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[andy18s]

That's the DC100 I think. It was pimped out a couple of years ago when they were cancelling the Defender the last time around....

The current "replacement" isn't due till 2018 at the earliest, and supposedly looks even worse. ..

 

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[sierraman]

Those 19 inch alloys will be great for twatting kerbs. Surely this will loose the farmers and utility companies that used the defender

[LC Torana]

What saddens me is that this must be what the market demands.

 

It's the second law of thermodynamics at work.

 

Entropy increases.

 

Everything turns to chaos and disorder.

 

Everything gets worse.

 

"You want a picture of the future?  Imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."  George Orwell, 1984

[gordonbennet]

Toyota better turn up production of Hilux, fat lot of use that effin LR thing is going to be for Army.

[Lacquer Peel]

No one apart from JLR insiders have seen the production versions yet.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

Toyota better turn up production of Hilux, fat lot of use that effin LR thing is going to be for Army.

I think ISIS have got an exclusive deal, Toyota aren't allowed to supply their competitors.

[twosmoke300]

Even as a 90 owner I've got to admit that the hilux is a better work truck in nearly every way . Their main failing is the lower tow weight , not that it seems to bother the farmers round here .

I maintain a fleet of 12 of them and they take a serious amount of abuse and keep moving . All the electrics still work too . Got in the oldest one last week ( 04 with 200k) and the ac still works ! It's battered to death externally tho .

[dave21478]

No one apart from JLR insiders have seen the production versions yet.

 

Very true, but I am not holding my breath for anything subtle or dignified or even suitable to be half way up a steep muddy field on a hill farm with a bale of hay and a dead lamb in the back.

[Lacquer Peel]

The Defender is well past its sell-by date and expensive, farmers have been buying Japanese alternatives for years now.

Maybe they could offer Tata pickups in the UK again for basic utilitarian purposes.

 

[dave21478]

Yes, its getting to the point where the only people who can afford a Defender are the rich and the posh OLLI brigade.

 

A good, cheap 4x4 pickup should do well with farmers but they arent a big enough market on their own and that sort of thing will make you look like a right povvo on the school run so nobody would buy it no matter how good value it might be.

 

Amongst a sea of L200`s one dude round here has a Mahindra pickup....

 

It just looks......wrong. I cant put my finger on why but it looks terrible. Seems to be too high for its width.

 

 

IMO the problem with pickups is that they are terrible to drive unladen - my Mazda bounces like Zebedee if its empty....strong leaf springs on the rear with no weight over them make it most unpleasant on bumpy roads. Its also hopeless for grip....wet grass will stop it until you select 4wd, but without a centre diff you cant roll 4wd on tarmac, so on a snowy day with drifts on the road its a major let-down.  Having said that, if I had to drive any distance, I would much rather do it in a pickup than squashed up against the window frame of a Defender.

 

I wonder what the new generation of pickupsare like....the new curvy-looking L200, the Amarok and stuff like that? Are the still leaf-sprung? I cant imagine they are when they are marketed as luxury vehicles.

 

I hear bad things about Great Wall stuff - are they really as bad as all that?

They look the part....nothing too flash, but not too pikey either.

[D Spares & Tyres]

Agree with that, didn't keep my Navara Twin cab long, it was horrible. My moobs used to jiggle about all over the place and the kids hated it too.

 

I'm only 5 ft 8 but way too tall for a defender....

 

Can't see me ever replacing the Shogun

[DeeJay]

Amongst a sea of L200`s one dude round here has a Mahindra pickup....

 

It just looks......wrong. I cant put my finger on why but it looks terrible. Seems to be too high for its width.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The wheels look way too small.

[sierraman]

If you are living on a farm the last thing you want is some 19's, some plastic shit stuck to the sides and easily damaged light lenses. At the end of the day it's a tool, why have they had to make it 'stylish'. It's like garnishing a screwdriver with diamantés. They must have shot themselves in the foot where big companies like the water board etc are concerned, they want something workmanlike.

[skattrd]

Forget the Defenders and Far East 4x4s what you want is a quality 4x4 made from an ancient PSA parts bin and high quality Portuguese metal fabricators

[Lacquer Peel]

The Mahindra looks, for want of a better term, very "third world".

 

I've seen a few Great Walls in the north of Scotland, a dealer in Inverness used to sell them, but an old-school Subaru and Argocat dealer in Beauly has taken over the franchise. One owner I spoke to raved about his Steed, but it was only a few months old.

 

Why don't major pickup manufacturers use heavy duty coil springs (like a Defender) instead of leaf springs at the back? Leaf springing must save a little money, but they aren't cheap vehicles any more.

[Pillock]

For the past three years, new Defenders have only been bought by posh families who have nightmares about Waitrose running out of Pomegranate Molasses, or little Tarquin not getting into the under-5s rowing club. They buy Defenders because they're being ironic, and isn't it simply fun to not have adaptive cruise control or seats that can blow hot or cold or massage your genitalia. 

 

Restored, mint old Defenders are bought by hipsters, and hipsters are twats.

 

Scruffy old Defenders are bought by shiters who want to go up a muddy hill because they're cheaper than a Series.

 

Series are bought by men with beards and/or caps.

