Trigs new project - Granada Scorpio

[cort16]

That's a weird sound are you sure a squirrels not left it's nuts in the inlet manifold?

[trigger]

I'm not even joking when I say I actually did wonder that!

[stuboy]

looking fab trig

[trigger]

I've hit a bit of a stumbling block with this at the moment, last week dad came over and we rebuilt the brakes, bleed them, got them working nice etc but unfortunately wasn't able to MOT it in time for my East Coast Retros meet on the Saturday which I had been aiming for, that evening though I got the car insured and took it for a quick short drive on a private road, it didn't pull away very cleanly, kinda bogged down and then shot off like a rocket!

I'm not too fussed about that yet though as it's probably stale fuel and I still need to do the plugs but the main issue was when I came to brake the brakes turned to shit! The pedal went down and started vibrating and making a electrical sound and when I did manage to stop it they really struggled to hold the car still on the brakes whilst in drive.

I opened the bonnet and the brake fluid reservoir had filled itself right up to the top strangely but there's no leaks anywhere? I'm yet to investigate it as I'm baffled but would that indicate a issue with the master cylinder or maybe the ABS pump? 
 

[cort16]

Did it boil the brakes fluid due to a stuck calliper ?

Have you got pedal feel back now or is it the same ?

[trigger]

I don't think it boiled as I only drove it for 30 seconds! I just braked hard and the pedal went! It hasn't recovered either, I parked it back in my garage and the pedal still has no movement and makes a electrical buzz sound when you press it.

[dome]

Is there maybe air in the abs block? Clutching at straws a bit I know but can't think what else it could be.

[Royale80]

Are any warning lights on on the dash.

Mine would “buzz” for about 30 seconds whilst pressurising and then it would stop and lights on the dash would go out.

Does sound like a pump issue.

[Timewaster]

To me it sounds like the fluid may have pushed past a tired seal and can't get back? 

My Sierra buzzes until the abs light goes off. 

May be time for a specialist to take a look because

A: You can't cut corners when it comes to brakes. 

B: This car should be worth a reasonable amount fixed, but not so much with no brakes 

?You could waste loads of time and money taking amateur advice from idiots like me on the Internet. 

 

[trigger]

Ha! Well I can't quite remember but I think the orange ABS light came on after I lost the pressure and the pedal pulsated like it would if the ABS was coming on, your theory about a knackered seal would be right but it's not something I've ever experienced before but wondered if anyone else had.

[Sir Snipes]

13 hours ago, Timewaster said:

To me it sounds like the fluid may have pushed past a tired seal and can't get back? 

My Sierra buzzes until the abs light goes off. 

May be time for a specialist to take a look because

A: You can't cut corners when it comes to brakes. 

B: This car should be worth a reasonable amount fixed, but not so much with no brakes 

?You could waste loads of time and money taking amateur advice from idiots like me on the Internet. 

 

I doubt there are many Granada ABS specialists about though...

[Timewaster]

37 minutes ago, Snipes said:

I doubt there are many Granada ABS specialists about though...

Well yes but I meant compared to triggs tinkering and Internet based wild guessing. 

[JeeExEll]

Any updates Trigger?

I posted a Mk3-related vid in Youtube Moments today then instantly thought about your white Scorp from last year.

[trigger]

Sorry, I'm been pretty crap with this one, after the initial progress life got in the way as always as did Christmas so it got put on the back burner for a while. 

The brake situation was sorted in the end by a second hand brake unit off ebay for £40, this was after someone on Facebook tried to sell me one for £150 and then got all arsey when I said they are available for cheaper on Ebay. Thankfully after fitting it the brakes bleed straight up and worked perfectly again.

So with this hurdle out the way I then went to change the fuel filter put managed to bollocks that up by not fitting the washers right and it pissing fuel everywhere and then having a right mare with carparts4you and eurocarparts with buying a replacement filter which came with new washers (I damaged the old washers) anyway, I eventually got one of the local motor factors that actually had the washers with it like it should and managed to get that to seal correctly, then I had a problem with the car boiling up when it got warm, even after flushing it all through. 

