vaughant Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 59 minutes ago, DoctorRetro said: It can get expensive this lark can't it? 😳 Still imagine the garage bill for all the work 😳😳😳😳. Plus it's NICE to have the good lights and so on but not essential. And again, this is your first rodeo with welding, most of the bits will last for years, tub of seam sealer will last ages, the galvanic spray the same. We've all been there with a table lamp run out into the street via 10 extension leads trying to change an alternator or the like laying in a drain in the rain (or is that just me 🤔🤔) but I think as time goes on it gets to a point where things like PPE, lighting, warmth/dryness become almost as imperative as getting the job done well in good time. That galvanic spray is a must though bud, otherwise all that work will be pretty much for nothing, you'll see the rust coming back through almost immediately. Put it this way, I bought some gates for the front of my house and the apparently galvanised fittings for them lasted maybe a month before I noticed a bit of surface rust on them, went back offshore, came home 3 weeks later, rusting everywhere. Flapper disced them clean, sprayed a load of that on it, still on my gates 7 years later and nothing has come through. Seam sealer will hide all ills with your welding as well and has the affect as the cold galvanic listed above. I still think finished nicely there's a decent car there and even a profit to be made but above all else keeping something like that on the road will be a really cool thing to do. Also you know mechanically it will be a cinch to work on. Shite Ron and chodweaver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 11:46 AM, juular said: Being wary of it isn't a bad thing, but it's still probably* statistically safer than actually driving a car. ..Until you get all blasé after using one for years and run it right up at your face without the guard or goggles on.. In my experience the handle is more important than the guard. It's not the bits of disc and metal flying around I worry about, it's when it jams and snatches that things get ugly. Grinder chat (not the app): They are scary to me but I use one. I have now invested in a fetching leather apron because my wire wheel & grinder got snagged in my t-shirt around my tummy. Fortunately it is Screwfix's cheapest grinder so it didn't have the power to tear the t-shirt material and I just have an appendix-style scar to show for it. I now also have ear defenders because I got sick of putting greasy ear plugs in (too lazy to wash hands before scrunching them up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bezzabsa Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 a skill I always wanted to master....Congrats on getting stuck in!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorRetro Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 I think this is how it's done ... 🤷 Minimad5, 3VOM, 500tops and 30 others 33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juular Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 It's not an exaggeration to say it's an investment. Forgetting the car for a minute, you're learning a skill in demand that will pay for itself if you wanted to. Conversely a single welding job at a garage would eclipse everything you've bought so far. The biggest benefit in my eyes is that you can look at cars on sale passed over by everyone else because they need welding, either saving yourself a fortune or allowing you to get hold of cars previously way out of your reach. A 10k car that needs welding suddenly becomes a 2k car if you see what I mean. Erebus, chodweaver, BlankFrank and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juular Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 minute ago, DoctorRetro said: I think this is how it's done ... 🤷 Did you fold that yourself? It looks brilliant! DoctorRetro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughant Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, DoctorRetro said: I think this is how it's done ... 🤷 Immense work!!!!!! DoctorRetro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorRetro Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, juular said: Did you fold that yourself? It looks brilliant! Yep. Used mole grips and gradual bending for the lip, and an aerosol can for the curve Yoss, adw1977, Dr_Slow and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorRetro Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 Just some minor adjustments needed. I feel so fucking lost though, wish I had some in person guidance/support. AndyW201, mercedade, RayMK and 17 others 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod/b Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 That looks alright that. Just wang it on and see how you get on. What’s the worse that could happen? You got any magnets to hold it in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Just some minor adjustments needed. I feel so fucking lost though, wish I had some in person guidance/support. Looks like you're doing just fine. Confidence comes with practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffy Bodger Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Nice bit of fabrication that https://workshopping.co.uk/chemical-products/aerosols/paint-aerosols/primer-aerosols/sealey-scs034s-grey-zinc-primer-paint-500ml?