The grumpy thread

[M'coli]

My grumps today: you go away on holiday for a week, and there's 15-20 pages each of the eBay, grumpy and grin threads, not to mention all the other new ones!

 

Oh aye, got told today that I'm out of a job at the end of the month...

[Guest]

I alternate between not drinking at all for weeks or constantly downing bottles of Scotch like I'm Jack Regan. Not really based around willpower, more to do with if I'm in a mood or not.

 

Sounds like a terrible idea, but having a drink can really do me a favour if I'm angry about something. If I'm in a bad mood, I'll just keep chewing it over in my mind and make myself genuinely ill. If I have a few drinks, I can draw a line under it and get on with my life. Oddly, there aren't really any ill effects for me in the morning either - I can drink say two thirds a big bottle of whisky, doze off at 3am and be at work the next morning without issue. Useful!

[lancashireclamper]

First time I tasted alcohol I was four and a half years old, my grandad used to drink colt 45 from a tankard and let me have a 'sip' at bedtime to help me sleep and by God it did!

Always enjoyed a beer though funnily enough my Dad who was a professional musican didn't, still doesn't drink today at the age of 76, asked him about it once and he said alcohol reminded him of being at work too much, just about all of his hard drinking contempoaries have passed away,

Never thought my Mother drank, right up untill she was rushed into hospital when I was 14 and we all found out she'd been doing a bottle and a half of vodka a day for years, she also smoked 40 B&H a day, was given 6 months to live unless she dried out (which she did 5 times altogether, she never touched a drop for 6 years then went back to it, got home from work and found her passed out on the kitchen floor having pissed herself copiously) never knew why she went back to it, she just did.

Still like my pint, have 2 or 3 a night at home, love whiskey but don't buy it anymore, a tot at night was my greatest pleasure but one was never enough, bad head the next morning but so what, packed it in when the bad heads stopped and a litre bottle of teachers didn't last me a week anymore, still look at it in the supermarket every week, really want it, last month got half way to the checkout before I put it back, suppose its a mild form of alcoholism but seem to have it under control, maybe

[j-j]

Ashmicro- terrible: heart goes out to you. I've not been through that but hearing your experience made me think.

 

Fuck it, here's my opinion.

 

Moderation is the key.

 

I drink, but its by no means an excessive amount, infact its chuff all compared to some (as my friends like to point out).

I smoke, and not just a little bit. But I find I can take it or leave it, its more a bordom thing than actually needing a fag... I never have the 'craving' for nicotine.

I also smoke pot, I regard it as my one real vice. I feel considerably better after a couple of spliffs than I would do after a pint or three. I never feel the need to get loud, abrasive or out of order after a toke, its just not how it works.

And Im not sure where the opinion that smoking pot leads to harder drugs comes from, I've been smoking green for 10years and Ive yet to see anyone go down that path.

What gets people on harder drugs, and keeps them there, is will power or lack thereof.

 

It has to be said though, peer pressure is a motherfucker.

Think I'm closest to you Mk1, as I'm an ex ciggie smoker, moderate weed and boozer. By 'moderate' I mean a few jars a week and a spliff a fortnight on average (is this moderate? I don't even know) but moderation it the thing: oddly, though I've dabbled with some things, certain other things terrify me: I'd never do Coke (not that I could afford it) or anything as heavy. I feel I personally have enough control to keep it real but those aforementioned things make me feel that the moderation and control could be easily lost.

 

As for being an ex 15 a day smoker (gave up 8-9 years ago) I'll occasionally take a ciggie but we're talking 1 a month average (less than weed for me) and feel no addiction now having stopped the original habit.

 

Oddly, when I stopped the 15 odd a day back then, I initially went into a 'more eating' mode - remained pretty lean though but to this day , I still have a bit of a 'coffee thing' an believe that once you set your body up for some type of chemical dependency (whether a narcotic, or stimulant or whatever) you tend to always need something to fill that gap. The sensible thing would be tho fill that with an occupation such as rebuilding engines or something, but for me I think it became a caffeine thing (even while rebuilding engines...)

