vaughant Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Has anyone been watching it? It's a Brinks Mat cling on but isn't too bad however I've been thoroughly enjoying the car porn related around it, even though a lot of it is period incorrect like the main characters driving a curvy shape Mk3 Granada in 1983 and a Mk 4 Orion on a Y plate but there's a lot of other really nice stuff in it. The ABS appears to work well on the Granada after all this time as well in one scene 🤣🤣🤣. They do all seem to be actually driving the cars as well rather than bouncing about on the back of a flatbed turning the wheel like Z Cars. Worth a look. Plenty of SD1'S, Cortinas, even the street furniture cars are pretty period as well. Story seems relatively accurate too, well for a BBC documentary. eddyramrod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyramrod Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I'm glad someone else noticed those two Fords! This site really needs to be marketed as a consultancy for period cars, we would easily eliminate these millennial errors! Formula Autos and chaseracer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timolloyd Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I’m enjoying it but there are a lot of cars of the wrong age. There was even a P6 police car in the first episode. Surely the police weren’t still using those in 1983? eddyramrod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 The story isn’t accurate at all. I can’t understand why they’ve renamed people that were convicted of it such as Michael Relton, yet named others such as Gordon Parry. Banger Kenny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggersdog Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I watched the whole series on iPlayer . Yes some of the cars weren't quite right at the beginning but it stretched to 1986 for some of the gang to appear in court. The soundtrack was similar, Temptation by New Order wasn't released until 1986 but was played on an early episode. I enjoyed it . Some great 80's chod and great music. Echo and the bunnymen, The Fall, Gang of Four and The Smiths. What's not to like. Matty and grogee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniMinorMk3 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 56 minutes ago, meggersdog said: , Temptation by New Order wasn't released until 1986 Temptation was released in May 82. meggersdog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggersdog Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, MiniMinorMk3 said: Temptation was released in May 82. thought it was '86.... sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniMinorMk3 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, meggersdog said: thought it was '86.... sorry They rerecorded/remixed it in 1987 for the compilation album Substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Supposedly in the original raid, Tony White attended in a beige Avenger Estate and Brian Robinson was a Renault botherer, not sure which one but it wasn’t a new one so I suspect it was a 16. Tony Black the guard had an Opel Manta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I see a T12 style Nissan Bluebird on their tonight on a A plate and the same blue Mazda 323 pop up 3 different types as a background car. Ohdearme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R114 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Watched a few episodes so far. I like spotting the inaccuracies. I find it interesting what they put effort into recreating, yet some areas they let slip. Some others I noticed that spring to mind: Rear of a Mk3 (or 4) Police Transit in the first episode. The Mk3 Granada already mentioned displaying a B registration on it, yet the scene was not long after the robbery, so early 1984. The man opening the modern looking UPVC window of the grotty flat to climb out of and escape. LED light panels in one of the gold shops. They all seem to have an identical cordless phone, that has admirable range. The Samsung ring tone going off in the background of a Tenerife scene. Entertains me more looking out for these things than trying to follow the storyline! timolloyd and mk2_craig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzy Woking Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Biggest error that pissed me off (so much so I didn't watch all of the first episode)? A standard gold bar (those held as gold reserves by central banks and traded among bullion dealers) weighs 400 troy ounces/12.4 kilograms/27.33 pounds. The characters pick them up like they weigh the same as a packet of biscuits. horriblemercedes, Banger Kenny, Low Horatio gearbox and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorpunk Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Like @Jerzy Woking and @timolloyd mentioned already - the P6 and the weighless gold bars stood out for me, along with the complete lack of heat from the smelter. There was a LOT of stuff pinched from Ashes to Ashes - locations, actors and so on, but as that's one of my fave ever TV series I really didn't mind. I loved it, overall, and would love to see more of it instead of celebrity baking masked dancing on ice pottery sewathon featuring Rylan and other squealing simpletons. Here's another one. This show was only a pilot, but is a funny, happy daft thing that I cannot recommend enough - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00118tt LT84, grogee and trigger 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregZX Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 My wife hates it when I point out car anachronisms. We went to see “Empire of Light” the other week and they got the early 80s pretty much spot on although the same Marina was spotted on a number of occasions. Something that I found particularly strange and perhaps lazy was the registration of Ian Huntley’s red MK3 Fiesta in the recent drama about Soham. It was a weird jumble of letters and numbers and as a car geek kinda took me out of the drama. I’ve no idea why they couldn’t just have used a normal registration. ITV dramas do feel a bit cheap though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timolloyd Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Good shout, I remember seeing that reg and thinking it was odd. My theory is that the actual reg was highly publicised at the time. Maybe the producers can’t trace the car, so they needed to avoid any kind of morbid search for the vehicle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraWomble Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Everything was TOO shiny, undented and un rusty. But aside from that, it was a good series. Banger