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Here's a good one...

The Clarkson, Hammond and May era of Top Gear was not only by far and away the best incarnation of the show, it was also the best motoring themed mainstream TV show ever.
Also, Jeremy Clarkson is a hugely knowledgeable motoring journalist.

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5 minutes ago, yes oui si said:

The cars with K-series engines I've driven have all been nippy and responsive, and you can see why so many engine tuners love them... But it doesn't matter how good the engineering is if you're going to let brummies build them.Ā 

You'd think, but the tolerancesĀ  they were builtĀ  to and the fact that all the layers , most gasketless didn't give more problemsĀ  and the bhp/litre efficiency that they gave, along with the influence Honda had on the company at the time meant they were way ahead of the game on build too. Just a pity they didn't realise this in 76 with the SD1....Ā  I was just leafing through a What Car from 1991- cars of the year. Rover cleaned up in quite a few categories. They really were a viable company at that time.

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1 minute ago, Barry Cade said:

You'd think, but the tolerancesĀ  they were builtĀ  to and the fact that all the layers , most gasketless didn't give more problemsĀ  and the bhp/litre efficiency that they gave, along with the influence Honda had on the company at the time meant they were way ahead of the game on build too. Just a pity they didn't realise this in 76 with the SD1....Ā  I was just leafing through a What Car from 1991- cars of the year. Rover cleaned up in quite a few categories. They really were a viable company at that time.

Absolutely a design ahead of its time, and I wouldn't dispute that.Ā 

Worth noting that they were put in cars and sold to people who treated them like an A Series or Pinto. A friend's dad had a Rover dealership at the time of launch and despite giving customers the 'this is a modern engine that needs to be treated well' spiel along with care instructions, they got kettled regularly.Ā 

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10 minutes ago, yes oui si said:

Absolutely a design ahead of its time, and I wouldn't dispute that.Ā 

Worth noting that they were put in cars and sold to people who treated them like an A Series or Pinto. A friend's dad had a Rover dealership at the time of launch and despite giving customers the 'this is a modern engine that needs to be treated well' spiel along with care instructions, they got kettled regularly.Ā 

Mind you. Pintos used to eat camshafts.... because the oil hadn't been changed for 30k and the spray bar was blocked..Ā 

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Oh hereā€™s one - Citroen 2CVs are as good as the sum of their parts - a weedy lawnmower engine bolted to a number of pieces of corrugated iron with a few deckchairs sprinkled inside.

Having bought a nice example I couldnā€™t wait to offload it asap the first time I took it out of a 30mph zone - where it went from being a hilarious clown car on the corners and roundabouts to a terrifying instrument of torture.

I managed to double my money by selling it to some nutter in Malaysia in the end!

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Renault Clio 172/182s are overrated.

Based on my 2 year ownership experience of one which had received a lot of mechanical attention before I bought it:

- Horribly rust prone.Ā 

- Totally unreliable. The basic engine is very robust but everything else is utter dug meat. Injectors, sensors, etc are a constant worry.

- Shady electrics

- Shite build quality

- ...and above all, not that fast. An average mid-range 1.8/2 litre car can keep up with them in a straight line.

EVERYTHING went wrong with mine in the 2 years I had it. Injectors, coolant leaks, PAS leaks, earths. It was also hugely rotten and I fucked it off during Covid when my hand went through the outrigger and sill.

'Old car' is no excuse as I have had about ten other cars since then of a similar age and all have by and large been easy to live with.Ā 

Also, it was a big disappointment after my truly excellent 2001 MK1 Megane which was none of the above things. Even though it was just a 1.4 it was actually quite nippy and both fun to drive and supremely comfortable.Ā  I never had any bother with it.

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1 hour ago, Dj_efk said:

Oh hereā€™s one - Citroen 2CVs are as good as the sum of their parts - a weedy lawnmower engine bolted to a number of pieces of corrugated iron with a few deckchairs sprinkled inside.

Having bought a nice example I couldnā€™t wait to offload it asap the first time I took it out of a 30mph zone - where it went from being a hilarious clown car on the corners and roundabouts to a terrifying instrument of torture.

I managed to double my money by selling it to some nutter in Malaysia in the end!

I owned one for 24 hours, didnt drive it just bought it and sold it on for a tidy profit!

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10 hours ago, Barry Cade said:

Mind you. Pintos used to eat camshafts.... because the oil hadn't been changed for 30k and the spray bar was blocked..Ā 

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3 hours ago, Dobloseven said:

But changing them was a Saturday morning job and the Asian run motor spares shops in the shopping parades kept them on the shelf!

We sold them at MDC and upsold them to anyone buying oil and a filter for a Pinto.

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2 hours ago, Spiny Norman said:

Electric cars are a folly, a blind avenue we're being led down in a bid to sell more profitable cars.

This. They aren't eco friendly beyond the local area to where they're being driven - even if the electricity used is 100% renewable. And unless you only ever charge at home, they're a pain. An expensive pain.

Spoken as someone who owns one.

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