Dave_Q Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I'll be disappointed if our hero has to spend more than about 20 quid on fixing it.New shells and clean up the journals with wet'n'dry? Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbenn Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Bad news indeed. On the plus side somewhere in the world a Toyota that inexplicably wouldn't start now runs fine again..... CGSB and Lacquer Peel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaryoldcortina Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 OK, options. 1 - scrap it and start again. Scrapyard offered me a very generous £50 which isn't much of a loss (I think I spent about £80 all in excluding tax)2 - find a cheap engine. Not that easy, and the same scrapyard wants more for an uncertain engine than they will pay for the car...3 - buy the ebay horror that bollox posted above. If it goes for less than £50 I can still sell him that one after I've taken the engine. Problem is although "it drives" it might just do the same thing this one did.4 - part it out myself. CBA, haven't got the space.5 - continue to wish I'd bought the Legend myself. Possibly rescue the S reg accord that is in the yard needing a clutch master cyl.6 - I got cold called by MG cars this afternoon, they are offering £2000 part exchange on ANY MoT'd car against a new MG6.7 - Buy a bicycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Honda Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 [ no3 - 99p special. Parky, Tickman, Lord Sterling and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnside Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I reckon some shuffling through Ebay or Gumtree could turn up a suitable spares car with the bits you need or failing that a Renault specialist breaker though no doubt they will want alot more £££'s for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Fraud Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Option 1 is the sensible one. I suspect you'll go for option 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Agg brother scrapped one with a good motor just last week ! Bum hats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 The best option on "Blind Date" was usually number 3 Number 3 please Cilla Vince70 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Go for option 6 for the laugh if you can afford it oldcars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaryoldcortina Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 I've got a test drive booked for tomorrow, and I could afford it. I don't think it's going to happen though! further to option 2 - I've offered a tenner on this. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-Laguna-2001-2005-1-8-16v-Engine-F4P-770-/181523458950?hash=item2a43a42b86:g:YEoAAOSwxH1UEYkV&autorefresh=true Ipswich to durham shite express to save the £50 postage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Shite of the future maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaryoldcortina Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 Yeah, but buying a new one is a much more expensive way of burning money that trying to save a free Laguna, and probably much less fun. Sigmund Fraud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstraight6 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Why did changing the engine oil and filter cause engine death? I've had some right old mingers of motors with prehistoric soup in the sump when I've first got them and never had exploding engines after changing the oil and filter, mind you they were all old 60's 70's and 80's clunkers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaryoldcortina Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 Just guessing, obv, but what I think is that the main bearings were already very worn due to abuse and lack of servicing. The worn bearing was surrounded by a gunky oily film of old oil and metal particles. Changing the oil, especially for nice modern thin stuff, flushed the crap out of the bearings leaving them dangerously thin and then one spins round onto its pair and locks the crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Rocket Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Just guessing, obv, but what I think is that the main bearings were already very worn due to abuse and lack of servicing. The worn bearing was surrounded by a gunky oily film of old oil and metal particles. Changing the oil, especially for nice modern thin stuff, flushed the crap out of the bearings leaving them dangerously thin and then one spins round onto its pair and locks the crank. I'd imagine that's probably it. Also, I think the new oil can disturb built-up clag that has been building up for years- this then loosens and blocks a critical oilway, which then starves whatever it feeds oil to... with disastrous consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatharris Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Do it.Save the Laguna, you know it makes sense*. Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrydicky Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I've been reading this thread with interest and (although it's not me doing the work or spending the cash) I for one would enjoy reading about an engine swap on this car. Does seem a shame to scrap it after all the wonderful low-budget improvements you've made to the thing. Fix it, then you can continue laughing in the face of consumerism and our modern throwaway society. scruff and Lacquer Peel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greengartside Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I agree with INJUN SWOP. Remember what I said about sticking two fingers up to Cameron, ISIS/ISIL et. al? Shove a new engine in it and enjoy some trouble free motoring. There are at least 4 Lagunas in my local scrapyard at the moment if you do get stuck. purplebargeken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaryoldcortina Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 Well, I guess because I already paid for december's tax, it's got until christmas. If a solution happens, I'll run it and if not I'll cash the tax and scrap it. Craig the Princess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I say blow it up (with semtex) Taff, dugong and scaryoldcortina 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaryoldcortina Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 Haven't got any semtex. Can I use Nitram/diesel mix instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Alright then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripped fred Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Please fix this! You know it makes (no financial) sense. It's not the easiest option but it's what a true blooded shiter would do (says he who is having a big dilemna about changing the auxiliary belt on his 406). