Mot Changes 20th May, Can anybody clarify?

[Rocket88]

Make your own undertray lined with a layer of inch thick sponge?

[Jim Bell]

The best way to clean oil off a wet roundabout is with diesel, then the abrasive use of expensive leather motorbike trousers.

[sierraman]

Degrease it prior to test, quite frankly if its pissing puddles of oil out during the test then the test is probably the least of your worries.

[fordperv]

 

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another cancel a test mid MOT because oil dripped on him (was certainly a leak but not extreme) and another say that he shouldn't really have tested the car with such a bad leak but passed the car as everything else was ok (which to be fair it was a bad leak even after I'd cleaned the underside).

 

A few years back, mrs fps sump gasket went on the m.o.t ramp and started dripping the bastard thing, I shouted over to him to watch out and I switched the engine off, he laughed and thanked me and passed the car but advised he did say if it had dripped on his head he would've failed it, i ordered a new one over the phone while I was there so he knew I was going to replace it

[Junkman]

MoT. Pah.

[lesapandre]

Interesting that this MoT change took place at the same time time as the French CT. Was there a plan...now out the window to harmonise test in the EU at one time?

[Parky]

Might mean we all end up aligned with the German TUV?

[sierraman]

How tough is the TUV?

[flat4alfa]

How tough is the TUV?

 

Borderline

 

  

We want an end to the obscenity of unreconstructed terrorists in government and an end to the system which ever let them in.

[flat4alfa]

Drain engine of oil pre-MOT, re-fill post MOT. Simple

 

Good idea.  While we're at it, drain ALL fluids.

 

It's going in dry.

[sierraman]

Emissions could be interesting with that plan.

[lesapandre]

Might mean we all end up aligned with the German TUV?

I suppose Brexit means no - unless the EU insists on a particular roadworthyness standard that would apply to all vehicles on the road within the EU. But that is much more likely to apply to HGVs and would in any event then apply to Swiss or Turkish passenger cars if applied to all vehicles.

[richardthestag]

found this re MOT Exemption for those what iz can be interest

 

https://www.hagertyinsurance.co.uk/articles-and-resources/all-articles/2018/04/23/2018-changes-to-the-mot?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=18_Apr_UKNews#

 

not automatic then

[SiC]

Interesting that this MoT change took place at the same time time as the French CT. Was there a plan...now out the window to harmonise test in the EU at one time?

In a nutshell, yes.

[5speedracer]

Nothing has changed regarding DANGEROUS defects. They can put that on the certificate now, and have been able to for many years.

 

Oil leaks worrying, as most of mine lose a bit...

Drove a DAF 2800 back in the mid '90's. Left with a spare 25L drum of oil on a Monday and it was empty when I got home on a Saturday. When it was eventually pulled for a roadside check I was informed in no uncertain terms I could drive it home but that was it.

I was out in a MAN the following week!

 

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[meggersdog]

Are testers allowed to make up their own rules?  Interesting...

 abandoning the test has always been there.If a tester considers it unsafe to continue with the test he can abandon it and charge accordingly. Hot oil dripping on you is unpleasant and could be dangerous.

[bigstraight6]

Drove a DAF 2800 back in the mid '90's. Left with a spare 25L drum of oil on a Monday and it was empty when I got home on a Saturday. When it was eventually pulled for a roadside check I was informed in no uncertain terms I could drive it home but that was it.

I was out in a MAN the following week!

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This brings back memories, I worked for a DAF dealers late 80’s and it seemed in no way possible to stop engine oil leaks on their lorries back then, I’ve still got an old diary from those days with all the part numbers for engine block gaskets and seals written down, as I was issuing these every day and it saved having to look them up on a microfiche reader....

[Eddie Honda]

Just implementation of the periodic roadworthiness directive agreed in 2014. https://movingon.blog.gov.uk/2014/08/04/the-roadworthiness-package/

 

Now, if you look at what countries test (and don't) and how frequently, the UK would be one of the main pushers of this one (rather than reluctant adopters).

[Tamworthbay]

How tough is the TUV?

Nowhere near as bad as made out, and as it’s all they know, the cars are better manintained so no major issue. I think the overall failure rate is comparable with our MoT.

[SiC]

Plus the TUV test is every 2 years too.

[Kringle]

Well MOT done for me, no advisories. They were pretty busy so didnt look too closely, however its a modern and they are always perfect*.

[DSdriver]

I was given a handwritten info sheet about the new regs when I took the Saab in on Monday.

I will cover other topics later but one new rule seems a bit strange:

"If vehicle failed MOT, vehicle should not be driven away. You will not be insured"

 

This could catch out more than a few people like those who, for instance, rely on MOTs to tell them their tyres are bald if they take them to an MOT station that does not supply or fit tyres.

 

Hopefully someone in the know will explain how its going to work.

[Cavcraft]

Sounds like some garages are going to milk that for all it's worth. They'd only need one fail to stop you going away to have it repaired elsewhere, so the unscrupulous ones will probably find all manner of 'problems'. 

[Tadhg Tiogar]

Hmm, the local MoT place I go to does carry out tyres, brakes and suspension work in a fairly limited space. I can't see how this is going to help them if their small yard is filled with an accumulation of MoT failures which cannot then be driven away.......

[blackboilersuit]

Sounds like bullshit to me. Only an individual insurer can tell you what your insurance status will be if you fail the MOT. I'd find another MOT garage because it sounds like yours are touting for business by making out people can't leave if their car fails the test.

[beko1987]

Mmm I never take my car to an mot to find out the blatent things wrong with it, but the things I don't know about like bushes, joints, emissions etc so I have a month to work on them.

 

Guess that's that knackered then! Or I need to buy a second car in December that's got a longish test as a fallback plan for the Laguna (or whatever car I have when I next need an mot)

[DSdriver]

Other items on the list:

Reversing Lights - Sep 2009

Daytime running lights - March 2018

Prop shafts - March 2018

Bumper security and condition

Rear drive shafts on all vehicles

Cab security

Cab steps

Engine management warning light

emission control equipment - dpf...

fluid leaks posing an environmental risk (needs clarifying) - air con, oil leaks, power steering leaks, brake fluids or coolant.

Tyres correctly inflated

undertrays

emission - diesels - dpf result in being cope off (sic) any smoke from rear, removed

front fog lamps/lights to be working March 2018

[DSdriver]

Sounds like bullshit to me. Only an individual insurer can tell you what your insurance status will be if you fail the MOT. I'd find another MOT garage because it sounds like yours are touting for business by making out people can't leave if their car fails the test.

Lets wait until one of the experts comments before getting all unnecessary

[hennabm]

You can get a failure currently with a "dangerous" defect listed.

 

The garage cannot stop you from driving away at the moment and the new rules after 20th May do not change anything.

It is in the new manual showing the new defect listings but says nothing about not being able to drive it away.

 

https://training.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/manuals/class3457/Introduction.html#section_7

 

The DVSA website did say initially that the owner couldn't take it away but then quickly changed it to read as the manual.

[AMC Rebel]

As for “not being insured”. Most policies have a roadworthiness clause and always have. There is a very common urban myth that no MOT=no insurance but it isn’t generally true.

You will remain insured to the extent required by law - in theory insurers might try to recover their costs if you were driving a dangerous vehicle.

 

TLDR - nothing has really changed