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[N19]

On 3/28/2023 at 12:15 PM, CreepingJesus said:

Pretty sure they've got something like that in Edinburgh too - the buses have had guide wheels for quite a while. I'm just not sure how much there is, or where it is! Nothing to the extent of a proper guided busway like the above.

They did from c.2005 to c.2012ish, in the Stenhouse area, for services 2 & 22. A small number of buses allocated to these routes had guide-wheels fitted, it was only over a certain part of the route though - the rest was on normal roads. It closed down to facilitate the tram and the buses were re-routed to adjacent roads.

[martc]

Did I say I liked Ikrarus's (Ikarusi?)? This one is a 255.

[Eyersey1234]

Our two Tourismos side by side on Wednesday 

[MiniMinorMk3]

Pretendy vintage bus in that there London 1992. Plate is now on a 2008 Rennow Van

[EML]

Whilst trying to find some info on when Burton's garage shut in Grimsby I came across this photo

[busmansholiday]

^^^ One of the ex London DMS Fleetlines. 

[Eyersey1234]

22 hours ago, EML said:

Whilst trying to find some info on when Burton's garage shut in Grimsby I came across this photo

I didn't realise they had a branch in Louth, whereabouts was it?

[EML]

On 4/3/2023 at 6:24 PM, Eyersey1234 said:

I didn't realise they had a branch in Louth, whereabouts was it?

On Legbourne road, on the way out of Louth,  heading towards Kenwick. And its still there, and still owned by a Burton's family member. Used cars only now, they had a nice low mileage Renault 5 recently for sale

And this Uno rally car.

[gm]

in Cuba, apparently 

 

[martc]

Talking of Cuba...

If anyone ends up in Cuba, here's a mystery for them to solve.

Giron IV is a local Cuban bus manufacturer. The bodywork etc of this Giron is almost identical to the Ikarus 200 series, but, apparantly, almost all Girons wear the Hino badges. Are they old Ikarus 200's upgraded with Hino engines? Or a local copy of an Ikarus, with Hino engnes?

[martc]

At least one sheep is admiring the chrome clad coach parade at Tan Hill.

[MiniMinorMk3]

Park Royal, Brent, 1990. Time for a burger?

[Dyslexic Viking]

1 hour ago, martc said:

Talking of Cuba...

If anyone ends up in Cuba, here's a mystery for them to solve.

Giron IV is a local Cuban bus manufacturer. The bodywork etc of this Giron is almost identical to the Ikarus 200 series, but, apparantly, almost all Girons wear the Hino badges. Are they old Ikarus 200's upgraded with Hino engines? Or a local copy of an Ikarus, with Hino engnes?

You overlooked something

And could they have bought/received the production equipment and drawings from Ikarus?

[MiniMinorMk3]

1 hour ago, martc said:

Talking of Cuba...

If anyone ends up in Cuba, here's a mystery for them to solve.

Giron IV is a local Cuban bus manufacturer. The bodywork etc of this Giron is almost identical to the Ikarus 200 series, but, apparantly, almost all Girons wear the Hino badges. Are they old Ikarus 200's upgraded with Hino engines? Or a local copy of an Ikarus, with Hino engnes?

Bus (bus-planet.com)

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The Girón VI has the same dimensions and capacity as the Girón V but was built using Ikarus 200-series body components. Like the Girón V it is mainly used for non public transport duties.

Lots of info on Cuban buses

Bus (bus-planet.com)

[busmansholiday]

1 hour ago, martc said:

At least one shhep is admiring the chrome clad coach parade at Tan Hill.

Duple Britannia bodied AEC Reliance followed by a Plaxton bodied Bedford SB.

 

[martc]

A packed horse bus about to enter the High Level Bridge on St. Nicholas Street, NuT, circa 1922. The Bridge Hotel can be seen in the background to the left.

[MiniMinorMk3]

[martc]

Quote - 'The former coal yard was also used by bus dealer Ted Brakell to store his second-hand sales stock which included a lot of the former London RTs visible here. The Leyland National is probably an ex Plymouth one as they got rid of most of theirs in the late 1970s.'

Now....

sad face

[artdjones]

On 4/8/2023 at 6:39 PM, MiniMinorMk3 said:

Bus (bus-planet.com)

Lots of info on Cuban buses

Bus (bus-planet.com)

That's my idea of a Cuban bus , the almost indestructible Leyland Olympic. Leyland annoyed the US by selling them to Cuba, and one of the ships carrying 42 of them there sank after a collision. Some have claimed it was a deliberate American inspired act of sabotage.

[High Jetter]

3 hours ago, martc said:

Quote - 'The former coal yard was also used by bus dealer Ted Brakell to store his second-hand sales stock which included a lot of the former London RTs visible here. The Leyland National is probably an ex Plymouth one as they got rid of most of theirs in the late 1970s.'