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIleOw76Tj8wIV0rvVCh0uGwcIEAQYASABEgLTWfD_BwE I used some of that on the inside areas on the Connect, it doesn't seem to fuck with the weld at all, maybe worth getting some so your repairs last? Are you using both hands when doing your spots? Support your non trigger arm on something and it should help with your accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, DoctorRetro said: I feel so fucking lost though, wish I had some in person guidance/support. Worse case you can cut it out and do it again. Unlike wood working, it's easy to add more if too much is removed. Anyhow you've got enough guidance here to not really need anymore. Quickest way of learning is being thrown in the deep end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorRetro Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 I'm really shit at this 🤣 HarmonicCheeseburger, Dr_Slow, Sir Chocolate Teapot and 27 others 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozeydustman Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Don't knock yourself down; this is all good stuff and far better than my attempts at welding in the past! As long as the structure is sound and the weld doesn't break off doesn't matter if it looks like metallic bird poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shite Ron Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 It looks good to me, I’ve seen far worse jobs done by garages which is why I started welding myself. Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juular Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 That looks alright! If you want to make it super neat weld over the top of it to fill in the holes then flap disc it back. TABF - my mantra (There's always body filler) Scruffy Bodger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyarddog Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, DoctorRetro said: I'm really shit at this 🤣 No you aren't, that patch is really nicely made,and while the welding isn't pretty it doesn't look like it's going to fall off, you can add a bit of filler to smooth off the repair. Don't forget to waxoyl the rear of the repair as it will rust out again extremely quickly if you don't. Well done,that's really good work. mk2_craig, Jim Bell, neil1971 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw118 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 @DoctorRetro you're doing great, those welds are eleventy times better than I used to manage on the ba**ers, using that welder; twas either blown through of just blobby. A bad workman always blames his tools etc, you're just proving that I'm the tool in this scenario. Keep going Chuff. mk2_craig and DoctorRetro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorRetro Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 Oh, it's definitely solid. I need to get seam sealer, primer and waxoyl, so just blasted some paint over for now. Bit of filler and it'll be fine. MOT worthy at least GMcD, angle, outlaw118 and 27 others 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, DoctorRetro said: I'm really shit at this 🤣 That is brilliant. My first attempt was joining some exhaust pieces and it was way worse than that. I've seen much, much worse come out of commercial garages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 It's a stronger and an actual repair rather than filler. GingerNuttz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughant Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, DoctorRetro said: Oh, it's definitely solid. I need to get seam sealer, primer and waxoyl, so just blasted some paint over for now. Bit of filler and it'll be fine. MOT worthy at least Genuinely chuffed for you mate, you've done a fab job, just got stuck in and sorted it. Putting the paint on to for now is a wise move. As my fellow contractor and I used to say in Honda, there's no point being the best welder if you're the worst grinder and luckily for me I was ok to poor at welding but fucking great at grinding and sealing 😏😏😏😏. I did an OK bit of welding once on quite a complex job in there on a post that needed re-jigging however once welded it looked OK but not pretty. I used e-metal, 3 bond, a load of sanding and a really great paint job and to be fair it looked fucking great, so much so the other shift who thought they were the world's greatest welders thought we'd had the local fabrication form in to do it. Thank fuck they never poked the lovely paint too hard 🤭🤭🤭🤭. GrumpiusMaximus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 You could probably grind that back a bit more to make it neater. I find a grinding disc helps more than a flap disc at times. Or get yourself a finger/power file sander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughant Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, DoctorRetro said: I need to get seam sealer, AND LOADS OF COLD GALVANIC SPRAY TO RETAIN THOSE SOLID WELDS I'VE JUST COMPLETED. EFA. 17 minutes ago, DoctorRetro said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Slow Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Epic work @DoctorRetro! DoctorRetro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan302 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I think you are doing brilliantly and as the others have said you are learning such a useful skill. Keep up the great work!! DoctorRetro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_lihp Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 This is quite inspiring stuff to be honest, I've thought about it before and never got around to actually trying - you're proving that it's always worth having a go. I've seen much worse "MOT" repairs underneath on some of the heaps I've had in the past! Dr_Slow, chodweaver and DoctorRetro 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bell Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Well done man. Like other people have said, it looks well enough. You should be proud of yourself. Tenmil Socket, DoctorRetro and binhoker668 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerNuttz Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Turned out great for a first attempt, that sill panel is bang on 👍 Did you enjoy or hate the welding process then ? DoctorRetro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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