[mk1_4dr]

Yeah, coffee. Im a fiend for coffee. Although, I've really cut back since she left me, I don't need any more reasons to not sleep.

 

Also, Im not allowed Redbull/Relentless etc for reasons that I don't like to recall.

[pogweasel]

Knocked the Herb on the head ten years ago after a very crazy, scary night (all got a bit "Withnail" for a while there).

 

Ought to knock the fags on the head too, but because I don't smoke enough to warrant patches, gum etc it's willpower alone, which I don't have - I'll go a fortnight then get a sniff and cave in again. Work is the worst, as I'm outdoors alot with no-one to tell you that you can't work & smoke simultaneously.... 'specially in the winter...

 

And life wouldn't be the same without lashings of Old Speckled Hen (& similar)...

 

No spirits though, ever, once drank a bottle of whisky when I was 17 and it nearly killed me, rock-star style choking on vomit style. Nasty. Not touched it since.

 

Cannot drink tea or coffee neither. What's the appeal? They taste like shit!

[Rusty Pelican]

Very rarely drink , maybe a glass of wine or a Guinness at the weekend , sometime I go two months or so without a drop , used to be constantly pissed in my teens but kind of grew out of it ,, I smoke rollups , given up loads of times but feel lost without it , cant seem to solve problems without a fag , have the odd joint maybe two a year , nothing harder ever tried .

[Minimad5]

Went shite seing earlier, and the pictures came out .. well worse than shite to be honest.

There goes a fat lad on a BMX in the rain for nothing

 

Ahh well

[maxpower]

my confessional

 

dont do drugs.... even prescription ones

 

not drank booze for 9years... fed up with hangovers and pissing my wages against a wall.

 

only addiction.... tea & ciggies .... bout 30 cups a day..and 20 cigs

 

and do i feel healthier? do i feck

[Negative Creep]

You don't even take prescription drugs?

[Minimad5]

Yeah, coffee. Im a fiend for coffee.I don't need any more reasons to not sleep.

And he is still awake at 3:39AM

Hope you're alright mate

[mk1_4dr]

Yeah, coffee. Im a fiend for coffee.I don't need any more reasons to not sleep.

And he is still awake at 3:39AM

Hope you're alright mate

Thank you for the concern chap, unfortunately Im on nights so Im here to 7am.

Joyeous fucking joy

[Cavcraft]

Not the fastest driver in the world but still didn't expect to get tailgated by some young bint in a very tidy 309 with cheapo Irish reg plates this morning.

[retrogeezer]

Also, Im not allowed Redbull/Relentless etc for reasons that I don't like to recall.

 

That stuff seems to have no effect on me whatsoever.....weird.

[Guest]

Amazon on daily commute FTW.

 

Leaks from Amazon in rain FTL.

[Mr Lobster]

Also, Im not allowed Redbull/Relentless etc for reasons that I don't like to recall.

 

That stuff seems to have no effect on me whatsoever.....weird.

I do have a bit of a Relentless / Monster addiction at the moment, I know I need to cut down but having a ten week old baby and stupid job meaning I have to get up early in the morning and drive far too far to work means I do need something to get me going and this seems to do the trick.

 

I don't drink that much now - used to but have cut down an awful lot. I find that if I have it in the house, it'll get drunk so I limit myself to a couple of bottle of Old Speckled Hen or somesuch each week. Doesn't bother me if I don't drink tbh.

 

The ex Mrs_L's mother was alcoholic and it killed her. She was told time and time again that she had to stop drinking but didn't listen. When she was finally admitted to hospital for what turned out to be the last time we went through her house - found a mountain of bills (£28k IIRC) that she had hidden and almost every bottle in the house was used for alcohol. She was drinking two bottles of Martini a day, a lot had been decanted into old cordial bottles so it wasn't that obvious to anyone who came round. After seeing it kill her it made me reassess what I drink - I still do like a drink but its very very rare for me to have more than two or three in one evening.

