4x4 versions of standard cars

[omegod]

Lovely Alfa 164 Quadrifoglio, I'd imagine parts are a nightmare to find

 

[DodgeRover]

The Holden Kingwood Overlander

Available in V8 flavour as a ute or station wagon and possibly a sedan

 

Most definitely would daily one of these!

[FakeConcern]

Not sure about this Civic

 

 

[Spottedlaurel]

I drove the white 626 seen back on page 2, in fact that's my photo of it. Our own Mr Bo11ox expressed interest and it was for sale locally so I went and had a look.

 

Saw this smart 4x4 estate in Gloucester some years ago, on my memorable Camry collection day:

 

1991 Mazda 626 2.2GLX 4wd estate by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

 

There was also a 4wd version of the Camry, sold here at some expense. One of my purchased John Powell photos:

 

1988 Toyota Camry 2.0 GLi 4wd, E555GVJ (1988) by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

 

I think there were 4x4 versions of many JDM bread-and-butter cars of the 1980s and '90s onwards. Not always the hi-po models either, I think they were intended for use in areas with difficult driving conditions.

 

1988 Nissan Prairie 4x4 (M10), Norway 2002 by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

 

2000-2003 Nissan Bluebird Sylphy 1.8 Vi 4wd by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

 

I'm not sure if the 4x4 P10 Primera was ever raced here with drive front and rear, but the racing cars did use the rear suspension of the 4wd model for some reason.

[Guest]

[Sloth in a bowl]

My fav ever 4x4 as what 4 wheel drive really needs is a boxer engine that thrives on revs.

 

[Matt]

Volvo did various 4WD versions of their cars. The V70 XC (Cross Country) springs to mind as Six-cylinder had one for a while. It was nice enough and did a good job of the whole grippy thing, but the turning circle was woeful and the fuel economy was about 2/3 of my V70 T5...

 

02-Nov-16 - Volvo V70XC - side.jpg 02-Nov-16 - Volvo V70XC - rear.jpg

 

 

They did the previous shape too and it was much nicer to drive.

 

Phase one V70R AWD were a lot of fun too, lift for sideways and boot it when it's pointing where you want to go.

 

Aren't the AWD systems on these stupidly fragile though? IIRC uneven tyre wear side to side can upset them. Considering the climate in their home country I'm kind of perplexed as to why AWD Volvo's aren't more standard.

[Supernaut]

My last Escort. Mk5b 4x4 in Java Blue....

I genuinely didn't know they did Mk5 Escorts with 4WD!

 

What sort of system was it? Was the engine still transverse, or longways?

[Asimo]

^^^Because studded snow tyres are enough, I think they are compulsory there in winter.

[red5]

I genuinely didn't know they did Mk5 Escorts with 4WD!

 

What sort of system was it? Was the engine still transverse, or longways?

 

Transverse. Unless it's a Cosworth 'Escort*

 

 

 

 

 

*Sierra shortened

[New POD]

Holden Commodore Adventra

 

 

Available in Wagon and Ute body styles

looks a bit omega-ish

[MorrisItalSLX]

looks a bit omega-ish

The Commodore and Omega were designed together and use the same platform, lots of similarities between them.

[sheffcortinacentre]

The mk4 Ford's were zephyrs 20 were converted all were automatic with 3.0 V6 at least 2 are known to survive.

Ferguson did at least 1 each 70 mustang & baracuda,stag, mk3 Capri,3 senators (1 was also an estate).

In south Africa mk4/5 cortina estates & pickups were avl from a company as "muscle" ***** 4wd.

Transits have been avl since the mk2 with 4wd, fiat/ivecos vans where also avl I believe the Reno traffic was also avl 4wd.

The Suzuki swift/ignis was,as was the ceuro & charade surprised the late 70s Subaru hasn't been mentioned along with the original panda.

[andy18s]

I genuinely didn't know they did Mk5 Escorts with 4WD!

 

What sort of system was it? Was the engine still transverse, or longways?

