What makes you grin? Antidote to grumpy thread

[Parky]

Exactly. Future classic, etc etc

[saucedoctor]

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[bub2006]

Mmmm Webers on a derv. Would he be able to do anything anyone tells him?

[forddeliveryboy]

I'll be back in the land of veg oil powered cars too, just bought a Mk1 Octavia Tdi. Needs some work to get it road ready then I'll be watching the cheap veg oil thread...

 

Better to spend your time asking around hotel kitchens for free/v cheap used - I have a collection which I'd prefer to fry my chips in than most of the new genetically modified stuff. Almost indistinguishable from new, right down to the bottom of the barrel. I almost guarantee there's a place within 20 miles of you which would be happy for you to collect. New oil works out hardly less expensive than diesel when everything is factored in - at 20p a litre it makes sense, £1 a litre much less so.

 

BTW, Mk1 Octs are fine cars if a little dull. I'm using one atm, it's only the 90hp model (155lbft) but goes like fook if you grew up with without turbos and learnt how to make good time with 60hp and 55lbft! Helped by giving it the Italian Tune Up treatment for a fortnight, which also got rid of a sticking turbo and ensuing limp mode.

[Cavcraft]

I think Renault autos of the time were a bit dubious

 

I think Renault autos of all time are a but dubious.

[vulgalour]

New oil works out hardly less expensive than diesel when everything is factored in - at 20p a litre it makes sense, £1 a litre much less so.

At 20p a litre it's very worth the effort, agreed. Even so, at £1 a litre you're still saving 40p a litre on average pump prices which is a pretty hefty saving, you can put a third as much again fuel in the car as you could if you went to the pump and that'll get you a good many more miles for zero outlay apart from a few minutes faff with a funnel.

[The Moog]

When you pay 74p a litre it definitely is worth doing. £400 car pays for itself quick enough on the savings

[scruff]

I'm in PC this month, yay

[cort16]

Are any of you veg munchers using a fuel heater? There's a 525 td BMW for sale over on RR with a fuel heater so it can process veg easier and it seem pretty sensible to me.  I mean it's not going to help lifting lard out the tank but it must make it easier on the injectors etc if the fuel is warm and thin?

[Mr Livered]

I'm in PC this month, yay

Which one are you then?

[beko1987]

Apparently mine has a built in heater somewhere but I have no idea! On 100% veg at the moment and cannot tell the difference apart from a slightly smoother idle!

 

May chuck some derv in on payday to balance it out a bit, will see. MPG seems slightly less than it should on just veg but the fuel needle is a liar anyway so I think I chicken out too soon!

[vulgalour]

Tank heaters?  Luxury!

[trigger]

I'm in PC this month, yay

 

Do they have them gay chat line adverts in the back again then?.

 

[Cavcraft]

I'm missing something here: New oil is about 80p-£1.00 a litre, diesel is about what, £1.37? Complete no brainer.

[Sloth in a bowl]

Just sat at home doing some computaR work and Bergerac is on telly. The crims have just nicked a Ford D series lorry 

 

I'm doing an occasional watch of series 3 at the moment and in the latest episode the hot lady jewel thief has a hot Renault Fuego.

Great programme

[dugong]

I have a car with a offcut block of wood for a gearknob. STYLE ET LUXE

[bub2006]

EBay bargains had today. 2x215/50/17 tyres with a good few thousand miles left on. Michelin primacy too. 20 quid for the pair 5 miles away. My mate works in a garage and he said he will fit and balance for free too. Bonus

[nacho man]

This happened yesterday

 

 

It needed a 13 odd quid ball joint (20 min job) and a 27 quid rear wheel bearing ( half a day many expletives job) it should of been pretty simple but sometimes I am crap, Well most of the time. Also it needed the earth sorting for one of the rear lights as it was doing that dim brake light and indicator coming on the same time French thing.

 

Anyhow for around 90 odd quid including the mot she is ready to roll for another year so it can back to doing this.

 

 

Also euro car parts came up trumps with the parts again. For me I hardly have any probs, and when you can get some 10w-40 semi syn diesel oil and a Bosch filter for 13 quid in them deals you can't really go wrong.

 

Saying that the well known orbis wheel bearing brand will probably explode when I am taking the local church group to the weekly poker and strippers night.

[greengartside]

Haynes museum roadtrip/visit this weekend! Happy happy!

[dugong]

I have a car with a offcut block of wood for a gearknob. STYLE ET LUXE

RECURSION

[dome]

Better to spend your time asking around hotel kitchens for free/v cheap used - I have a collection which I'd prefer to fry my chips in than most of the new genetically modified stuff. Almost indistinguishable from new, right down to the bottom of the barrel. I almost guarantee there's a place within 20 miles of you which would be happy for you to collect. New oil works out hardly less expensive than diesel when everything is factored in - at 20p a litre it makes sense, £1 a litre much less so.

