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Nobody takes pride in their driving anymore. Its a tedious chore to most folk - something to get over and done with as quickly as possible.

 

Hammer, nail, head, thats exactly whats gone wrong, modern boring soulless shit cars that do everything for you so no one bothers to drive properly any more to get the best from their chosen steed?

 

This is what has happened in lorry world, basically a chimp could drive a modern lorry, stick it in D and steer, doesn't matter if you haven't got a clue, its got hill hold, traction control, you name it, soon they will all have radar controlled braking, even if you want to drive a lorry properly about the only thing you can do is override the auto box and drive it manually, no skill to the loading, no ropes and sheets to make perfect envelopes with all neat and tidy, no one takes a pride in their vehicle, appearance, driving, anything, the modern lorry driver has become like the modern car driver, tailgating is rife...the irony is that they can't stop smashing into each other with a limited max speed of 55 and all that electronic shit yet somehow we managed to drive old school vehicles without any of that rubbish at 80 plus without the accident bits and find our way around without an effin pratnav.

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This thread is about modern tailgating, however when cars had metal bumpers, esp if it had some 'pedigree' you could bolt a standard front foglight to the top surface of the back bumper with a toggle switch on the dash. The vibration and angle of the light would blind anything not as far away as Mars. A.K.A 'Twat Lamp'.

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driving is the shitz, if i didn't have to do it i wouldn't.

 

and i much prefer to be a passenger, much to my other halfs annoyance cos if i can get out of driving, i will.

I'm precisely the opposite!  I hate being tailgated, but way more than that I hate being driven.  I'm also coming to hate driving in the dark, given that everyone but me has 5000w lamps aimed perfectly into my eyes.

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I still love driving, and try to it well.

 

I did have some twat race up behind me in a 30/40 stretch and overtake then sit at 45 in the nsl part after the 40. I then overtook and they say behind me at 60* until I reached 61*.

 

Why?

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Hammer, nail, head, thats exactly whats gone wrong, modern boring soulless shit cars that do everything for you so no one bothers to drive properly any more to get the best from their chosen steed?

 

This is what has happened in lorry world, basically a chimp could drive a modern lorry, stick it in D and steer, doesn't matter if you haven't got a clue, its got hill hold, traction control, you name it, soon they will all have radar controlled braking, even if you want to drive a lorry properly about the only thing you can do is override the auto box and drive it manually, no skill to the loading, no ropes and sheets to make perfect envelopes with all neat and tidy, no one takes a pride in their vehicle, appearance, driving, anything, the modern lorry driver has become like the modern car driver, tailgating is rife...the irony is that they can't stop smashing into each other with a limited max speed of 55 and all that electronic shit yet somehow we managed to drive old school vehicles without any of that rubbish at 80 plus without the accident bits and find our way around without an effin pratnav.

You are my Dad ,AICMFP!

He can waffle on for at least a hour on the lost art of roping and sheeting. Don't start him on loading JCBs using just their own buckets and legs, apparently it's the last one that's the tricky one!

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Try driving a small car, or a car with L plates.

 

I just go as slow as I possibly can to piss them off a bit more, then when I turn off (assuming they're not going the same way) I accelerate as fast as possible to show I was going slow to annoy them.

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Because they're idiots. Saturday morning I was behind someone doing 40 in a 60, then 50 limit and unable to overtake. They then pulled ahead as we entered the 30 limit into Windsor as I slowed down and they carried on at 40.

 

And quite frankly the next person who overtakes me at a set of lights as I'm in a 20yr old car only to sit at 45 in a nsl is getting rammed off the road. I don't drive a German tank for nothing! Ba humbug :-)

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The '40mph drivers'. My mate pointed them out to me early on in our driving lives and he is 100% right.

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You are my Dad ,AICMFP!

He can waffle on for at least a hour on the lost art of roping and sheeting. Don't start him on loading JCBs using just their own buckets and legs, apparently it's the last one that's the tricky one!

 

Ask him his opinion on brakes to slow gears to go as the new mantra being taught to new lorry drivers (no engine and gear braking), then when he's got steam up remind him that its years since  they performed a gearchange exercise or emergency stop on lorry test, then when he's purple in the face slip in the knockout that since Jan last year a person could pass a lorry test with an automatic gearbox and gain a full manual pass...and if that little lot doesn't send him up the effin wall i'll eat my hat.

 

By the way, lorries get lane departure warning system too any time now, are those PG tips chimps still outa work?

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Plenty of signs in France saying use your engine braking. Not so much in this country.

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@Lacquer:  You'd think that, but they're not, they just ignore them usually because they're that close to the back bumper they can't see it.

There's your problem, you've only got one. I've wired up the nearside one. It's like magic-press the button, the car in the mirror gets smaller.

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Not keen on tailgaters... to say the least! The 'not a girl friend' is terrible for it and if I am a passenger in her car, my foot is rammed through the floor Flintstones style trying to put some space between her Clio and the poor sod in front. She is awful to drive with and if it's mentioned (which I do) then she denies she does it! Always the car in front going tooooooo slowly!

 

I don't passenger in her car anymore.

 

She on the other hand thinks I drive too slowly yet if I follow her to a destination, I am always right behind her... how does that work if I'm so slow? Also, she gets there in right state/mood while I am chilled and relaxed and didn't see all the fucking idiots that were in front of her! All I saw, was the fucking idiot in front of ME!

 

I used to get really wound up about tailgaters, but as I always used to drive/ride 'at speed' it wasn;t a common problem. Now that I drive around town a lot more, it's a constant irritation, or would be if I let it be. I do respect the 30 limits. They are there for a reason and I spend time watching between cars and under cars for feet or animals,, so 30 is fine. Out of town limits are purely advisory so If I have a tailgater in a 30, they don't usually hang on once the limit changes.