RS2000 4x4 basically had a transfer box tacked onto the front diff.

Power went to a model specific rear end but the shell was the same as a std Escort apart from a raised boot floor to clear the rear diff ect

Slower than a std RS due to the extra weight, but more mechanical grip made it better on the twisted..

[MorrisItalSLX]

How have we not had this yet?

 

[stonedagain]

Has the Jensen Interceptor been mentioned yet? The FF used the Ferguson Four system & had a slightly longer wheelbase.

[MorrisItalSLX]

The Holden Kingwood Overlander

Available in V8 flavour as a ute or station wagon and possibly a sedan

 

Most definitely would daily one of these!

Available as a ute, station wagon and panel van.

 

 

 

Definitely would if the budget would allow, they're up in Monaro money!

[NorfolkNWeigh]

The 405x4 was even odder than most 90's token 4x4s , in that it had BX rear suspension for added complication and unreliability .

 

I was doubting myself, so looked for some proof, this was all I could find, no references to it anywhere.

[sheffcortinacentre]

The 4x4 ax is referred to in the uk handbook.

[vulgalour]

Lada Tarzan

 

Lada Tarzan 2

 

I made a post on these a little while ago.

[Guest Hooli]

Aren't the AWD systems on these stupidly fragile though? IIRC uneven tyre wear side to side can upset them. Considering the climate in their home country I'm kind of perplexed as to why AWD Volvo's aren't more standard.

No idea I drove them when new as I worked at a dealer. I don't even know what sort of 4x4 it was except that if you ragged them you could feel it wake up and start feeding the rear end a few seconds after the front started to slide.

[lesapandre]

Aren't the AWD systems on these stupidly fragile though? IIRC uneven tyre wear side to side can upset them. Considering the climate in their home country I'm kind of perplexed as to why AWD Volvo's aren't more standard.

I saw an M plate X Country (?)  estate on the M5 yesterday. In a sea of anon vehicles looked very stylish. There is also the Mercedes 4-Matic on the W124.

[lesapandre]

Lada Tarzan

 

Lada Tarzan 2

 

I made a post on these a little while ago.

Me Tarzan - you cheeter

[sierraman]

The 4x4 AX is in the 1992 observers book of cars. I’ll have a look for it later.

[Snipes]

I'm not sure if the 4x4 P10 Primera was ever raced here with drive front and rear, but the racing cars did use the rear suspension of the 4wd model for some reason.

This piqued my interest so I had a quick look into it. I know the Mallock Cavs used the 4x4 chassis, which I always assumed was to allow them to have independent rear suspension (IRS) rather than the basic "beam" on regular FWD Cavs. Cleland's car ended up on it's side at Brands in '95, showing the rear semi-trailing arm arrangement.

 

The P10 Primera had IRS anyway (unlike p11, p12), with parallel links & a strut (like an Impreza) but a unique Nissan developed multi-link front, very loosely similar to z32 300ZX, R32-R34 GTR etc.

 

I can only find one definitive picture of the rear arrangement on a 4x4 P10, and it doesn't look so different. If i had to guess, I'd say the 4x4 rear subframe has bigger/more mounts (as it would normally have drivetrain hanging off of it) which would make it stiffer.

 

And, yes, I just compared a P10 eGT/ZX to a GTR, a 300ZX and an Impreza lol.

[Asimo]

Volvo 4wd? Don't forget this

 

http://autoshite.com/topic/31503-the-starship-heart-of-gold-contains-lolvo/page-2

[cpjitservices]

What about the Audi Allroad?

 

A6. C5.

[andy18s]

The 4x4 AX is in the 1992 observers book of cars. I’ll have a look for it later.

There is usually 1 or 2 kicking about for sale here,but this is the only 1 going at the mo..

[kinkersaab]

cool

[chaseracer]

What about the Audi Allroad?

 

A6. C5.

 

I put the Owd Giffer into an '03 twelve years ago, to pull a caravan they no longer have.  He says it'll see him out...