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_lihp Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 A friend of a friend recently admitted that she has never had her M-plate Carina E serviced in the 8+ years she's owned it because 'it costs too much money'. I foolishly said that next time she was visiting I would do it for the cost of the oil and filters just to save the poor thing being abused any more but I reckon I'll rescind that offer now, I don't think I'd want all the aggro if it expired shortly afterwards. scaryoldcortina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Might as well ask here as anywhere else - what else does the 1.8 16v go into, and is the bottom end of the 2.0 more or less the same? (there is a 2.0 lag with a snapped belt in the scrappy - if I can put the 1.8 head onto its block and use all the ancilliaries then it's only going to cost me a headgasket and some time) F4xThe F4x is an indirect actuated 16-valve DOHC with a multipoint-EFI system. Twin-scroll turbo on the F4Rt engineF4P 1.8 L (1,783 cc or 109 in3), B x S: 82.7 by 83.0 millimetres (3.26 in × 3.27 in).1998–2001 Renault Laguna I2001–2005 Renault Laguna II2002 Proton Waja 1.8LF4R 2.0 L (1,998 cc or 122 in3), B x S: 82.7 by 93.0 millimetres (3.26 in × 3.66 in).1993–2000 Renault Laguna I2003– Renault Mégane2003– Renault Scenic1996– Renault Espace2000– Renault Clio Renault Sport (172, 182, 197 and 200)2000– Renault Trafic (120)2000– Formula Renault 2.02010– Dacia Duster2013– Praga R1F4Rt 2.0 L (1,998 cc or 122 in3), B x S: 82.7 by 93.0 millimetres (3.26 in × 3.66 in).2002– Renault Espace, Renault Vel Satis, Renault Avantime, Renault Megane III TCe 180,[3]Renault Laguna II+III, Renault Scenic - Twin-scroll turbo by Mitsubishi with 165-180 hp (with overboost 190 hp on TCe 180) [4]2003– Renault Megane II Sport 225/230 hp, 2005– Renault Laguna II/III GT 205 hp,2009– Renault Megane III Sport 250/265/275 hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVee8 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I wonder if a offer/deal could be done on this http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510258143331?model=laguna&make=renault&sort=default&page=1&radius=15&search-target=usedcars&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&postcode=DH2%203HX&logcode=p http://www.buyfromusautopark.co.uk/used-cars/renault-laguna-1-8-16v-privilege-5dr-meadowfield-201510258143331 Or maybe one for Mr Boll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I've got a test drive booked for tomorrow, and I could afford it. I don't think it's going to happen though! further to option 2 - I've offered a tenner on this. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-Laguna-2001-2005-1-8-16v-Engine-F4P-770-/181523458950?hash=item2a43a42b86:g:YEoAAOSwxH1UEYkV&autorefresh=true Ipswich to durham shite express to save the £50 postage?I'm sure I could do that when I pick the Sierra up from Trig to bring back to Redcar. Failing that I could always bring the knackered Laguna from Osmotherley over with the truck for £priceofacoupleofpints scaryoldcortina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Might as well ask here as anywhere else - what else does the 1.8 16v go into, and is the bottom end of the 2.0 more or less the same? (there is a 2.0 lag with a snapped belt in the scrappy - if I can put the 1.8 head onto its block and use all the ancilliaries then it's only going to cost me a headgasket and some time) F4xThe F4x is an indirect actuated 16-valve DOHC with a multipoint-EFI system. Twin-scroll turbo on the F4Rt engineF4P 1.8 L (1,783 cc or 109 in3), B x S: 82.7 by 83.0 millimetres (3.26 in × 3.27 in).1998–2001 Renault Laguna I2001–2005 Renault Laguna II2002 Proton Waja 1.8LF4R 2.0 L (1,998 cc or 122 in3), B x S: 82.7 by 93.0 millimetres (3.26 in × 3.66 in).1993–2000 Renault Laguna I2003– Renault Mégane2003– Renault Scenic1996– Renault Espace2000– Renault Clio Renault Sport (172, 182, 197 and 200)2000– Renault Trafic (120)2000– Formula Renault 2.02010– Dacia Duster2013– Praga R1F4Rt 2.0 L (1,998 cc or 122 in3), B x S: 82.7 by 93.0 millimetres (3.26 in × 3.66 in).2002– Renault Espace, Renault Vel Satis, Renault Avantime, Renault Megane III TCe 180,[3]Renault Laguna II+III, Renault Scenic - Twin-scroll turbo by Mitsubishi with 165-180 hp (with overboost 190 hp on TCe 180) [4]2003– Renault Megane II Sport 225/230 hp, 2005– Renault Laguna II/III GT 205 hp,2009– Renault Megane III Sport 250/265/275 hp There you go, you see - isn't Wikipedia wonderful? All you need to do now is find an old Praga R1 in a scrapyard near you, and you're sorted. mouseflakes, Jim Bergerac, scaryoldcortina and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaryoldcortina Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Outbid! Ebay laguna fetched £12.50 at the last second (as I was bidding £12, lol). Probably for the best! dugong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 It looks like the 1.8 and 2.0 engines are similar, especially Laguna to Laguna, not Laguna to Scenic like this poor sod. http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=401914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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