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Schaefft Rank: Lancia Gamma

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1 hour ago, lesapandre said:

Given their time listing it with staff, administrative and business costs I expect that's correct.

It would be significantly more (like at least double of what the next most expensive one would be for buyers) than any other classic car auctions I'm aware of, including those that do all the work for you. I guess it's one way to keep lower end cars that don't make at least a few grand out of the auction pool. In the case of the MX-6 both the seller and buyer will lose out big time.

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Ono but no offers, reckon he’ll take £1649?

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6 minutes ago, nev_jr said:

Ono but no offers, reckon he’ll take £1649?

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Golden wheels and these terrible stick on covers for the steering wheel should be all the red flags anyone needs.

alcyonecorporation Rank: Renault 16

alcyonecorporation

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He'll want to keep the battery for his next one, too, I imagine. 

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sheffcortinacentre Rank: Lancia Gamma

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10 hours ago, Schaefft said:

I've read that but it cannot actually mean you have to pay 600 quid on top, that would make auctioning off cheap cars like this completely unviable. I'm hoping it means the buyers fee applies from an auction result of 600 quid upwards, but yeah...

Wouldn't surprise me that it applies to all sales.

wesacosa Rank: Lancia Gamma

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14 minutes ago, sheffcortinacentre said:

Wouldn't surprise me that it applies to all sales.

interestingly it seems the onsite auction have more realistic fees

 

Manor Park Classics has a transparent fee structure with a 6% buyer's fee plus VAT (minimum £600 plus VAT) for online timed auctions, with no seller's commission. For their other auctions, there is a 12.5% buyer's premium (plus VAT, minimum £150 plus VAT) for cars and 15% (plus VAT, minimum £50 plus VAT) for motorcycles. The seller's commission is 5% plus VAT (subject to a minimum) for cars. 

RayMK Rank: Renault 16

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@D.E That Taunus 17M has got me a bit puzzled. It is advertised as being a UK engineered RHD with a 1797cc V6.  It has been through an auction house or two.  The Gov. Tax and MOT Vehicle enquiry website says it was manufactured in 1971, first registered January 1973.  My puzzlement is regarding the 1797cc.  I can't find a Ford V4 or V6 with that capacity, only an AI reference to a 1.8 V6 .   Wiki says that the 1.8 V6 was 1812cc, as do several other sources.  1797cc only seems to come up against this particular example advertised.  It's not necessarily incorrect, just a bit odd that I can't find any other references to this 1797cc version.

Dad had the previous model, a RHD Taunus 17M (P5) 3 door estate  with a 1699cc V4.  The  1998cc V6 was called a 20M.  British Fords around that period had V4 and V6 options but they were not related to the German designed 'Cologne' V4 or V6 variants.  Oh well, I guess I'll have to remain puzzled 😀.   

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2 minutes ago, RayMK said:

@D.E That Taunus 17M has got me a bit puzzled. It is advertised as being a UK engineered RHD with a 1797cc V6.  It has been through an auction house or two.  The Gov. Tax and MOT Vehicle enquiry website says it was manufactured in 1971, first registered January 1973.  My puzzlement is regarding the 1797cc.  I can't find a Ford V4 or V6 with that capacity, only an AI reference to a 1.8 V6 .   Wiki says that the 1.8 V6 was 1812cc, as do several other sources.  1797cc only seems to come up against this particular example advertised.  It's not necessarily incorrect, just a bit odd that I can't find any other references to this 1797cc version.

Dad had the previous model, a RHD Taunus 17M (P5) 3 door estate came with a 1699cc V4.  The  1998cc V6 was called a 20M.  British Fords around that period had V4 and V6 options but they were not related to the German designed 'Cologne' V4 or V6 variants.  Oh well, I guess I'll have to remain puzzled 😀.   

I think the DVLA has made a slght mistake in this case. The engine shown in the pictures is obviously the Cologne V6, which would be 1812cc for a 17M of this year.

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alcyonecorporation Rank: Renault 16

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There was a 1.8-litre Cologne V6? 

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5 minutes ago, alcyonecorporation said:

There was a 1.8-litre Cologne V6? 

Yep. Relatively uncommon:

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The smallest version of the V6 was the 1.8 L; 110.6 cu in (1,812 cc) with an 80 mm × 60.14 mm (3.15 in × 2.37 in) bore and stroke. Its output is 82 PS (60 kW; 81 hp) and 135 N⋅m (100 lb⋅ft). Its only application was the Ford 17M P7 from 1968 to 1971.

 

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sheffcortinacentre Rank: Lancia Gamma

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1 hour ago, RayMK said:

@D.E That Taunus 17M has got me a bit puzzled. It is advertised as being a UK engineered RHD with a 1797cc V6.  It has been through an auction house or two.  The Gov. Tax and MOT Vehicle enquiry website says it was manufactured in 1971, first registered January 1973.  My puzzlement is regarding the 1797cc.  I can't find a Ford V4 or V6 with that capacity, only an AI reference to a 1.8 V6 .   Wiki says that the 1.8 V6 was 1812cc, as do several other sources.  1797cc only seems to come up against this particular example advertised.  It's not necessarily incorrect, just a bit odd that I can't find any other references to this 1797cc version.

