Has anyone had a lorry transported? Is it hi - NOW BODGE 50 HORSEBO11OX THREAD (Now with added turtles)

[Mr_Bo11ox]

In other DODGE news

 

I plan to go and pillage that cab on Saturday. Only problem is, I want the winsdscreen out of it, and having measured up its too big to fit in my car!!! (Fiat Stilo)

 

Not sure how I'm going to sort that really, but there must be a way. Anyone local to me (Alfreton Derbyshire) or the cab (Stockport) feel like getting involved? I either need to go over in a bigger vehicle, or find someone local to it who can stash the windscreen till i have a chance to collect it in a different vehicle (e.g. a horsebox).

 

Can offer 'lunch out' to anyone who can help me!!!

 

If no-one can, I will probably ask the seller to hang onto it for a bit (risky strategy admittedly) and go back with the seats removed from the Stilo later on.

[Zelandeth]

Would offer to help out for somewhere to stash the screen but I'm sadly completely the wrong direction.

[Timewaster]

The tale of Bollox 'Orse box bits

 

That lorry's getting on me tits.

 

A parcel come to the Ayres household

 

Contained his bloody manifold.

 

Husband said keep it, but that isn't nice

 

So down to the shed and into the vice.

 

Weld a new flange, it's a bit of a mess

 

But it'll will teach them to check the bloody address.

 

So no more old tat should darkens my door,

 

Wait till E foinds the dead mouse down the bore.

 

Fank you very much.

[Isaac Hunt]

Urgh, don't friggin ask

 

 

I did go up to Tibshelf and picked it up. Brought it back, then tonight I cleaned it up, tapped out the stud holes on the downpipe flange, then found that the downpipe flanges are different!!!! FAAARRRRKKKKKK!!!!

Put a LCB 4 Branch on it with a non resonated centre section and a 'boom n burble' back box. That should keep you up with the lads of yesterday and the lads of today. A sort of Chorsa Box.

[Shandylegs]

Mr Nads,

 

Bad news on the manifold!

 

If you think the screen will go in the back if an e-class estate or a Touareg, I’d be glad to offer assistance...

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Hey gang, hows it going? Not a lot happening with the Horsebo11ox to be honest due to a general annoyance at waiting for stuff. The manifold is sorted now at least.

 

 

Bought the exhaust manifold off the FB group to replace mu busted one. The lad took about a fortnight to send the wrong part, to the wrong address. The spacing of the 3-bolt downpipe flange was different. But I found the pipe diameter was alright, so i took the exhaust off and slotted the holes on the manifold flange, before welding some washers on in the 'right' place:

 

 

With that it went on, used some new stainless nuts off eBay and new studs and gaskets and BOOM we had a manifold again.

 

 

I think the manifold is off the older 4.236 engine where mine is a Phaser but luckily it all goes together. Anyway I started it up and it sounds flippin SWEET.

 

Still waiting on the radiator. The lad who is supposed to be modifying it for me knacked his back making him unable to use his tig setup. After like 4 weeks of 'yeah seems to be getting better, should hopefully be able to do it this week' then 'no its gone again', he decided to send it up to his mate who is also a welder. After a week of no news I learned the friend has had a flippin hernia so that was a dead loss. Back it comes to our man, who tried to have another go at it this week, got it about 10% done then his torch cooler unit goes on the blink. I think I am gonna get it back this week and if its not done just find someone else. 5 weeks of fucking about for like 2-3 hours work.

 

IN other news I bought that cab off eBay for £300. Went up to stockport last weekend to pillage it.

 

 

It was down the bottom of this haulage yard that was all under about 4" of wet gloopy mud, sat on top of another dodge.

 

 

At least there was a bit of nature about:

 

 

Anyway I spent a whole day stripping this. The main things I wanted were the windscreen and the doors. Got off to a bad start by getting the screen about 2/3 out then cracking it like a TWAT. Damn I was friggin fuming about that. Still am actually, best not to think about it.