 

Drugs, cigarettes - no. Went to Amsterdam on a stag do. Almost everyone else was heavily into weed, me and this other lad weren't and wanted a beer (and to go have a look at grrrlz obviously). The pot heads wanted to sit around, smoke and play chess. No thanks.

[Station]

Amazon on daily commute FTW.

 

Leaks from Amazon in rain FTL.

Mine leaks from the sunroof, enough to soak the seats right through. I've tried to work around it, but I ended up sealing it up for the third time. Incredibly, the rain still finds a way in. Nothing worse than having water dripping from various places.

[Cavcraft]

I find Monster is pretty minging compared to Red Bull, but then I only have it in double vodkas and by the time I've sunk a few I don't notice so much.

[RedSparrow]

Ugh. Red bull etc are disgusting. Keep seeing kids drinking them, wouldn't like to have to teach a class full of them.

 

I drink far too much. Mainly out of boredom. I'm hoping that a few more positive career moves will sort that out though.

[meggersdog]

I used to be a social drinker,a few pints on a Friday/ Saturday night but no spirits, since none of my friends go to the local anymore I hardly drink at all (maybe five pints this year so far).

I do drink lots of coffee and smoke almost a pack a day.Tried weed when I was a teen but it did nothing for me and tried nothing else since.

I don't drink spirits because my father was a violent drunk who downed a bottle of Gin a day.He would lash out at my mother over nothing until eventually my mother hit the bottle to numb the pain.My teenage years were not the best,coming home early evening to a bruised and battered mother and a drunken father asleep on the bog I used to quip the family motto was "who dares Gins".

My father doesn't drink anymore (Dr's orders) he has epilepsy and diabetes and now brittle bones.I went to see him on Friday it was his 65th birthday.He slowly shuffles along with a walking frame and mumbles almost incoherently.When talking to him he will continue with a topic last discussed 15 minutes earlier.65 going on 90.If that's what 30 years of hard drinking does to you then no thank's.

[Rusty Pelican]

Mrs RP used to be a nurse , she used to see quite a few patients with Alzheimers cause by alcoholism , youngest was 54

EDIT , proper name is Korsakoff disease and whilst not strickly alzheimers the symptoms are very simular

[Station]

I love Red Bull/Monster/Relentless when it's been in the fridge. I can't drink more than one though.

[Danblez]

Mrs RP used to be a nurse , she used to see quite a few patients with Alzheimers cause by alcoholism , youngest was 54

EDIT , proper name is Korsakoff disease and whilst not strickly alzheimers the symptoms are very simular

 

Not a nice way to go, my dad had Korsakoff syndrome from his early 50s and died at 55. Whiskey and embassy No.1 in copious amounts

 

As someone else has said, everything in moderation.

 

JESUS! We are a miserable bunch today. I think I will go and attempt a post in the cheerful thread.

[barrett]

Might as well add my fuel to the fire. I've taken a shedload of drugs, and apart from a bit of memory loss i've had no health problems yet, but I packed it all in 7 months ago, due to thje fact that I just stopped enjoying the weed, and thought I might as well stuff the rest of it too... I still smoke roll-ups like a chimney, drink to excess once a month, and have the odd scotch through the week now and then. Trying to cut down on the ales due my rapidly increasing waistline.

here's a handy user's guide to drugs:

 

weed- makes music sound better, films more interesting, food tastier, sex impossible and everything else a massive fucking effort. verdict: boring

 

speed - GR9 for being an aggy cunt, making passes at ugly women, listening to the Fall. makes sex impossible due to your cock shrinking. My favourite amphetimine. Verdict: Act like a wanker, for 1/5 the price of cocaine!

 

coke - fun fun fun, then a living hell when you run out and realise you are going to be awake for hours with nothing to put up your nose. Painful to do, makes me sneeze like an old man. turns me into a right twat. Dancing impossible, sex never attempted. Verdict: great if you are rich and want to ruin your life.

