2009 CashCow - My friends wife's new qashqai

[beko1987]

1 hour ago, GrumpiusMaximus said:

@beko1987 that war plane is a Lancaster bomber.

Yep, this one!

Tons of photos of it on the local fb groups 😂 I was underneath the car slathering rust converter about whilst waiting for epoxy to dry and heard the ground shake as it came over once, then as I wiggled out from under the car I laid flat on the road as it came over again right above me! If it was the early 1940's it'd be terrifying...

[captain_70s]

12 hours ago, beko1987 said:

Spoke to my mate again later on Saturday when I dropped his bits back and he suggested we buzz it mildly flat with his grinder and a wheel, then do another layer of very fine Fibreglass, then underseal it smooth.

I'd be inclined to leave it be given it is hidden. The joy of bodging is that it is relatively low effort and cheap!

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Fibreglass is miserable stuff to work with, although in an enclosed environment the fumes help...

[beko1987]

12 hours ago, captain_70s said:

I'd be inclined to leave it be given it is hidden. The joy of bodging is that it is relatively low effort and cheap!

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Fibreglass is miserable stuff to work with, although in an enclosed environment the fumes help...

It'll want something black and thick spraying over it from underneath, it's a bit visible atm when looking in the right place (with the car on a lift it'll be even more visible) but it doesnt need much more. 

I got away with a nice breezy warm day so little fume problems! I wore my car working clothes so didn't need to wash them after but I left them on the line for 2 days until they didn't smell anymore before I chucked them back in the bottom of my wardrobe 😂

[Dobloseven]

I reckon fibreglassing makes welding look easy!

[andy18s]

If you're not keen on the resin smell then the dust from grinding fibreglass will not help at all,and will find it's way into and onto everything.....

[beko1987]

11 hours ago, andy18s said:

If you're not keen on the resin smell then the dust from grinding fibreglass will not help at all,and will find it's way into and onto everything.....

I don't mind the smell tbh, and the kids said they didn't hate it either when we went out last weekend.

But ive not driven it since 😂 Its been sat locked up in the sun and it's going to stink now... Might go crack the windows open for the day.

We should be able to sand it with all the doors and windows shut on the car so it'll stay outside. I don't think it needs much either tbh, I didn't do it mega thick so it either wants more layers of a finer mesh first or its fine as in and just wants making a bit smoother then smothering in underseal

[sierraman]

End of the day it’s job done. Hole filled, should outlast the car. It’s not like building a McDonalds over the Acropolis, it’s an old car, wholesale restoration to make a repair that’ll last generations isn’t always necessary. 

[beko1987]

44 minutes ago, sierraman said:

End of the day it’s job done. Hole filled, should outlast the car. It’s not like building a McDonalds over the Acropolis, it’s an old car, wholesale restoration to make a repair that’ll last generations isn’t always necessary. 

It needs the eye taking off it from underneath though, once up on a ramp and with a torch you can see quite a lot. 

Just wants all the lost ends of the Fibreglass knocking back then several thick sprays of underseal to smooth it out and hopefully it'll blend right in! It's something I can spray around the wheel well in general to blend* in the repair.

[sierraman]

4 hours ago, beko1987 said:

It needs the eye taking off it from underneath though, once up on a ramp and with a torch you can see quite a lot. 

Just wants all the lost ends of the Fibreglass knocking back then several thick sprays of underseal to smooth it out and hopefully it'll blend right in! It's something I can spray around the wheel well in general to blend* in the repair.

Give it several coats of Hammerite Underbody seal. Only cheap, tenner a tin or whatever. 

[beko1987]

21 minutes ago, sierraman said:

Give it several coats of Hammerite Underbody seal. Only cheap, tenner a tin or whatever. 

Looks utterly evil, like it'll stink and be more messy than the epoxy 😂

Just the job though. I've been painting rust converter and mildly wire brushing all the rear suspension and subframe stuff I can see as I go and probably won't do much more before the mot, incase it is fucked, he needs to find it but if it does pass that's what I want to pour all over the bottom arms and etc 👌

[sierraman]

Cheaper than that on trade at Halfords. Tetroseal do an even more cheaper one. Paste it on then take it down a really dusty gritty road and it’ll cake on thick, over it and not stick out. 