 

Still I got the doors, and theyre both minters so i'm happy about that. Got loads of other bits too - there was not a lot left when I was finished:

 

 

I chopped the front wings off - my plan is to weld new mounting flanges and wheelarch lips onto them then flog them to offset the cost of the hulk! Im hoping to get £100 for them. Also chopped the amazingly unrusty scuttle panel out. Used about 15 slitting discs cutting that mutha out. Replacing the scuttle in mine will be a major war - to get to it properly you have to remove the dashboard & instruments, heater box, brake servo & pipes, wiper mechanism and loads of wires and shiz. I think it will be necessary to chop the tops of the wings off then stitch them back in afterwards - theres quite a lot going on at the ends of the scuttle to join everything and allow it all to drain properly.

 

As I was chopping it out I felt quite despondent at the scale of the work I'd have to do just to fettle the rotten scuttle in mine. Its a serious job. But, this cab has donated a good panel to use which should ultimately allow me to make a nice job of it, and I've thought hard about it for a few days and concluded it is doable, so i'm feeling less down about it now. I wanted to remove the dash to put sound deadening across the bulkhead anyway... Plus i will treat myself to some new toys (intergrips and cleco pins!!) to help me get a neat job.

 

 

Anyway I'm not getting involved in that just now - I think the strategy is to get through the MOT (should be pretty close to that once I get the rad back and installed), do a few bits on the box like paint the surfaces behind and above the cab, paint and fit the doors, and maybe put a new roof on the box. Then I'll feel like it will have enough invested in it to make the scuttle job worthwhile.

 

Also got the heater box, ignition switch, steering column coupling, wiper motor, brake servo, clutch master, loads of bits of trim and whatnot that mine needs.

 

The cab was sat atop another Dodge 50:

 

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This one's a turbo. the cab has chronic rot in the A-pillars so I can't see it hitting the road again. I should ask if theyll sell the screen, I would be up for another attempt at getting one out! I think this time I'd just cut it out rather than trying to remove it with the screen rubber.

 

Heres the bumper off the cab:

 

 

Lovely sercks!!! They were riveted on sadly otherwise I'd have kept that one.

 

ANyway to my great surprise I managed to get all my treasure into the Stilo:

 

 

Its still in there now as I have not been arsed to unload it! I've been carrying all this shite back and forth to work all week, listening to it clattering and squeaking for 2 hours every day. I'll sort it at the weekend, first job is to fettle those front wings as i think i've got a buyer for them and I could do with the £££... I think it will help diminish the memories of busting that windscreen.

 

Anyway everyone cross their fingers that the rad wil get (just had a text saying he's sorted his torch cooler) and hopefully I'll start making some decent progress again this weekend after a post-christmas hiatus....

 

[dollywobbler]

Even when things are going not entirely smoothly, a Bollox update is always worth waiting for.

[loserone]

Amazing. Sounds like you should go back for another go at getting a windscreen

[cort16]

Wow, that's in good shape. Pity about your overhang or swapping it would have solved a load of your problems.

How did you cut everything out or have you got one of them fancy cordless grinders?

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I took a mega long extension wire and ran it though about 40m of gloopy mud to a socket in a shipping container in the yard!!!

[SiC]

Maybe worth the cost of getting a professional windscreen fitter in to remove it? After all, if they do them daily (I know most are bonded but still), they should have a good chance of getting it out without damaging it.

[cort16]

At least they let you plug it in and you didn't have to tap it out with a cold chisel.

[bub2006]

In other DODGE news

 

I plan to go and pillage that cab on Saturday. Only problem is, I want the winsdscreen out of it, and having measured up its too big to fit in my car!!! (Fiat Stilo)

 

Not sure how I'm going to sort that really, but there must be a way. Anyone local to me (Alfreton Derbyshire) or the cab (Stockport) feel like getting involved? I either need to go over in a bigger vehicle, or find someone local to it who can stash the windscreen till i have a chance to collect it in a different vehicle (e.g. a horsebox).