 

Ecstasy/MDMA -loads of fun, great if you want to drink masses of whisky, smoke loads of weed and have absolutely no effect from either. Dont snort MDMA, it hurts like a bastard. Don't believe the press, you wont die if you take this, or get addicted. music sounds amazing, sex better than normal. now impossible to get. Verdict: dance like a lunatic and love everyone. Great for misanthropes.

 

MIAOW - WTF is this shit supposed to be? fucking plant fertilzer? no thanks, i'd rather suck balls. Verdict: waste of time, I can act like a wanker without chemical help. tastes like shit too.

 

Lighter fluid - 'they did it in withnail & I!' Verdict: never, ever, ever, ever drink lighter fluid. It's not fun, and it really does make you puke.

 

Magic Mushrooms - Awesome. Music sounds AMAZING, 'family guy' is the funniest thing ever made, having the shit kicked out of you is funny. trees look really weird. dogs are scary. Sex probably impossible due to hysteric laughter. makes your stomach feel like a volcano about to erupt, and you always feel on the verge of shitting yourself, which would probably just be really funny. Verdict: really really fun. probably the only thing i would take again.

 

LSD- good trip -holy shit, did you guys realise that everything you thought was right about the world was actually a huge fiction created by the media and the government? neither did i until i took a fuckload of acid. people's faces look like Lucien Freud paintings, nature takes over your conciousness. sex feels like a galactic explosion of world power, but then theres a big sticky mess that you cant clean up because you are a total state. you can understand other people's thoughts (really). everyone just knows. will change your life forever, for the better.

bad trip - holy shit, did you guys realise that hell is actually upon us? we live in hell FFS! if you kill yourself the trip will end. if you kill yourself the trip will end. if you kill yourself the trip will end. cant feel my arms. has my heart stopped? I THINK MY HEART STOPPED! maybe i AM gay?. women are evil minions of satan sent here to destroy you - do not attempt sex, it gives them power. satan? i'm an atheist! or am i? i honestly have no idea. FOR TWELVE HOURS. will change your life forever, for the worse.

verdict: the best of times, the worst of times.

 

i hope that's cleared a few things up for people!

[Mr H Sceptre]

I think me & Barrett must have been separated at birth (I've never grown a 'tache but had a beard once). I've got EXACTLY the same views on substances.

 

I still like to shift a few beers of a weekend (& the occasional pint in the week) & once every month or two get on the weed.

[Minimad5]

This place is no longer a Tagora porn palace

 

There has to be atleast one member who works for the Police ?

 

If Autoshite goes offline , we know why

[Pillock]

I dunno, the way Barrat's post read it's had far more effect than the drugs education classes at school!

 

I'd rather listen to "Hey kids, I've taken all this shit and it was a waste of time and money. I paid to act like an idiot!" than "No, don't do drugs. They're bad for reasons we don't understand".

 

I'd only ever put my own experiences across, which is weed is a waste of time for me. It had the same effect as watching Gardeners World - made me fidgety yet tired and just couldn't be bothered to do much.

[Rusty Pelican]

Barrett , That should be on the school curriculum , perfect explanation

Another really bad illness from excessive drinking and smoking is Polycythemia , look it up . its hideous , my mate Eddie died from it at 49 .

[ashmicro]

This place is no longer a Tagora porn palace

 

There has to be atleast one member who works for the Police ?

 

If Autoshite goes offline , we know why

I used to be a copper, Minimad, and so did Mrs Ash. None of this stuff is admissable, as all the poster has to say is that it was "bravado", or keyboard-commando-ing if you like.

 

EDIT to add: just in case I'm wrong (I was wrong once in 1978) my sister, brother in law and Mrs Ash's sister are all solicitors. PM for details, and the name of the copshop you've been taken to.

[Richard]

Lighter fluid - 'they did it in withnail & I!' Verdict: never, ever, ever, ever drink lighter fluid. It's not fun, and it really does make you puke.

I've never tried lighter fluid but I drank petrol once by accident. That makes you puke too and the steady flow of fumes rising from my stomach was less than pleasant.