Kenny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyramrod Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 And this is exactly where AS comes in! We can do dented and rusty! And, crucially, period-correct! puddlethumper, Joey spud and Banger Kenny 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 On 2/20/2023 at 9:11 AM, motorpunk said: Like @Jerzy Woking and @timolloyd mentioned already - the P6 and the weighless gold bars stood out for me, along with the complete lack of heat from the smelter. The heat from the smelter is a good point, and it seems to be in a wooden hut! I work with molten material and very high temperature ashes daily using muffle ovens, ashing furnaces and tube furnaces. There's no way you can casually stand over them feeding in the raw material. One of our labs is 20 feet long and, if stood at one end, and some one opens the door of the ashing furnace at the other, you can instantly feel the heat.... (incidently all our high temp furnaces are made by Carbolite in Hope, near Sheffield. They are the top manufacturer of this sort of kit, and the silica crucibles are by Almath in Newmarket, but, of course, we don't make anything in the UK now-a-days). I didn't catch the Reg No of the P6, but considering they stopped making them in 1977 and The Gold is set in 1983, it may only be 6 years old - not unfeasible that it would still be in service. Shite Ron, Banger Kenny, timolloyd and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 It was an Alcosa smelter in a breeze block shed perhaps 8x12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_ZTT Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/20/2023 at 9:11 AM, motorpunk said: Here's another one. This show was only a pilot, but is a funny, happy daft thing that I cannot recommend enough - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00118tt I meant to watch that Mammoth pilot before but clearly missed it, hopefully it'll come round again A highlight of recent years for me is White Gold, 80s-set comedy series about double-glazing salesmen, there are some good cars in it too - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p050hrdx - annoyingly it's gone off iplayer as they sold it to one of the streaming services, Netflix I think has it now motorpunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorpunk Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 7 hours ago, Dan_ZTT said: I meant to watch that Mammoth pilot before but clearly missed it, hopefully it'll come round again A highlight of recent years for me is White Gold, 80s-set comedy series about double-glazing salesmen, there are some good cars in it too - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p050hrdx - annoyingly it's gone off iplayer as they sold it to one of the streaming services, Netflix I think has it now That was a cracker. I always wanted them to follow up with a story about used car dealers in the '80s, the characters would have been perfect for that. I think the lead actor was accused of some unpleasantness with an actress, or something, which might have killed the whole thing. I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_ZTT Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, motorpunk said: That was a cracker. I always wanted them to follow up with a story about used car dealers in the '80s, the characters would have been perfect for that. I think the lead actor was accused of some unpleasantness with an actress, or something, which might have killed the whole thing. I could be wrong. He was but then it was all dropped, it delayed them making the second series, difficult situation all round I suppose. Seems like they've decided not to do a third anyway though which is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort1977 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Also bored my wife pointing out the vehicle errors while watching this. Not too bad a series but I'm not buying the 'them and us' narrative that seems to be trying to portray Kenneth Noye as some kind of class-conscious Marxist redistributing wealth by alternative means. He is a proper wrong 'un who stabbed a copper multiple times and then another man in a road rage incident a few years later. Shite Ron, 5speedracer, motorpunk and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timolloyd Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Agreed. I think he came out of it a bit like the Krays - a sort-of cheeky 60s character. Must be pretty devastating for the family of the guy he killed on the motorway, to see him given all this air time. mk2_craig and Shite Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_FM Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, timolloyd said: Agreed. I think he came out of it a bit like the Krays - a sort-of cheeky 60s character. Must be pretty devastating for the family of the guy he killed on the motorway, to see him given all this air time. I remember one article around the time Noye was sent down that was based around interviews of people who knew him. Even when young he was a headcase, doing things like punching other boys at school hard in the face just for a laugh, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wack Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/19/2023 at 8:11 AM, eddyramrod said: I'm glad someone else noticed those two Fords! This site really needs to be marketed as a consultancy for period cars, we would easily eliminate these millennial errors! I'd think a lot of it comes down to they're supposed to be new cars so finding suitable cars that are available to be rented and driven and don't look full of filler sprayed with aerosols must be quite hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I mean ultimately he’s been out now for a few years, having served 20 odd years for murder, were it not such a high profile case people would have said that he’s served his time. He appears to have kept his nose clean, which given he’s on a lifetime licence is no surprise. As far as I’m aware the only ones still alive are the solicitor, Gordon Parry and Kenneth Noye. They seem to have glossed over Tony White as well that was arrested but acquitted but nevertheless still fled to Spain. Curious as well as to why they’ve missed Brian Perry out, him getting nobbled in 2001 was integral to the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmsguzzi Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 2/19/2023 at 3:30 PM, MiniMinorMk3 said: They rerecorded/remixed it in 1987 for the compilation album Substance. They used the Substance rerecording in the episode weirdly so I guess Meggarsdog was half right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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