an undisclosed number of examples under the name Méga Monte Carlo GTB, now with a Mercedes V12 fitted, between 1996 and 1999, before quietly discontinuing it. Quite why Bburago bothered to make a model of this oddity is anyone's guess, but still... I never knew it existed until today. I had that Burago when I was younger. It was badged MCA Centenaire, so I guess Burago thought it would be a winner and tooled up, then re-branded it to suit the change of ownership/name. I wonder which (toy) is rarer? 16 minutes ago, Austat said: I'll look into Pichon-Parat a bit more, they had some interesting coach-built designs. There's a very good book (in French) about P-P which is worth having if you're interested Datsuncog, Austat and lesapandre 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 40 minutes ago, Austat said: The Pichon & Parat coachbuilt Citroen DS models from the early 1960's: ... who built coupés... and cabriolets... I'll look into Pichon-Parat a bit more, they had some interesting coach-built designs. Front looks quite Panhardesque with those lights. lesapandre, chaseracer and egg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austat Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, wuvvum said: Front looks quite Panhardesque with those lights. That's what I thought when I first saw it, all thought the Panhard 24CT wasn't launched till 1964 whilst the Pichot-Parat DS's debuted in around 1961. lesapandre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 10 hours ago, bunglebus said: I was a behind a Hyundai Ioniq 5 earlier. Not exactly my cup of tea, but I appreciate the very 80s concept car style lights and flush handles. The future is now For some reason the back end styling reminds me of the Lada 112. I'm not sure why as there's not a great deal of resemblance there. lesapandre and MisterH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfg Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 21 hours ago, Austat said: ..that chap is def a Citroen perv MisterH and Yoss 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 21 hours ago, Austat said: The Pichon & Parat coachbuilt Citroen DS models from the early 1960's: ... who built coupés... and cabriolets... I'll look into Pichon-Parat a bit more, they had some interesting coach-built designs. That is not an improvement. Why would you pay presumably a considerable amount to make your car look worse. For the individuality I guess but I'd rather have a standard one and keep the money but what do I know? It's nothing new I guess, the world's entire kit car industry is based on making things worse for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 1:09 AM, wuvvum said: For some reason the back end styling reminds me of the Lada 112. I'm not sure why as there's not a great deal of resemblance there. Yes, I'm sure that's just the look they were going for. bunglebus, Datsuncog, wuvvum and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterH Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Yoss said: world's entire kit car industry is based on making things worse for money I think the chaps at Ginetta might beg to differ... Remspoor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 There are always exceptions, I was generalising for comic effect. MisterH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Yoss said: That is not an improvement. Why would you pay presumably a considerable amount to make your car look worse. For the individuality I guess but I'd rather have a standard one and keep the money but what do I know? It's nothing new I guess, the world's entire kit car industry is based on making things worse for money. I agree. The DS was a beautiful design, both aesthetically and mechanically / hydrauliclarly. That is abysmal. I was offered a DS and an Audi 70 when I was 20, too scared to take either on though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Traction Avant based, home made (no idea on the final pic) wuvvum, catsinthewelder, mintwth and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 The Hungarian micro car industry. Did you ever think such a thing existed? Well it did and it was very busy indeed - below is a link and some choice pictures (I've shoved a few in the BW thread as well). The industry started as a way of circumventing Comecon restrictions on car production in the Bloc. Hungary had no tradition of building cars and so was not allowed to build them. But they wanted to build them and so came up with a whole slew of home grown micro-cars which where not covered by the regs. Also, like the rest of Europe, there was a shortage of cheap transport in the '50's. https://www.vintag.es/2018/01/vintage-photos-of-creative-postwar.html JeeExEll, Austat, adw1977 and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Moskvitch AZLK-2139 'Arbat' 1991. Scuppered by a) lack of enthusiasm from the politicians for such a bourgeois car aimed at the middle classes and b) the collapse of the Soviet Union by itself. warch, adw1977, Coprolalia and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 7:34 PM, martc said: The Hungarian micro car industry. Did you ever think such a thing existed? Well it did and it was very busy indeed - below is a link and some choice pictures (I've shoved a few in the BW thread as well). The industry started as a way of circumventing Comecon restrictions on car production in the Bloc. Hungary had no tradition of building cars and so was not allowed to build them. But they wanted to build them and so came up with a whole slew of home grown micro-cars which where not covered by the regs. Also, like the rest of Europe, there was a shortage of cheap transport in the '50's. https://www.vintag.es/2018/01/vintage-photos-of-creative-postwar.html There's also a good book about the Hungarian motoring industry (in English) with details about all of these, although I can't seem to find a copy for sale at this moment martc, JeeExEll, D.E and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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