[twosmoke300]

Real shiters buy a pre defender 90 😄

[andy18s]

 

 

Real shiters buy a P38😄

EFA

 

 

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[gordonbennet]

Not aware of any proper pick ups having gone over to coils, though i understand on some (eg Pathfinder) shooting brake versions of pick ups that they get coil rears,  coil suspension would into the bed depth too much i suspect.

 

We had a Hilux twin cab which we bought new in 07, intended to be a run it till it dies purchase but found we no longer needed it 3.5 years later when SWMBO shut her indoor market shop down so sold it on.

 

Surprisingly comfortable ride but it was sat on 265/70 x 16's so got some lovely rubber there to soak the bumps up, hmm thinking about it was probably a better ride than anything modern with S or R in the model sitting on bloody elastic bands, we put a hardtop over the back and i fitted a serious towbar so that extra 200 or so kg's probably made the difference.

 

Pick up wet grip tyre choice is all, it came new on Pirelli Scorpions, Jeezus, in the wet it was effin lethal, probably why it failed the Elk test (look it up on Youtube) and Toyota did one of their knee jerk recalls for new 15" wheels which i didn't bother with cos i'd cured the handling properly by fitting the right size tyres worth fitting which they fuckin didn't on European models, but did on rest of the world (size i fitted), why does the left hand of these big companies never know what the right buggers doing.

 

Anyway, sold the Pirelli's at 1000 miles, and fitted Vredestain Wintracs for the winter season and General UHP's for the summer, transformed the vehicle completely from tail happy to you couldn't unstick it.

Didn't help that Invincible spec had a standard rear LSD so any slight pick up of a single rear wheel would see a full oversteer in seconds, probably why the demo we intended to buy got written off by one of the sales guys when he spun it on a wet roundabout.

 

I made the comment about Army because i used to shift a lot of the others some years ago, even after full conversion for outside duties, winches etc, they still left that stupid rover plipper immobilser on them,  a master switch in the cab and the times you'd press the plipper and go to start the things and the immobilser hadn't disarmed so you had to faff about turning the master off then back on then find that stupid little plipper button (again) to get the things to work...could just imagine half a dozen Hilux's full of baddies hurtling down the road at full pelt and our poor bloody squaddy pissin about with a plipper instead of just pressing a big fuck off button with start written on it.

[Craig the Princess]

My brother has broken the key fob on his bubble shape Rover 214. Does anyone know where you can a) buy a new one and get it coded to the car?

[twosmoke300]

If it's just the casing you can get them off eBay and swap the guts over no coding reqd .

Other wise there is someone online that sends you a new one and a eobd single thing to program it

[Craig the Princess]

Thanks, will have a look for that. It was the innerds rather then the case that broke.

[beko1987]

1.2 51 plate fiesta. Amys cousins.

 

He said it was making an odd juddery feeling coming from 1st to 2nd at low speeds, doesnt happen at faster speeds. I've jsut gone out for a listen in it, and it feels like you haven't come off the clutch properly, a proper bit of a kangaroo until you power out of it, then it wont do it again for ages, or just do one little jolt, or loads of it.

 

What could it be? It feels like clutch to me, due to the way its biting, but could something like the MAF or other electrical thing be causing an issue? I thought it was brakes, but it's too pronounced to be brakes, and it doesnt do it other times.

 

It's annoying me now. I tried to find the MAF, and all I could find was something sandwiched between the block and the stupid crimped on rubber hose tht goes from the airbox. I took the connector off it, which just looked like a big potentiometer. Blasted it out with brake cleaner and put it back, but it's probably not that.

 

Earth strap is fine on the engine...

[Lacquer Peel]

What's the correct etiquette when letting emergency vehicles past where there's no safe place to pull in? Earlier in the day confronted with that situation I slowed the van down and put my left indicator on, rolling slowly instead of what other people do, stopping dead, which I don't think is right.

[Louise2cv]

I think it's up to the emergency vehicle to determine when it is safe to pass and you should give as much room as you legally and safely can. If you thought stopping dead wasn't safe or appropriate, then you did the right thing.

 

You see people mounting kerbs and all sorts and while they do it with the best intentions, it isn't really what they should do.

[Louise2cv]

Interesting bit about solid white lines I wasn't that sure about: they can only overtake if you are stopped completely so you should continue at a safe speed (up to speed limit) until the white line end.

 

You should also keep going on bends or blind summits, waiting for better visibility. I'd never really thought about those situations before.

 

I guess as long as you aren't oblivious to the emergency vehicle and don't do anything outrageously dangerous or stupid, then you are getting it right.

[Richard]

I believe that you still get prosecuted if you trigger a bus lane or traffic light camera when you're letting an emergency vehicle through.

[Louise2cv]

Yep, that's true.

 

I'm a bit of a panicked I must admit!

[Pillock]

I had a weird experience where a fire engine had joined the M1 at 21 South, wanting to get to 20. That's a long way, its about 10 miles but they can't really go much above 65-70mph so for ten minutes I had them about a mile behind me, I carried on just finding it really weird I wasn't pulling over.

[Station]

Wouldn't the best way of winning by a game of football is for a player to have the ball and the rest of the players make a human barrier around the player? And then open up st the last minute a score a goal and then win.