 

BTW, Mk1 Octs are fine cars if a little dull. I'm using one atm, it's only the 90hp model (155lbft) but goes like fook if you grew up with without turbos and learnt how to make good time with 60hp and 55lbft! Helped by giving it the Italian Tune Up treatment for a fortnight, which also got rid of a sticking turbo and ensuing limp mode.

 

I totally agree on the used stuff being cheaper. However I simply don't have the space or inclination to set up a processor or go around collecting oil. If I can save 50p or so a litre that'll do and I'll keep my eyes open for people selling processed stuff locally. 

 

Plus it's fun filling your car up in Tescos car park and confusing mere mortals...

 

The Octavia will be on smoking around duties for the winter-the Porsche is coming off the road for some work. It doesn't have to be fun, just (hopefully) cheap to run and comfortable enough to munch some miles.

[scruff]

Which one are you then?

 

The mong some brave soul let loose in a Ferrari.

[hairnet]

got 20 quid supacheque off work

 

pads for civic for 82 pence

 

woop

[chaseracer]

Unexpected pleasure this evening: FPB7 came round so we sat in the garden, drank tea and talked shit until it was too dark to see.  He borrowed a book about a bunch of nutters driving Trabants to Cambodia and lent me a book about Saabs.

 

XLNT 

[Inspector Morose]

A fine way to waste some time I do believe!

[forddeliveryboy]

When you pay 74p a litre it definitely is worth doing. £400 car pays for itself quick enough on the savings

 

Possibly - that's a good price for new oil.

 

I'm missing something here: New oil is about 80p-£1.00 a litre, diesel is about what, £1.37? Complete no brainer.

 

Sounds like you've done it, 100% veg through repeated winters? Once you start adding diesel and petrol to £1 a litre fuel (which you have to), the savings reduce rapidly. I wouldn't, given the various hassles and worse mpg. Many IPs suffer from seal deterioration and may need to be removed to replace them, fuel lines often start leaking air causing cutting out and poor starting, starting will be a pain in lower temps - so let's hope the starter motor is almost unworn, you need to change the engine oil twice as often, any less than good injector patterns, cylinder compressions, lift pumps and so on will all cause problems, some terminal. Filters often need replacing twice as often, leak off pipes generally give up the ghost but are cheap and so on. You won't be going anywhere on 100% new GM soya when the temps dip much below 2C. Set off when it's 6C and when the temps drop you'll be sitting at the side of the road.

 

If you do nothing and miraculously your engine does as many miles per gallon on the cheapest GM Soya oil as it does on Shell diesel, you could save up to almost £1000 in a year if you use the maximum allowed. I'd be as surprised as those on the uk vegoil forum - their verdict is that at 20p a litre any risk (knackered engine at worst, starter motor, more filters, new pipes, connections and clips, glow plugs and so on) will be covered within a year, even after you've costed the couple of hundred on filters and a couple of storage drums. But they reckon that running new oil, it's hardly worth the marginal saving (which in the real world, isn't going to be anywhere near a grand) given the potential for problems.

[vulgalour]

And God came down from his afternoon nap and did post on the internet on an obscure car forum** and spake thus:
 
"I do not currently own a Princess, but I would love to! My main car is a grey Lancia Gamma (126,000 miles on the clock, used as my daily driver since 1989 when I saved it from being scrapped... My other car is a beige MK1 Rover 200 with over 90,000 miles on the clock, which I use when my sons come and visit me as the Gamma simply isn't big enough."


** www.leylandprincess.co.uk

[garethj]

That man is one of life's winners.  I love seeing old cars being used as daily drivers, and a Gamma is almost off the scale for WIN

[Cavcraft]

I've added a little diesel here and there, but ran cars through winter on veg without any massive drama for years. Never had any fancy heating system or anything like that either, and even for the odd bit of diesel added it still works out shit loads cheaper.

One of my old BXs ran only on veg oil for 11 months inc the depths of winter, and whilst I admit it was a bastard to start it ran fine once going and I never changed the oil. To be honest, even that wouldn't be a big drama as I could have put the old engine oil into the fuel tank and burnt that off too had I wanted. Or had it been legal.

 

I suppose a lot of it is down to how much people read, compared to how much they've experienced or are willing to gamble. If a car is your only car and owes you a lot of money then I could see why people wouldn't try it, ditto those who believe everything on the internet. The one car I did have problems with was the DW8 engine (or whatever they're called) 306 estate I had. It did have a Bosch pump but didn't really like the veg, but the (Bosch pump) XUD one absolutely loves the stuff, to the extent where I was on target for 5,000 miles on veg oil only, until the MOT stopped play. I have no doubt I'd have probably cracked 10,000 miles plus without drama.

[Sloth in a bowl]

Driving to work this morning and I got to follow an ariel atom for a couple of miles through brum. It could seriously move but looked a bit uncomfortable on the crappy patchwork tarmac we have for roads here. It had a very big silencer can on the back, looked like a spare old drum.

 

Once he turned off then I passed an old 3 wheel morgan heading in the other direction.