HMC Quattroporte assaulted

[HMC]

20 hours ago, Crackers said:

I've possibly missed it upthread, but has it always been green? Your first set of pics lead me to think it might have been white at some point in its life (or it's had some panels off a white car, resprayed):

There definitely looks to be a fair bit of white under that chrome finisher, and the TURBO badge has that odd peeling/cracking effect going on around it that I wouldn't expect to see on a factory finished panel, regardless of age - and that also looks to be cracking to reveal white underneath. 

 

balmoral green is the paint code apparently. Who knows what a suspension package is?!

[HillmanImp]

10 minutes ago, HMC said:

Who knows what a suspension package is?!

A Rolls Royce franchise holder, thats who. 

[83C]

20 hours ago, Crackers said:

I've possibly missed it upthread, but has it always been green? Your first set of pics lead me to think it might have been white at some point in its life (or it's had some panels off a white car, resprayed):

There definitely looks to be a fair bit of white under that chrome finisher, and the TURBO badge has that odd peeling/cracking effect going on around it that I wouldn't expect to see on a factory finished panel, regardless of age - and that also looks to be cracking to reveal white underneath. 

Might it not be an overload of polish? Looked at first glance to me like someone has been less than economical with a big bottle of Autoglym SRP and not bothered making sure the excess was wiped off. 

[SiC]

25 minutes ago, HMC said:

 

balmoral green is the paint code apparently. Who knows what a suspension package is?!

When did active suspension come in?

Or could also referring to hydropneumatic?

[83C]

3 minutes ago, SiC said:

When did active suspension come in?

Or could also referring to hydropneumatic?

Active suspension was a Mk.2 thing I think, 1989ish onwards.

[Mat.T]

Excellent purchase, my boss owns a very early mulsanne turbo which we have spent many hours trying to get running right. in the end we sourced a nos carb after the original was found to be so warped it was unusable.

The suspension package is a very good thing early cars had the same floaty boaty suspension as the silver sprit. The package was probably uprated springs and dampers. Possibly even anti roll bars. All this became standard later on when the turbo became the Turbo R.

[Matty]

Just now, Mat.T said:

Excellent purchase, my boss owns a very early mulsanne turbo which we have spent many hours trying to get running right. in the end we sourced a nos carb after the original was found to be so warped it was unusable.

The suspension package is a very good thing early cars had the same floaty boaty suspension as the silver sprit. The package was probably uprated springs and dampers. Possibly even anti roll bars. All this became standard later on when the turbo became the Turbo R.

Wasn't there such a thing as a Harvey Bailey handling kit for shadows and the like?

[stuboy]

4 hours ago, 83C said:

Might it not be an overload of polish? Looked at first glance to me like someone has been less than economical with a big bottle of Autoglym SRP and not bothered making sure the excess was wiped off. 

my thoughts too

[dome]

16 hours ago, HMC said:

 

balmoral green is the paint code apparently. Who knows what a suspension package is?!

The fact it says Rolls Royce and not Bentley as a suspension package is interesting. Could the original owner have specced it with softer Rolls Royce suspension instead of the Bentley setup?

I rememeber Xtriple saying there was an owners group/forum in Australia which was pretty good with these things-a bit more hand on and less polishing

[Mat.T]

16 hours ago, Matty said:

Wasn't there such a thing as a Harvey Bailey handling kit for shadows and the like?

Harvey bailey kits are still available for early sprits and shadows. Totally transforms them handling wise.

Not cheap though! 

https://www.flyingspares.com/harvey-bailey-handling-package-silver-spirit-bentley-mulsanne-hbeksp.html

[Matty]

Just now, Mat.T said:

Harvey bailey kits are still available for early sprits and shadows. Totally transforms them handling wise.

Not cheap though! 

https://www.flyingspares.com/harvey-bailey-handling-package-silver-spirit-bentley-mulsanne-hbeksp.html

Just had a look. Wow that's a lot. Although if you have to ask the price....

😁

[The_Equalizer]

1 hour ago, Mat.T said:

Harvey bailey kits are still available for early sprits and shadows. Totally transforms them handling wise.

Not cheap though! 

https://www.flyingspares.com/harvey-bailey-handling-package-silver-spirit-bentley-mulsanne-hbeksp.html

Introcars also do a handling package. £1400 which isn't bad relatively speaking. 

https://www.introcar.com/blog/handling-kits-for-rolls-royce-bentley-models-from-1965-to-2003

 

[Boycie]

Leave it standard .....buy some jeans and ciggies and Barry Sheene it .....for the full look you need to pull a playboy model 

[anonymous user]

I'm sure Mr Sheene had slot mags on at least one of his Shadows 

[SiC]

Was it Barry Sheene who did the Cillit Bang adverts?

[wuvvum]

No, that was Barry Scott.

[straightSix]

Hate to break it to you, but Barry Scott isn't a real person 😂

[wuvvum]

What do you mean, not a real person?  Of course he is.  I've seen him on the telly and everything!

[Matty]

Just now, straightSix said:

Hate to break it to you, but Barry Scott isn't a real person 😂

Bollocks. Next you'll be telling Victor Kiam isn't real either 😁

[SiC]

50 minutes ago, straightSix said:

Hate to break it to you, but Barry Scott isn't a real person 😂

TIL!

[Dan the van]

8 hours ago, anonymous user said:

I'm sure Mr Sheene had slot mags on at least one of his Shadows 

Almost....

[Boycie]

Not sure about mags ......what about a set of 3 spokes ?

[2flags]

This is a lovely barge. Being the turbo, I expect it goes as well as it drinks!! 😁

[High Jetter]

6 hours ago, wuvvum said:

What do you mean, not a real person?  Of course he is.  I've seen him on the telly and everything!

It's worse. Cillit Bang is a diluted, crap product. 

[Boycie]

What mpg are you getting with the old girl .......double figures ?

[gadgetgricey]

On 9/11/2022 at 9:59 AM, Boycie said:

What mpg are you getting with the old girl .......double figures ?

Easily,.,,, 8.8mpg 

 

[HMC]

MPGs?! Currently this is VERY economical. More so than any number of EVs PHEV or other lentil type vehicles. It won’t start!

I’ve checked a few obvious things and drawn a blank. I was planning on having @panhard65 give it a good going over anyway as he knows them well and is a pragmatist. We were planning on this later in the year but the shabby Bentley decided it wanted TLC pronto.

I also bought Glyn Johns’ biography to find out more about its first owner…

[gadgetgricey]

4 minutes ago, HMC said:

MPGs?! . It won’t start!

So its run out of fuel then. 

Hope its an easy/cheap'ish fix and normal wafty service is restored quickly.

 

[HMC]

22 minutes ago, gadgetgricey said:

So its run out of fuel then. 

Hope its an easy/cheap'ish fix and normal wafty service is restored quickly.

 

I’m looking forward to Panhard giving it a going over. Its off on a (hefty) trailer to him Tomorrow .  
 

It’s from far but far from nice, he’s the man for these cars (older members before modgate might remember his skillfull ownership and fettling of silver shadows, spirits and turbo r models. ) Another loss to the forum sadly, along with @Junkman and others.

This thing is like an old country house, or possibly Keith Richards. Decrepit but elegant.

[Zelandeth]

Hopefully something simple.  I don't think I've ever touched the ignition side of things on one of these so haven't a clue if they run points and condenser...if so could be as daft as dirty points or a stuffed condenser. 

I'd far rather be trying to diagnose a non start on one of these than a Jag or the same era!