 

Can offer 'lunch out' to anyone who can help me!!!

 

If no-one can, I will probably ask the seller to hang onto it for a bit (risky strategy admittedly) and go back with the seats removed from the Stilo later on.

I'll step in if needed. Have a picasso. Plenty of space in it.

[wuvvum]

Turbo engine would be nice to have - only an extra 20bhp but a fuckload more torque, supposed to make them a lot easier to drive.  Although if memory serves there are a lot of differences in mountings etc between the turbo and non-turbo engines, so probably more hassle than it's worth to do a swap.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Plus you need a flipping mega crane or Manitou telehandler to lift the heavy bastard engine!!!

[wuvvum]

Fair point - I'm not sure the Stilo's rear suspension would appreciate it too much either.

[garethj]

What did you do to break the screen when getting it out, Bo11?  I've only taken a few out and once you get the chrome surround out and clench your arse as you do the first bang in the corner, it should all be fine.  If you're not worried about the sealing rubber you can use a stanley knife to cut through it and reduce the force on the screen.

[mk2_craig]

No greater fun than chopping up old tin outside in winter. Wasn't worth having the bumper, or was it a bit big to fit in the Fiat?

[spartacus]

That's bad luck on the screen, offset by a result on the doors and scuttle though! Back in the day when I was pillaging Alfa Suds for spares I could never get a screen out in one, eventually I learnt to slice the rubber, as garethj suggests. This was fine until the time came when you couldn't get new rubbers!

What sort of sound deadening are you thinking of using on the bulkhead, in considering the same job on my LDV camper?

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I was trying not to chop up the screen rubber as it was in good nick and someone on the FB group  (who has now gone quiet!!!!) said they wanted to buy it. So to get the screen out I was sat inside the cab just gently easing the inner lip of the sealing rubber, outwards over the flange of the screen surround using plenty of WD to ease matters. As I say I got it 2/3 out and must have been getting a bit cocky. I pushed the glass outwards, not terribly hard, but the bending moment on the glass must have been too much now it was unsupported down half its length, and it just cracked right down the middle from the top. '#MUTHAFUCKA' as I believe the youngsters say nowadays.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I got the rear glass out fine BTW!

[Dick Cheeseburger]

I got the rear glass out fine BTW!

Weld up around the original windscreen aperture to make a smaller opening, and fit the rear glass in its place, surely?

You clearly enjoy lots of welding, hence Renault horseboxed.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

 

This thing has been sitting on my drive looking like a flipping eyesore for about 9 months now while I sort out its general all-round knackeredness. Well yesterday I finally got it back together, turned the key and illegally took it for an actual spin!!!! It now has a new radiator, exhaust manifold, steering coupling, oil, coolant, overhauled front suspension, new brake pads and loads of other stuff. Its still got plenty of problems but somehow seems to be lifted out of the 'fit only for scrap' category despite its appalling appearance. Will attempt to do an update of all the fettling shortly.

[Split_Pin]

Good to see the old girl out and about, a power of work has gone on indeed! What would be cooler than parking up in a decent spot, opening the back door and having a can? Nothing on earth!

[Pillock]

Amazing!

[barrett]

One million likes! Amazing what you can achieve when you stay off Facebook for a bit innit

[320touring]

Excellent news! More power to your elbow:)

[LightBulbFun]

 

This thing has been sitting on my drive looking like a flipping eyesore for about 9 months now while I sort out its general all-round knackeredness. Well yesterday I finally got it back together, turned the key and took it for an actual spin!!!! It now has a new radiator, exhaust manifold, steering coupling, oil, coolant, overhauled front suspension, new brake pads and loads of other stuff. Its still got plenty of problems but somehow seems to be lifted out of the 'fit only for scrap' category despite its appalling appearance. Will attempt to do an update of all the fettling shortly.

 

Woo!