[wuvvum]

I've used that Hammerite underseal before, it's good stuff.  You can trowel it on proper thick if you need to. 

[beko1987]

One issue I've been having hasn't been the cars fault, but my little halfords trolley jack! It doesn't lift the car high enough, or rather to lift the car enough to get the mahoosive 17" wheel and tyre back on its at its max lift, pointing nearly dead vertical and makes very scary creaking sounds 😂

So I've bought one of these

https://ebay.us/m/U9W1ab

Hopefully it's got just that extra little bit of lift it needs, and it won't be a near 15 year old Jack that I've left out in the rain alot over the years...

This means I can do my rear pads and rear caliper check/cleanup a bit more happily now! Not much else I want to do before the mot now though, the rear pads are mainly because the passenger side caliper isn't pushing the pads on at the same time as the drivers side, I can play with it and feel the brake only on one side then with a bigger tug i feel the other side bite on. Hoping new pads and a general clean up of the caliper will do, nothing looks like it's been under the sea but something isn't right.

Ordered a tin of that slop too. Need to double check but I'm not tempted to layer any more Fibreglass, just a vague sand down then slop over it should do

[beko1987]

My jack came!

I got parked on the road just now coming home from work so Ill get changed and give it a go!

[beko1987]

NAE BOTHER!

Leaving it to sit for 5 mins incase it blows it's arse out and I can return it otherwise this is far better than my old jack!

 

[beko1987]

And whilst the jack worked so well, and I'd got parked nicely on the road, with about 5 hours of daylight left, let's do the rear pads!

First off, I removed and promptly poked into the hub the handbrake adjuster cover. The handbrake is drums on this, running inside rhe brake disc. I gave it 2 turns downwards, and it tested OK from the car. I then fought the bottom pad carrier bolt for 20 minutes

But won eventually. Had to hammer it out of the slider in the end

There's a mega handy caliper shelf on here! The slider pins were a bit dirty

Rear pad was almost worn right out, front had life left

Wafted stuff over the wire wheel

Then refitted, glad I bought these pads the other month now!

I then had 5 minutes with a wire brush and screwdriver all over the rear arm that's usually hidden behind the wheel

And brushed/poured over rust converter on the whole thing!

Flipped the car round so the other side isn't on the road and once I've had a drink and cooled down it'll be copy+paste on the drivers side. 

That was also the 4th and last wheel I've had off the car 🎊

[320touring]

Doing good preventative and remedial work on this man, keep it up!

[beko1987]

Thanks! I don't think it's had any maintenance, preventative or otherwise for a while... On the driver's side

the bottom bolt came out fine, it was the top ones turn to need a good hammering to come out. Being the top though I almost could have ignored it and just changed the pads...

Pads weren't so worn  but the sliders were at stuck. Note the prescense of a rubber bit on the end of one here... I think this stuck in the passenger side and didn't come out... Hopefully the brake clean then fresh grease the pin got refitted with made it slide back onto the pin 🤞🤷

Question, is not having a brake backing plate an mot fail? This was held on with 3 spots of rust 😬

Did more slooshing incase it helps, it probably won't...

Brakes seem to work fine, the handbrake isn't pulling on one side (as obviously) now, so when I next drive it (which could be next week now, I can skive at home Thursday) I'll see if it cleans the rear discs up a tad.

 

[warch]

I've owned several moderns (Golf and in fact my Qashqai) with knackered or non existent brake back plates, none of which has ever fazed my MoT man. 

Ironically the back plates on my 1985 Astra are in mint condition.

[beko1987]

1 minute ago, warch said:

I've owned several moderns (Golf and in fact my Qashqai) with knackered or non existent brake back plates, none of which has ever fazed my MoT man. 

Ironically the back plates on my 1985 Astra are in mint condition.

Their like cornflakes around the entire car, I've never seen ones so bad on anything else I've owned! The passenger side is held on more securely, hopefully I've solved a little knock now I've ripped the drivers side out. It can't  make the brakes more crusty than they are 👌

[AnnoyingPentium]

Had one of the cars eject the dust shield at speed and it got stuck in the wheel. Funny* sensation, like. Took it to the garage as I had no idea what it was, my mechanic (also MOT tester) just ripped it out. It's been fine since.