Now....

sad face

Great comparison! Houses rulez, tho

[Leyland Worldmaster]

Lazy spotting in a Kent village. Haven't seen one in this livery- in service for at least 25 years! 

[cms206]

A pearoast from The Mundane Public Transport Archive on facebook; FPB7 , myself and others have done some scribblings which aren't entirely aimed at the bus spottist. Please do check it out.

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758BC001.

A stardate? A Mercedes partnumber? Neither; but it was a first, and it does - only just, sadly - cling to life.

Plaxtons aging Panorama range had been facelifted several times from it's introduction in the 1950s, morphing into the incredibly handsome Panorama Elite III by the early 70s. Just as Duple's Dominant had replaced the Viceroy 1972, the Panorama's next shapeshift was imminent.

The 1974 Commercial Motorshow saw the introduction of a new model from Scarborough; The Plaxton Panorama Supreme. Initially available only on Bedford's PJK and Bristol's LHS chassis, the 1974 show exhibit was of a composite framed 35-seat Panorama Supreme (Later known as Supreme II) on a Bristol LHS6L chassis which was delivered in late 1974 to Yeowart of Whitehaven in the Lakes as GHH 256N.

It quickly moved on, to Winn Brothers of Brompton, Dobson's of Whickham and then to Flights where it gained cheriahed registration 567 FTG. On disposal in 1990 it became JOK 234N and passed to Summerfield of Southampton, once again re-registered OIB 1084. It passed into non-PSV use in 1991, before returning to use as a PSV with several companies between 1994 and the early 2000s.

Like many midicoaches of it's age and size, it ended up with new age travellers; having been sighted several times in and around RAF Fylingdales in early 2003, 758BC001 had made the trek north to the banks of the Gare Loch where it was last reported in 2003 at the Faslane Peace Camp.

Faslane Peace Camp is still active, with a small community of resident CND activists still peacefully protest at the north gate of HMNB Clyde on a weekly basis. The peace camp itself is home to two former coaches; FIL 8678 is a Plaxton Supreme IV on a Bedford chassis, new to Grindle, Cinderford as AFH 4T - 7911TC114 for the code watchers - while the other is 758BC001, that 1974 motorshow exhibit and first example of Plaxton's new "Panorama Supreme" which became GHH 256N.

It remains largely complete though a local engineering firm on the Rosneath Penninsula disembowelled it for it's Leyland 401 powerplant in very recent years. Otherwise, it remains in the same position it was left in two decades ago, mere feet from the busy A814, watching traffic go by.

Five decades have not been kind to her, but five decades take their toll on most... for now, though, the years continue to tick by for this one time show star in her final resting place.

[martc]

Have I said that I think Ikarus 55's are blinkin' ace?

[Yoss]

If we're going down that road I'd have a Škoda 706.

 

This one's bendy

 

And this one has a separate trailer. 

 

To be honest I have no idea if they are any better than the Ikarus but I am biased. 

[High Jetter]

4 hours ago, martc said:

Have I said that I think Ikarus 55's are blinkin' ace?

Why on earth is Ikarus a good name for transport, considering the greek myth?

[MorrisItalSLX]

On 15/04/2023 at 04:05, cms206 said:

On disposal in 1990 it became JOK 234N

Just five registrations after to the Maserati Merak from Top Gear.

(Yes, it is sad that I recognised the plate.)

[Asimo]

https://www.facebook.com/people/Global-Village-Trucking-Co/100063456394081/?sk=photos

[big_al_granvia]

The 2 at faslane are pretty knackered, having spent time as traveller buses before being driven onto site, could still provide parts for others in preservation

One converted bus that really should be in preservation now is Burnett motorsport 's Ford with duple body, built in the early 60's converted to race bus late 70's and still on the road today. Its home base is just outside cumbernauld. The guys at gvvt in bridgeton are well aware of it

[cms206]

7 hours ago, MorrisItalSLX said:

Just five registrations after to the Maserati Merak from Top Gear.

(Yes, it is sad that I recognised the plate.)

JOK 229N was 1 BOV from new; JOK-N was a re-reg series.

[martc]

20 hours ago, Yoss said:

If we're going down that road I'd have a Škoda 706.

 

This one's bendy

 

And this one has a separate trailer. 

 

To be honest I have no idea if they are any better than the Ikarus but I am biased. 

Yeah, it's a close run thing between the Skoda and the Ikarus, but the '55 just squeezes past for me.

I may also be biased as I nearly came a cropper on my motorbike just after crossing the Czechoslovakian border into Hungary where a Skoda 703 had just disgraced itself by emptying a lot of gear oil (by the smell) onto the road causing a 'moment'. The driver was underneath it with a substantial tool box by his side and the passengers had set up camp on the grass verge.