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It happens so often now that I just ignore it - if I let it wind me up like I used to, I'd have developed an aneurysm by now.

 

Earlier this evening I got tailgated by a newish A3, the driver of which had evidently taken exception to being overtaken by a Rover 200.    It does help when you're in something with enough power to make the tailgater in their modern financed TDI look like a twat if need be - this is where the Perodua, bless it, falls somewhat on its arse.

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I am never tailgated because I always drive as fast as fuck and essentially, like a complete twat.

If everyone drove like a complete twat, the roads would be much, much safer because...

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I was driving my works van up from Cardiff a few years back on the A49 and was stuck behind an estate car with two sheepdogs in the back.

 

Guy was driving at the speed limit and I was on overtime so no rush to get past.

 

Every time I got close to the back of his car the dogs would go MENTAL! Barking at me.

 

Was behind him for quite a while slowly moving up then dropping back

 

Top fun!!

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You had a good idea when you towed ny saxo back junkman!

 

Yeah, when I'm towing another car, I'm driving like people usually drive.

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I'm precisely the opposite! I hate being tailgated, but way more than that I hate being driven. I'm also coming to hate driving in the dark, given that everyone but me has 5000w lamps aimed perfectly into my eyes.

I thought it was just me being blinded by 5000w headlight aimed at the ISS. Are more of them self dipping now? If they are the chap that invented that should be forced to drive 10 million miles being constantly blinded by a device that clearly doesn't work.

As for braking, the tiny Citroën has enough performance to overcome the brakes so large gaps must be left to use a combination of engine and footbrake to slow. Gaps that are then filled up by loonys tailgating each other.

Use backroads more often and avoid them completley. They're more fun and the scenery is nicer.

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I flip the rear view, slow down if they are especially irritating and let them get on with it. Tis a daily thing in my neck of the woods, motorway, back road, High road.

 

All the bloody same. Dickheads.

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The '40mph drivers'. My mate pointed them out to me early on in our driving lives and he is 100% right.

FART Forty All the Ruddy Time!

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I don't see many cars where I live, but my rule at night is that my headlights only shine up as high as their number plate or just below rear hatch, I don't like being dazzled so I don't do it to others

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I don't see many cars where I live...

 

I've only ever seen pictures of cars.

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What fecks me off the most is that if some twat in a company Audi hits the back of me, it's a bit of paperwork for him and a test drive in a new A4 diesel sportline for a week, whereas for me I'm a £1000 down and lost use of a car i know is reliable.

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Rear foglights are good for dissuading tailgaters.

 

As are headlamp washer jets, send a torrent upon them.

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I'm quite hapy to cruise along at 60-ish on the motorway in the left lane, when I catch up to an artic I pull out into the second lane and more often than not someone someone sticking to the second lane comes up behind me really close and slows down to my speed. I pass the truck, go back to the left lane and the car behind puts his/her foot down again. What I can't work out is, why slow down to follow me when they could maintain their speed by overtaking in the 3rd or4th lane?

I don't think the answer to these people is to slow down, that just makes it more likely they'll do something really stupid and maybe take me with them and if I speed up they do too so I think the best (least worst?) thing to do is just drive as if they aren't there. And have a big towbar. A rear facing obvious dashcam sounds like a good idea too.

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Something I haven't seen much of in the uk is tailgating on the motorway with the indicator on +/- a flash of the main beam. The indicators thing Seems fairly common in france/ Benelux countries. It just gets left on as they inch closer to the car in front ( often positioning the car as close to the central reservation as possible for maximum effect in the wing mirror)

 

The French fucking LOVE tailgating. Me and my dad usually have a chuckle about it at some point on our trip down to Le Mans when we see a particularly ludicrous one, usually a complete shit box with the driver so far forward that they're pressed up against the steering wheel, Gouloise stuck on lip. The other year we were passed by some heap doing 80+ with a van literally stuck in the back of it, like you wouldn't even be able to park that close, then when it came all the way past it had a sodding great big cherry picker mounted on the back, bouncing around all over the place!

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I'm reminded of a run back from work in the Maestro a couple of years ago.  I had some loon in a new Discovery or something of that sort pushing me to go faster than the traffic in front of me and we were all making brisk progress.  He could overtake so I was just slowing down and moving to the left until he did.  Came down from 50mph to 15mph and he just got closer and closer with a wide open carriage to his right that he could easily use to overtake me.  Eventually I had to stop, indicators then hazards, couldn't make it more obvious.  He just sat behind me!  After a few moments he figured out what he was supposed to do and roared past me to get held up by the traffic ahead.

 

The guy behind him had seen this and let me back out into traffic and we all carried on our way.  To this day I have no idea what the point of riding my back bumper was nor why he wouldn't overtake me when given ample opportunity.  Very, very strange behaviour.

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There really is some utter twat-driving on the motorways.

 

I cover around 20k per year these days, after working very locally and always doing under 6k for over 25 years.

The awful driver behaviour used to wind me up something terrible at first, but then I realised I was knackered and stressed after every journey.

 

I've since learnt to relax, go at a reasonable speed and ignore the wankers. Better for your health all-round I think.

 

As said before, a twat is a twat whether they are in a car or not.

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Strangest thing I see occasionslly is a tailgater that looks to overtake Whereever they can, often on dubious bits of road, then a very short distance after signals and goes off onto a minor road. WOT IZ POINT?

 

Because TWAT.

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I let the fuckers past, but honestly, I'd be stopping 30/40 times a week if I did it for every one of them, why should I?

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