[wuvvum]

I had to replace the rotten dust shields on the back of the Merc but that's because the brake shoe retaining springs hook into them.  Otherwise I never normally bother. 

[beko1987]

7 hours ago, wuvvum said:

I had to replace the rotten dust shields on the back of the Merc but that's because the brake shoe retaining springs hook into them.  Otherwise I never normally bother. 

I recall reading about @Talbot cutting the backing plate up then welding it back together on his/a merc, but through neccessity as you say, rather than wanting them replaced. Mine do nothing bar be backing plates so I'll assume that will be fine

[warch]

1 hour ago, beko1987 said:

I recall reading about @Talbot cutting the backing plate up then welding it back together on his/a merc, but through neccessity as you say, rather than wanting them replaced. Mine do nothing bar be backing plates so I'll assume that will be fine

Yeah they do naff all on Qashqais apart from presenting a tetanus hazard. 

 

[Rust Collector]

3 minutes ago, warch said:

Yeah they do naff all on Qashqais apart from presenting a tetanus hazard. 

 

It’s funny you say that, as the other day my hand slipped whilst working on the XM and a jagged piece of rusty disc shield punched a slot clean through my thumbnail and straight into the nail bed. Fuck me did that hurt 🤣

[wuvvum]

1 hour ago, beko1987 said:

I recall reading about @Talbot cutting the backing plate up then welding it back together on his/a merc

If said Merc was anything like mine then presumably that was because to fit the new back plates "properly" you need to have the wheel bearing pressed out and then pressed back in again, so most people (myself included) cut a slot in the back plates and wangle them round the hub.  I didn't weld mine back together because they're held in by four bolts (two either side of the slot) so they're rigid enough as they are, but some people do weld them up afterwards.

[Talbot]

7 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

If said Merc was anything like mine then presumably that was because to fit the new back plates "properly" you need to have the wheel bearing pressed out and then pressed back in again, so most people (myself included) cut a slot in the back plates and wangle them round the hub.  I didn't weld mine back together because they're held in by four bolts (two either side of the slot) so they're rigid enough as they are, but some people do weld them up afterwards.

It was exactly that.  I wasn't comfortable not welding them back together, as they do go rather floppy when only held with two bolts per section.

@beko1987 I bet you're beginning to regret changing from the Xsara now!  Is the new owner likely to make an appearance here?

[vaughant]

40 minutes ago, Talbot said:

It was exactly that.  I wasn't comfortable not welding them back together, as they do go rather floppy when only held with two bolts per section.

@beko1987 I bet you're beginning to regret changing from the Xsara now!  Is the new owner likely to make an appearance here?

But then you are REALLY good at welding to be fair 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻.

I bought a second hand leg for my S202 piece of shit estate as the hub threads were fucked on mine and the wheel bearing ate itself into it. The brake backing plates were so clean on it, I swear they were brand new but no, totally original 😧 😧 😧.

I didn't even know the original had them until I found a few rusty torx bolts where they would have originally been 🤭🤭🤭.

[beko1987]

1 hour ago, Talbot said:

 

@beko1987 I bet you're beginning to regret changing from the Xsara now!  Is the new owner likely to make an appearance here?

In some ways yes! It wasn't this crusty overall, and faster too...

The new owner posted once on my original thread, seems happy with it, hopefully they get it through the next mot with the airbag light... They repaired the suspension too which is a good omen

Brake backing plates on this is a hub apart job I think, and looking at the state of those bolts that's not happening 🤣 A quick glance saw the rears really bloody expensive too, £50+ each for pattern parts 😬

[beko1987]

26 minutes ago, vaughant said:

But then you are REALLY good at welding to be fair 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻.

I bought a second hand leg for my S202 piece of shit estate as the hub threads were fucked on mine and the wheel bearing ate itself into it. The brake backing plates were so clean on it, I swear they were brand new but no, totally original 😧 😧 😧.

I didn't even know the original had them until I found a few rusty torx bolts where they would have originally been 🤭🤭🤭.

That would probably be the easiest and cheapest solution tbh, a whole semi decent back corner from a scrapper and fit the lot! Still far more effort than the cars worth though