 

happy to see this is still around, and that lots of work has been done  

 

I very much look forward to reading about all the fettling, and well done/congrats for getting it back into road worth shape

[Isaac Hunt]

 

This thing has been sitting on my drive looking like a flipping eyesore for about 9 months now while I sort out its general all-round knackeredness. Well yesterday I finally got it back together, turned the key and took it for an actual spin!!!! It now has a new radiator, exhaust manifold, steering coupling, oil, coolant, overhauled front suspension, new brake pads and loads of other stuff. Its still got plenty of problems but somehow seems to be lifted out of the 'fit only for scrap' category despite its appalling appearance. Will attempt to do an update of all the fettling shortly.

I saw worse than this on the M5 the other day,  

[Mr_Bo11ox]

So, the radiator. It was f&&ked and recoring it ws going to cost about £300, so I had the bright idea of buying a roughly similarly-sized chinesium one off eBay for £90. But to get it installed it needed some modifying, which I farmed out to the dude up the road who does all sorts of fabricaiton and general interesting car and metalwork stuff. But he knacked his back and it took him months to get roun to doing it. Eventually i got this back:

 

 

His task was to weld two brackets on the top, add the extra 25mm pipe stub, weld up the two small ports for the transmission cooler (should have left those alone really) and add a little 10mm pipe stub on the top for the air bleed. Total cost: £40. Bargain!!! I think he did it cheap cos it had taken him like 3 months to do it.

 

I started by slicing the lugs off the bottom:

 

 

Made two little captive nut brackets that slid in from the ends:

 

 

And attached 2 rubber bobbin moiunts that I got off eBay for a few quid:

 

 

Cos I couldnt access the nut, I couldnt do these up very tight! I did my best but really I should have found some with a hexagonal plate you could get a spanner on. Anyway, onwards:

 

 

On the top edge, the guy had welded these brackets on, they were positioned to join up to the existing mounts in the front panel using the existing angle brackets:

 

 

I mounted it off the top mounts, basically hanging it off the slam panel (notice my freshly painted tin shields at the side of the rad!!)

 

 

Now I had to make some angle brackets off the front crossmember that would mate up to the AV mounts on the lower edge:

 

 

Made these rather wobbly specimens out of 2mm plate, and drilled them to go on the AV mounts:

 

 

Here we're looking up and forwards at the bottom of the rad. I marked on the x-member where the angle brackets went on, and welded them int place:

 

 

Predictably the x-member needed some localised repairs of its own:

 

 

I welded it up and gave it a coat of red oxide:

 

 

And mat black:

 

 

That smartened it up a treat. ON it went:

 

 

Check it out!!!! All new BZP bolts as well and I retapped all the captive nuts everywhere. went together a treat.

 

The pipe stubs on the new rad were a slightly different size to the old ones some I bought some silicone reducer hoses of about the right angle and chopped the end off the old hoses, joining the silicone ones in their place:

 

 

All new jubilee clips everywhere:

 

 

The filler tube from the expansion bottle had jubilees on theat were far too big, so I replaced all those too with brand spankers:

 

 

 

 

The expansion bottle was filthy, rusty inside from not having strong enough antifreeze in, and splattered with schutz on the outside:

 

 

I cleaned it out with various applications of bleach, thinners, soapy water and sand. Eventually got it as clean as I could manage:

 

 

I had intended to flush the cooling system through with a dishwasher tablet but in the end I got impatient and just wanged the new coolant in, took about 2.5 gallons man (No I didnt fill the engine with screenwash, I just mixed the coolant in that bottle)

 

 

You can just about see the coolant level now in the expansion bottle (small mercies etc)

 

 

Anyway it seems to be leak free and on my admittedly not massive test drive, the engine got up to temp OK but never got higher than about half on the temp gauge. So hopefully the rad is going to be OK. If it fails in the future mind you its gonna be a right ballache as its basically a custom rad installation now. Total spend including rad, tig welding, hoses, adaptors, clips and coolant was about £180 so a lot less than £300, but although i saved £120 I spent friggin ages getting it together so was that a good strategy? I'm not sure TBH. Anyway I've still got the old rad so will keep it in case the worst happens!!!!