Dad had the previous model, a RHD Taunus 17M (P5) 3 door estate  with a 1699cc V4.  The  1998cc V6 was called a 20M.  British Fords around that period had V4 and V6 options but they were not related to the German designed 'Cologne' V4 or V6 variants.  Oh well, I guess I'll have to remain puzzled 😀.   

It's because it's a cologne V6 & I think it's a south African market car.

Roy Townsend at the Taunus GB club knows the details on the car.

RayMK Rank: Renault 16

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57 minutes ago, sheffcortinacentre said:

It's because it's a cologne V6 & I think it's a south African market car.

Roy Townsend at the Taunus GB club knows the details on the car.

It gets more confusing looking at the South African Taunus 17m (P7).  The only info I can find says they used the Essex V4 or V6, not the Cologne.  Strange logic, but it happens. Maybe the RHD for the South African market was an easier conversion with the UK's engine rather than Germany's. Anyway, I won't be buying the one on ebay as I prefer the P5 Taunus.  RHD versions have appeared on ebay in the last 15 years but I've never seen another RHD 17m P5 estate.  Dad's was bought in Germany in 1967. He kept it on returning to the UK in 1969 (ALM505H), then sold it in 1971 or '72 because it was rusting very rapidly.  It did not last much longer after that. 

sheffcortinacentre Rank: Lancia Gamma

sheffcortinacentre

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Export markets got some weird combinations.

SA fords seem to be UK mechanicals with German trim, north American 70s stuff was more German biased  the MK2 Capri had a real oddball 2.8 V6 that had 3 exhaust port heads were as everywhere else they had a single & a siamesed one, ( they only went to individual ones with the introduction of the 2.9).

The 60's cologne V engs were different to the 70's ones in several significant ways too.

Export mk1-2 escorts had koln back axles  dual circuit brakes etc.

African & Aussie mk3-4-5 cortinas had Borg Warner axles ( 5 linked & turreted on mk5's ) the Mk5 Aussie ones had a completely different front cradle,mk4-5 had single pot front calipers.

SA mk3's had the 2.0 V4 Essex, Sierra's had the 1.6 cross flow, & a fuel injected V6 Essex with 5 speed or 4 speed auto.

Fiesta pickups from MK3 onwards ( replacing the mk3-4 escort version).

3.0 MK2 Granada s. South American Mk5 cortina fastback,To name few

Other manufacturers did chevette & Corsa pickups, BMC farina pickups,landcrab pickups, hunter pickup.ado16 vans,moggy traveller vans.

sheffcortinacentre Rank: Lancia Gamma

sheffcortinacentre

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32 minutes ago, RayMK said:

It gets more confusing looking at the South African Taunus 17m (P7).  The only info I can find says they used the Essex V4 or V6, not the Cologne.  Strange logic, but it happens. Maybe the RHD for the South African market was an easier conversion with the UK's engine rather than Germany's. Anyway, I won't be buying the one on ebay as I prefer the P5 Taunus.  RHD versions have appeared on ebay in the last 15 years but I've never seen another RHD 17m P5 estate.  Dad's was bought in Germany in 1967. He kept it on returning to the UK in 1969 (ALM505H), then sold it in 1971 or '72 because it was rusting very rapidly.  It did not last much longer after that. 

Alot of it was to get around import duty as they'd be assembled in the country (using  locally sourced parts) making them " local market models".

Other times certain parts were considered simply & robust therefore more suitable for the conditions.

The escort Mexico came about due to this.

Ford thought the lotus twin cam head wouldn't cope aswell on the poor quality fuel that would be encountered on the event (London to Mexico )compared to the std ohv head ( & the new bda was still unproven) so edged there bets by fitting bored & stroked circa 1800 cc versions to regain the lost power.

Which worked & so the escort Mexico was born

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18 hours ago, Schaefft said:

Golden wheels and these terrible stick on covers for the steering wheel should be all the red flags anyone needs.

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Yeah, but for a certain audience group these are like a bright light to a moth

ProgRocker Rank: Lancia Gamma

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Rover 416 SLi automatic needing work.

£199 starting bid

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The paint work has unfortunately suffered some sun damage and looks likes someone has had a poor attempt at correcting it.
The interior is in generally good condition, although the seats are showing signs of their age unfortunately.
 
For the MOT, as far as I’m aware it will need a new ABS sensor for the left rear (passenger) wheel. 

 

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Metal Guru Rank: Talbot Tagora

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1 hour ago, Stinkwheel said:

1948!!!

That look like it was made in 1919

Have disable people always gotten the thin end of the wedge for motoring or what?

Not these days with Motability giving them a brand new BMW for nothing. 

(puts large spoon away).

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I really hope the VRM is valid. 

Please for the love of god DVLA, don't get your bins raked. THE CHILDREN! 

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