Another £60 was spent on a new water pump and some new belts and I stripped it all down today with my dad expecting it to be the head gasket, I was relieved when I found the inside of the water pump was completely blocked with crystallised anti freeze! Once I poked it all out of the water well gallons of water poured out the block! 

So a few hours later and it all back together and its now running perfect, I took it for a cheeky blast up the road and it drives bloody lovely! It goes like a train and changes gear so smoothly, considering its still running on 10 year old fuel its great! 

The plan is to try and get it booked in for a MOT tomorrow, exciting times! 

[trigger]

Oh and the death rattle has now gone! I'm wondering the inlet manifold has some kind of water jacket and if it was connected to the blocked coolant system?

[MorrisItalSLX]

Glad to see it ready for its MOT, looking as fit as a fiddle.

You have done a bloody good job with it.

[HMC]

Great effort, fingers crossed for the pass!

[Bren]

Replacing the fuel filter is a PITA - the copper washers sometimes dont seal - rusty banjo fixings and the carrier itself can be fooked - ask me how I know...

[trigger]

4 minutes ago, Bren said:

Replacing the fuel filter is a PITA - the copper washers sometimes dont seal - rusty banjo fixings and the carrier itself can be fooked - ask me how I know...

Thats the problem I had, I didn't clean the face of the banjo well enough and when I tightened them up it dented the washer not sealing it properly and it pissed out when I started it! 

Tried using some new washers but I think they were too thick so they didn't seal and ended up spending ages having to look for a new filter just for the washers! 

[trigger]

So this morning i decided to try and get it booked in for a mot, the trouble is since I've moved my old trusted mot station is about 20 mins away across town and as the car hasn't been driven for 10 years and still on it's old fuel so i wasn't keen on going too far down the A14 so booked it in at a local station, one i haven't used before.

 

I spent all morning brewing about it, will it pass, what will the emissions be like, will it be some young lad who's over strict and pulls the car to pieces, i was needlessly stressing, I took it down there, in the pissing rain, straight in and told to park it on the ramp, then the old boy tester had me doing all the lights, horn wipers etc before leaving me in the car up in the air to press the brakes whilst he was under it which amused me as i didn't think they were mean't to do that!

He actually turned out to be a proper old school mechanic who uses a Mk3 Transit camper van and lives in a mobile home in the car park! after much chatting i got a clean, fresh certificate! Happy days!

I have to say, it drives really well, really torquey and smooth with a lovely V6 purr. I doubt it's a keeper but I'm glad i done it as it really was a little diamond in the rough, I just can't believe how under appreciated these things are, it drives miles nicer than that Merc 190E i had.

[danthecapriman]

Well done! It looks a lovely old barge, enjoy it for a bit now!

[trigger]

Oh and a few other observations i noticed today, both front and rear heated windows still work as well as the heated drivers seat and the rear wiper works when you put the car in reverse with the front wipers on like a much newer car, i was amazed by that for a 31 year old car!

[HMC]

Winner winner chicken dinner! 

[omegod]

Best save I've seen on here for some time and outstanding chodsavery, she's beautiful and slap bang in my wanted zone as a youngster, dare we ask how many pennies would prise her from your hands or is it too soon ?

 

[trigger]

3 minutes ago, omegod said:

dare we ask how many pennies would prise her from your hands or is it too soon ?

 

Thanks, I really don't know what it's worth if I'm honest, prices are all over the show for them, some are £500, others are £5000 (admittedly not selling mind) I know what it owes me though, at a rough guess probably around £1500? I don't know if that's expensive or not?.

[wuvvum]

Excellent news.

[trigger]

1 minute ago, wuvvum said:

Excellent news.

It's all ready for Shotley now

[omegod]

4 minutes ago, trigger said:

Thanks, I really don't know what it's worth if I'm honest, prices are all over the show for them, some are £500, others are £5000 (admittedly not selling mind) I know what it owes me though, at a rough guess probably around £1500? I don't know if that's expensive or not?.

To be fair I think you'd be selling yourself a bit short at that price  

[Shep Shepherd]

What a wonderful car ❤️

[RichL]

Great news trig that is one fine looking car. 

I didn't think that rear wiper action when in reverse thing came in until the mk3 Mondeo learnt some new Ford knowledge there!