The grumpy thread

[Station]

Ernest Borgnine Rest In P ... NO NO NO IT'S NOT CAR WELATED:

 

http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.c ... ead=132710

 

[autofive]

no one rides Shack's train for free.......

[cort16]

^^lol, I'm going to live until I'm 168.

[Negative Creep]

Anaesthetic has worn off, which now means I'm in a fair amount of pain and can't eat anything. On the plus side, I do have a day off tomrrow

[Cavcraft]

'How much do you want for the car?'

 

The price is on the advert.

 

'I haven't seen the advert'

 

How did you get my number then?

 

{pause} What is lowest price?

 

What is your highest price?

 

{cough, nervous laugh} erm just tell me best you can do.

 

Come and look at it and make me an offer.

 

'It sounds like nice car I would buy it'

 

How much are you offering?

 

'I've seen newer ones cheaper'

 

Well you can either go and buy one then or come and see mine, realise it's one of the better ones and make me an offer when you get here.

 

'I'll text you my best price in a minute'

 

What's the fucking point in that, why didn't he just offer me a price over the phone ffs?

[cobblers]

 

{pause} What is lowest price?

 

What is your highest price?

 

I'll remember that one.

[Parky]

I won some steel wheels for my Bini earlier - no tyres but 4 steel wheels which I could use for winter tyres (or even just non run flats).

 

I got 4 wheels for three pound twenty and the seller was about three miles away. Shortly after paying I got a note confirming my payment had been returned as she had sold them last week and relisted them accidentally. Why not remove the ad beforehand? Personally I reckon she wanted a lot more then three quid. If they get relisted I will get onto the bay and neg that bint.

 

Neg them anyway stating what happened. If you put something like 'Mini steel wheels, seller refused to sell at end price' that should knacker them up if they try and relist them anyhow.

 

 

Unbelievably the silly bint relisted them an hour later and immediately closed the sale for £30. Whats with that? First she sells them for £22, then "accidentally" relists and gets my £3.20 final bid, and then sells them again instantly for £30?? WTF? I checked her out and by sheer fluke she works for one of my companies counterparties. I can see them getting a bit less business going forward on the grounds that their staff are "ethically unsound".

[Cavcraft]

It could be something that happened to me recently. I bid late one on a BMW Mini alloy wheel (I kid you not) which was badly advertised. I was the only bidder so shyster/inbfred seller messages me saying 'sorry, wheel been sold'.

Knocked out a reply saying 'No it wasn't, it was on eBay, it ended when it should have and I'm the highest and only bidder'. Few minutes later I checked his eBay profile so I could grab his name and add it to my blocked bidder list and I notice he'd relisted the wheel for (lots) more money then within minutes put on the advert 'sold do not bid'.

H still kep saying he'd sold it and to check the (new) advert thinking I was thick so I just got bored and negged him. I do have him on my favourite sellers list though so next time he advertises something badly again I'll be bidding on it last minute.

[Parky]

The annoying thing is if she'd said she wanted a bit more I'd have been happy to go up a bit. She was including a couple of tyres and some trims which I didnt want so if she'd let me have the wheels for £20 she could have sold the part worns separately for extra moolah. Still, there will be others I am sure.

[autofive]

The annoying thing is if she'd said she wanted a bit more I'd have been happy to go up a bit. She was including a couple of tyres and some trims which I didnt want so if she'd let me have the wheels for £20 she could have sold the part worns separately for extra moolah. Still, there will be others I am sure.

 

 

sounds like: 'just noticed you only got 3.20 for the wheels, i ll give you 30 quid if you relist them"

 

neg the bitch and call her a liar

[Parky]

Neg'd her for that. Doubt she will be bothered but ultimately I cant force her to sell the item and I'm not interested in getting in an email war with some dopey girl from Rainham. I will however be asking her "Have you actually got the item, and will you sell it for the end auction price? Just noticed you've pulled out a couple of times in the past" for every item she sells from now on. At least until I get bored.......

[Pete-M]

I'm busily thinking of inventive and amusing ways to kill the 604.

 

Once again, it's not going to sell. I can just sense it. If it doesn't, I'm gonna do something very spectacular with it that'll involve a huge amount of Peugeot devastation and destruction. There will be nothing left. Ideally, destroy it to sub-atomic levels. I'll have to film it, obviously, and then I'll have the enjoyment of being called a cunt by 'classic car fans' on forums all over the place for not offering it to 'classic car folk'... Because it's not been offered for sale anywhere like. Oh no, just Car and Classic, Ebay (three times), Pistonheads, Classic and Sportscar, Retro Rides (ebay section, admittedly), PC and Classic Car Weekly.

 

Fucking unbelievable "That's cheap at £1500" say the classic folk, I list it at £1500, nothing. It ain't going for any less, I will destroy it if it doesn't fetch the money, and no, there'll be fuck all left other than the spare front valance Phil DNJ wants. Possibly the alloys will survive.

 

Never again will I save something old and obscure from destruction. What's the fucking point? The thing owes me well over £2k and I may as well have just set fire to the fucking cash.

