Triumph 2000 Project - SOLD

[The Moog]

So last night Scruff dropped off the Triumph. Was a bit of a struggle as the OSR brake decided to stick on, but he managed to deposit it safely.

First thing this morning i pumped up tyres which makes it look less like it has been dumped.

Neighbours have already made
noises - ladies are horrified, men are pretty impressed

First issue is that i need to fit a coil to try and get it running under its own steam to put it in the garage. HBOL doesn't cover it

So how do i wire it in?

[Mr_Bo11ox]

It must be in the HBOL, in the wiring diagram. There's only 2 wires, one leading to the dizzy and one coming from the ignition switch. I can't remember which way round they go but you can't do any harm if you get em back to front. It'll defo be in the wiring diagram.

[worldofceri]

Looks great.  I like these a lot.

[Squire_Dawson]

Make sure the coil is non-ballast/ballast as specified, and has the correct end (push in or screw-in king lead?). Some of them have a terminal marked 'CB' which goes to the dizzy. They are very nice cars.

[scooters]

Coil should be fine I sourced a specific one. Negative to battery and switch positive to points and condenser.

 

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[HillmanImp]

Does this help?

[The Moog]

It does cheers. Now started pissing down so will have to wait until later.

[The Moog]

Have few more pics

[HillmanImp]

Ah, I see you have that odd metal on Triumphs that cracks. My GT6's sills were made of that. I pointed it out to the seller who said 'No I welded it for its MOT, but I am not very good at welding'. 

 

Too right you are no good at welding, you can't even tell the difference between a mig welder and a tin of Isopon. 

 

I bought it anyhow, obviously.

[RedSparrow]

Lovely. One of the best looking cars ever made IMO.

[aldo135]

Good luck with it mate. I'm another big fan of the 2000s and have had a couple of mk1s in the past.

 

 

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[eddyramrod]

I've always fancied one of these, but never managed more than the odd passenger ride, and even those were over 30 years ago.  Best of luck with it, they look lovely all brightened up.

[purplebargeken]

Excellent. Looks like Honeysuckle colour-wise. Wings for these ar bloody pricey though. Good purchase!

[Cavcraft]

Brilliant, haven't seen one in a while which is a shame as they are fine looking things.

[Inspector Morose]

They're wonderful machines, if a bit under geared. I've had two (both mk2s) and loved them both. I worked with a chap who worked on the PI fuel distribution pumps when they were current (it was a glorified Lucas DPA as seen on many a XUD and leyland leopard) and we worked a way of reducing the fuelling to make a 2000 PI version, all built were 2500s. The main problem, he told me, with the 2500 PI apart from the comedy supply pump was fuel starvation due to cavitation in the distribution pump. The cure? A 1.5mm hole drilled in the rotor to let the air bubbles move out the way.

Still to this day, I've never a more lovely sounding car than those.

[twosmoke300]

Prob too late but if coil terminals are numbered its 15 to ign switch and 1 to the points

[Squire_Dawson]

Wasn't the big problem on the Injected models not so much the design, which I believe was rather good, but the fact that they used essentially a wiper-motor to drive the pump?

[Inspector Morose]

Yup, that was the main issue. The totally inadequate motor overheated and failed with great regularity. The other issue was akin to fuel starvation and poor starting symptoms. DPAs hate air in the lines. If you've ever run a Lucas CAV pumped diesel out of fuel, they can be a right bastard to bleed and get going again (cue hundreds of people on here saying that they've never had a problem - oh well, I can only go on my own experience)

[The Moog]

Due to miserable weather i have been wading through the box of documents that come with it.

 

One little green book a PO has written notes about everything. Sample quote - car stopped four miles south of Chipping Norton. Diagnosis hairline crack in rotor arm.

 

Also some period adverts

[Skizzer]

Win! That looks very fine (er, especially from a distance). Looking forward to a Ratdat-style fettling saga.

[scooters]

I bought it from a chap near Sedburgh in spring 2012 and ran it as my daily for 8 months. Had to mothball due to rust when mot time came up. Plan was to restore it in business but a change in market focus made it redundant. I'm glad Will has taken it in as it is a very nice car to drive and the straight six with the overdrive is a wonderful engine in good condition. I prefer the twin carb 2000 to the 2500 it just feels a bit more elegant on the road...just personal preference. Anyway best of luck with it Will

 

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[Sudsprint]

One of those rare cars that was better for its styling update and looked just as good in estate version.

[The Moog]

Put the battery on charge tonight and fitted the coil. Ordered set of spark plugs and leads as well as an acu spark because I am not used to points.

 

Cleaned out fuel filter, it was only a little gunky.

 

I need to get the car running to lob it in the garage and out of the way.

 

Had a small poke at sills and it showered orange. Drivers side outer one is split to about half way down. All the ends of the sills are pretty much missing.

 

At the moment it feels like a pretty big task. Currently looking for a days welding intro course so i can learn.

 

Once I get it into the garage i will do some photos for you all.

 

One question i had is whether i should be saving my pennies for replacement sills? Or is there cheaper way to fix them

[Skizzer]

Be very interested to see how you get on finding and doing a day's welding course.  I had a look down here and couldn't find anything less than a two year NVQ thingy, but surely that can't be right.  

 

Otherwise we could just go and camp out on Philibusmo's drive one sunny afternoon while he tackles the rear wings on the Y10

[The Moog]

Found a couple. One is in Dorset in the rural skills place which would mean a very long day http://www.dorsetruralskills.co.uk/courses/welding.htm

 

Saying that is someone from AS wanted to a basic how to weld course would happily put a nice chunk towards their beer fund

[HillmanImp]

You really don't need a course, just practice on a few bits of metal. Make sure the surfaces are clean and learn what the good sizzle sounds like. It will take a few attempts but am sure you can probably get a pretty good Youtube tutorial.

[cort16]

Get A good welder too. My welder snags all the time, which makes getting a good seam going difficult and it makes me want to hit it with an axe.

[scooters]

I'd go replacement on the sills and patch the floors. The sills would be tricky to fabricate having worked on Bills ones it is the one panel I would definitely buy..

 

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[Bren]

I would do a course just so somebody more experienced can tell you where you are going wrong - please bear in mind it used to take 3 years to serve your time as a welder.

 

You can practice in terms of patching etc. however you may need more than that if you want to replace the sills - you want it to look tidy and you dont want a call from the tester to say your new sills have come adrift!

 

Many moons ago a local SD1 club member fitted a new wing to his SD1 despite having no experience welding and being advised not to - he thought he had done a good job until a set of ladders fell on it and the wing came off.

 

Do a short course and you won't look back.

[Vince70]

I hope it all works out for you welding up the old girl mine needed new inner and out sills plus repairs to the floors back in 1987 (it looked solid on top apart from the front wheel arches) and it was hard back then when the car was 12 years old to find solid metal underneath.

 

Also I remember the front wheel arches on mine had been gobbed up badly and I looked at buying new wings but the price was a kings ransom but there were repair arches available but I don't know if you can still get them.

 

There's not a saloon car that looks as good as the Triumph 2000/2500 and the straight 6 engine sounds fantastic and I always wanted a 2500s (never the pi) in burgundy with the stag type alloys and a gold laurel on the bonnet

 

This and the rover P6 were in my opinion were the best looking saloons of the 70s back in the day..