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On 9/30/2021 at 12:51 AM, Austat said:

Nissan Laurel C130-EV:

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One of them, imported and put on an ‘75 N plate or similar, with that silly little green bit at the front, would be just brilliant. 

I wouldn’t be able to go very far in it, obviously. I expect going over 25mph gave you a range of about 7 miles. 

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On 10/6/2021 at 9:34 AM, MJK 24 said:

I knew Alfa made commercials up to approx the late 60’s.  Completely unaware mainland Europe were getting them until the very end of the 80’s though!  A clear Fiat / Iveco base.  I wonder what the point was?!

 

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I guess another outlet for sales, and more guaranteed volume for the SEVEL JV/factories that built them.  No idea what Alfa’s market share of the Italian LCV market was, but even if they only shifted 5000 a year it’s worth tooling up for the grille, badges, and maybe some odd plastic ‘Alfa’ bits like a steering wheel centre. 

Fiat didn’t buy Alfa until about 86/87, so at least the bottom two would have been the result of an agreement/contract between two separate companies, although I can well expect Italian govt involvement in the arrangement. 

Lancia built commercials as well, and I think that bit was bought by another truck company when Fiat purchased the cars business in the late 1960s. 

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On 10/6/2021 at 6:52 AM, Austat said:

Toyota Kijang & the Toyota Tamaraw, both for the Indonesian market: 

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I used to get from my hotel to the airport in these - just taxis you hail and jump in the back of and squeeze in with about 20 people. 

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On 9/27/2021 at 4:15 PM, JimH said:

Only just found out about this. 

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I assume from the little front plate and general wet soap in the raininess it is some JDM thing. But what?  

They're really just Toyota Paseos with gull wing doors.

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21 hours ago, vulgalour said:

Seat's version of the Polo estate.  Never knew this was a thing until earlier today.

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I have always thought they look like Astra 3rd gen estates.

 

 

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21 hours ago, vulgalour said:

Seat's version of the Polo estate.  Never knew this was a thing until earlier today.

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It was actually the other way round. That's a Seat Cordoba Vario.The Cordoba was the saloon /estate version of the Ibiza. It was sold as a Polo estate,and I think saloon, as well.But different to the Polo hatch, being closer to the Golf in size. Son had one for a while. Really liked it. Paid 500 quid for it and had a hell of a lot of use out of it. Very economical too, with a 90hp1.9 Tdi engine. 

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51 minutes ago, Dobloseven said:

It was actually the other way round. That's a Seat Cordoba Vario.The Cordoba was the saloon /estate version of the Ibiza. It was sold as a Polo estate,and I think saloon, as well.But different to the Polo hatch, being closer to the Golf in size. Son had one for a while. Really liked it. Paid 500 quid for it and had a hell of a lot of use out of it. Very economical too, with a 90hp1.9 Tdi engine. 

Was also sold as a VW Caddy van possibly at the same time as they were sticking Caddy badges on Felicia pick ups. Saved them an awful lot of money having to develop their own small commercials, just pinch stuff from the sister brands and slap a VW badge on it. Not that that's anything new of course. 

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4 hours ago, Dobloseven said:

It was actually the other way round. That's a Seat Cordoba Vario.The Cordoba was the saloon /estate version of the Ibiza. It was sold as a Polo estate,and I think saloon, as well.But different to the Polo hatch, being closer to the Golf in size. Son had one for a while. Really liked it. Paid 500 quid for it and had a hell of a lot of use out of it. Very economical too, with a 90hp1.9 Tdi engine. 

First LHD car I ever drove was one of those, badged as a VW. I tell a lie, it was the second. It was the first manual LHD car I ever drove though 

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The above two I knew about. The next two I didn't. 

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And then I found this. A very early development idea, I'm not sure if it's even a real car, probably just a mock up. 

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Landcrab sized but looks like a Mini.  I'd love to see this next a new Bini. I think they'd be almost identical. 

All the above courtesy of AROnline, the go to site for anything Leyland based. 

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That is actually an Austin 1100 estate tailgate on the 3 Litre. I don't know how it was kept open on the 1100 but I expect they used the same mechanism. The struts on the 1800 do look oversized but that must be a very heavy tailgate. 

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3 hours ago, Yoss said:

The above two I knew about. The next two I didn't. 

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And then I found this. A very early development idea, I'm not sure if it's even a real car, probably just a mock up. 

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Landcrab sized but looks like a Mini.  I'd love to see this next a new Bini. I think they'd be almost identical. 

All the above courtesy of AROnline, the go to site for anything Leyland based. 

The Mini Cuntryman looks quite similar in my head... 

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1 hour ago, Leyland Worldmaster said:

The Mini Cuntryman looks quite similar in my head... 

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It is. BMW have copied the Nuffield/BMC design lexicon quite closely. There is quite a lot of 50's Morris Oxford in these designs too. 

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2 hours ago, bunglebus said:

Early Escort estates used a torsion spring rather than struts. Probably something similar

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Or a horizontal spring mechanism mounted in the roof. More expensive  to engineer than simple gas struts.

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5 hours ago, Yoss said:

The above two I knew about. The next two I didn't. 

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And then I found this. A very early development idea, I'm not sure if it's even a real car, probably just a mock up. 

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Landcrab sized but looks like a Mini.  I'd love to see this next a new Bini. I think they'd be almost identical. 

All the above courtesy of AROnline, the go to site for anything Leyland based. 

The 1100 tailgate is by Crayford of Westerham. The frame is so flimsy and the ratchet stays so prone to sticking that a cracked rear window would have been a near inevitably. 

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