 

Peugeot, you have 15 hours and 48 minutes left to live, and counting.

[sporty-shite]

Thing is, I'm not sure if the house is currently occupied. But a note is definitely worth a try. If he has died I reckon I'd get a call from some solicitor armed with printouts from inflated Ebay auctions which would mean it would be priced way above my meagre budget. But rather that then see it scrapped, definitely.

 

Have you tried getting in touch with the estate agent? See if they'll pass a message to the old boy or his family saying you want to save the car before it ends up vandalised or, worse still, the garage gets torched. Must be worth a go?

[Parky]

Peter, it's an odd suggestion but have you thought about upping the price? There might be a 604 perv out there who thinks that if it's only 1200 quid it can't be that good, etc. what have you got to lose? Or....

 

1. paint it up like the Starsky and Hutch car and go an a banger rally

2. Tell Top Gear it's rubbish and let them drop a piano on it

3. Pop a VW badge on the grill, sand the paint off it, install roof rack of scrap and sell it to the V Dubbers for mega coin

4. Didn't Fred Transit run a film cars agency? Something left field like the Pug is tailor made for a tough uncompromising ex SAS private detective who takes no prisoners, etc etc. Or Gene Hunt could ram it into the Thames......

[Cavcraft]

I'd find the next classic car auction going and put it into that with a relatively low reserve.

[Des]

I'm busily thinking of inventive and amusing ways to kill the 604.

 

Once again, it's not going to sell. I can just sense it. If it doesn't, I'm gonna do something very spectacular with it that'll involve a huge amount of Peugeot devastation and destruction. There will be nothing left. Ideally, destroy it to sub-atomic levels. I'll have to film it, obviously, and then I'll have the enjoyment of being called a cunt by 'classic car fans' on forums all over the place for not offering it to 'classic car folk'... Because it's not been offered for sale anywhere like. Oh no, just Car and Classic, Ebay (three times), Pistonheads, Classic and Sportscar, Retro Rides (ebay section, admittedly), PC and Classic Car Weekly.

 

Fucking unbelievable "That's cheap at £1500" say the classic folk, I list it at £1500, nothing. Try again at £1200 nothing. Now the reserve is at a grand and although it's close, it ain't close enough. It ain't going for any less, I will destroy it if it doesn't fetch a grand, and no, there'll be fuck all left other than the spare front valance Phil DNJ wants. Possibly the alloys will survive.

 

Never again will I save something old and obscure from destruction. What's the fucking point? The thing owes me well over £2k and I may as well have just set fire to the fucking cash.

 

Peugeot, you have 15 hours and 48 minutes left to live, and counting.

 

 

Swap for a Ford Explooger? No, didn't think so.

[Negative Creep]

At a guess, the 604 is too obscure and lacks the brand cache that would make people want to buy it. The fuel consumption and lack of parts would also put off younger or first time classic car fans

[Parky]

Convert it into a pick up and send it to Africa? Surely the export market would appreciate a big old Peugeot.....

[Pete-M]

It's been advertised at pretty much everywhere between £1200 and £2200. Other than a few losers, a multitude of banger racers and one chap who's not got the cash at the moment it has had no real interest. Nobody has actually turned up to see it during three months of advertising.

 

This, to me, says that nobody wants it and that erasing it from the face of the planet isn't going to upset anyone.

 

A chemistry professor mate of mine has just volunteered his services. Reckons he can dissolve pretty much all of it in a very spectacular manner, he was wibbling on about using all kinds of volatile things which will blow some things up and melt others. . Reckons it'd give November 5th a run for its money and there'd not be much to sweep up afterwards.

 

I have never felt like this before with a car. It actually drives well. I'd always wanted one, but after owning it I just despise that PRV engine, cannot abide it. The power delivery is pretty much exactly the opposite of how I like cars to behave. It's made me hate the car. I cannot be bothered doing an engine transplant to it, I just want it away from the house and somewhere I'll never see it again.

 

The PRV engine has made me not care about old cars anymore. Seriously. It has exterminated my old car mojo.

 

At the moment I'm feeling like I've wasted 30 years of my life learning about and working with old cars only to end up with one I don't even want to look at. Once it's gone I'll give up all the old car stuff I've been doing and go and play with boats or summat instead.

 

It may just get one last chance and an entry into H&H classic auctions, but only if Professor Greg doesn't arrive with the items needed to do something hyper destructive first.

[mattblack]

May be worth sticking a post up on here?

 

http://www.unitylowriderforum.net/

[triumph1300]

What a shame...its a cool car, I had never seen one before joining up here. If I was in a situation where I had some cash I would have it, I can't bear to see older stuff get destroyed, I've bought plenty of cars in the past just for that reason. Shame I can't this time

[eddyramrod]

I deliberately haven't weighed into the 604 conversation before because I'm not in a position at the moment where I could do anything positive, though I am expecting that to change in a matter of weeks. I'd love it myself (how much more of a mistake could it be than a manual Granada ffs??????) but short of that, please give the lowrider boys a crack at it Pete. Your pain is extremely familiar to me, as you know (much consolation may that be), but one more forum can't hurt, can it? Otherwise, wouldn't Fred be interested for filming purposes? It's an ideal car for a quirky maverick detective....

[Lankytim]

Swap you for a Volvo 240 estate? Actually, you'll probably hate that MORE than a 604!

 

Just stick it in a classic auction with no reserve, if it goes for £750 odd that's £750 more than you'll get by blowing it up.

[Spiny Norman]

Just stick it in a classic auction with no reserve, if it goes for £750 odd that's £750 more than you'll get by blowing it up.

 

It's making £915 on the bay of E right now, so there could be hope. Surely you'd rather take that than destroy it?

[Pete-M]

Just stick it in a classic auction with no reserve, if it goes for £750 odd that's £750 more than you'll get by blowing it up.

 

It's making £915 on the bay of E right now, so there could be hope. Surely you'd rather take that than destroy it?

 

There could indeed be hope, but I get this strange feeling it won't be on the bay of E.

 

Apologies for the ranting. the 604 sitting on the path, unused for a month is just pissing me right off, and when the Prof offered to "out Top Gear anything you've ever seen when it comes to automotive destruction.." I have to admit the temptation got to me more than a tad. I've never owned a car that nobody wanted before! I know that sounds strange, but in the past if I've bought something I didn't get on with it has never ever been a problem to shift it, and that's a fair few hundred cars. On some things I don't mind losing a few quid, but this Pug has swallowed 18 months of my time, significant amounts of cash and it actually drives rather well.

 

I just despise the engine in it. Properly hate the engine! It's got a really weird power delivery. Off the line it goes rather well, it's actually quite nippy away from the lights and it does go alright there's just something about the engine I really dislike. There's nothing below 1000 rpm, then it pulls well to 2000 rpm, then above about 3000 rpm it just sounds harsh and a fair bit louder without much more in the way of poke. It is most likely something to do with it being a 90’ V6 with a flat crank, but it's an engine I really don't get on with. It seems to spend its whole life at 2000 rpm, and I don't really like the sound it makes. Peugeot should have stuck with the V8 instead of lopping cylinders off to create this thing. For me, the engine ruins the car. With a V8 I'd love the thing.

 

Put it this way, since I bought the Subaru the Pug hasn't moved, not an inch. I don't think I've started it for a month, and I've not missed it. I look at the 604 and it makes me grin, but the thought of driving it with that bloody weird engine and I can't be bothered with it. I waited over a year to drive it and then the engine started to irritate me. Now it's annoying me just sitting there. It's a shame, a lot of effort and hard work went into fixing it up and basically rescuing it, it's solid and not too shabby at all, but I don't like driving it. So I advertised it and as I say, not one person has actually bothered coming to see it. It's not expensive, last time I looked it was less than half the price of the next road legal one for sale in the whole of Europe.

 

I'm going to speak to a couple of the auction houses about putting it in a classic sale, but I'm not going to let it go for silly money. I will let the Prof have his way with it if it doesn't fetch something sensible. I'd rather he blows it to bits than give it away, at least that way it'll be memorable for something other than that bloody awful PRV engine.

 

I now understand exactly how lots of unusual old cars ended up in the scrappage scheme as if scrappage was still going I'd at least be able to recoup my expenditure short term. I also understand exactly how this ended up being one of the last 604 STis.....

 

the 604 is too obscure and lacks the brand cache that would make people want to buy it. The fuel consumption and lack of parts would also put off younger or first time classic car fans

 

I suspect your guess has hit the nail on the head. Lack of parts isn't actually an issue. Ok, there are a few oddball bits that may be a little rare, but the majority of bits are 504 bits and they were still made in Argentina very recently. Bits aren't even expensive for it. Ok, it's not exactly fuel-sipper of the year, but it's better on juice than a 2.8i Granada auto, handles better, rides better and is about 1/2 the price of a solid Mk2 Granny.

 

It has to go very soon. I want the space back for the Jag, and I've totally lost patience with the Peugeot.

[Guest]

Take it Martin Buckley didn't get in touch then? I stuck a note under the wiper of his Roller at the Le Mans Classic.

Tried the 604 Registrar bloke too to no avail.

[Pete-M]

Take it Martin Buckley didn't get in touch then? I stuck a note under the wiper of his Roller at the Le Mans Classic.

Tried the 604 Registrar bloke too to no avail.

 

2149 views and 75 watchers on ebay at present. 0 phone calls. 1 message from some dick saying "If it was a diesel, I'd have it".

 

It must be something to do with old Peugeots.....

[Cavcraft]

Let the oval boys take it, Pete. Their money is as good as anyone else's and it's not like you haven't tried to sell it to someone else.

[messerschmitt owner]

can't help but agree - basically, I feel the majority of the people who would want a Pug 604 are on this very forum - and we don't want it, obviously. I have no issues with you scrapping it or it being bangered.

[dollywobbler]

Are you sure you don't want a Mini as swapsies? I'd love it but the cash just isn't there.