Six Cylinders Motoring Notes - a Workshop Day Today

[richardmorris]

21 hours ago, chaseracer said:

Ooh, POSH.  That's why he's 6cyl, not 4!

Last time we met he told me he was starting a weight loss programme with @beko1987‘s step father, although this may have been a ploy to spy on the young ladies in Lycra.

[Six-cylinder]

Thanks  @Datsuncog they have arrived.

Now it is 1982 and I am busy choosing a new company car!

First thing I noticed is Metro City/std/L 1.0 have 45 bhp and the HLE 1.0 has 47bhp! I never knew that.

 

[grogee]

8 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

Thanks  @Datsuncog they have arrived.

Now it is 1982 and I am busy choosing a new company car!

First thing I noticed is Metro City/std/L 1.0 have 45 bhp and the HLE 1.0 has 47bhp! I never knew that.

 

Wasn't HLE an economy tune with 3+E gears, IE long 4th gear? I don't know what made the additional 2bhp but maybe it had stripes down the side or a spoiler.

I think A+ came in a low compression spec too, which could run on 2-star (and probably shit overseas petrol). Or have I got that wrong?

[Six-cylinder]

2 minutes ago, grogee said:

Wasn't HLE an economy tune with 3+E gears, IE long 4th gear? I don't know what made the additional 2bhp but maybe it had stripes down the side or a spoiler.

I think A+ came in a low compression spec too, which could run on 2-star (and probably shit overseas petrol). Or have I got that wrong?

Yes the final drive on the HLE is 3.44 instead of 3.647. Also the HLE develops max power at 5,500 rpm while the others are 5,000 rpm. There is no compression ratio figures unfortunately.

2* petrol takes the power down from 45 bhp to 41 bhp.

[High Jetter]

Something like that, IIRC HLE stood for HighLine Economy, as opposed to the wasteful HighLine. Did the same for Maestro and maybe Montygo too.

[grogee]

Just now, High Jetter said:

Something like that, IIRC HLE stood for HighLine Economy, as opposed to the wasteful HighLine. Did the same for Maestro and maybe Montygo too.

A family friend had a Maestro HLE with the LED "econometer". He hated it and likened it to a pair of slippers, and not in a good way. 

Intrigued about the additional 2bhp though. I wonder if it was mechanically the same but more advanced timing and DO NOT USE less than 95 octane...?

Also, MG Turbo - sodium cooled exhaust valves 😎

[Six-cylinder]

9 minutes ago, grogee said:

Also, MG Turbo - sodium cooled exhaust valves 😎

You had to go and mention the 93 bhp Metro Turbo when we only have a 72 bhp MG.

The red Turbo is my friends cars and the silver non turbo is ours.

[GarageOfLuke]

2 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

You had to go and mention the 93 bhp Metro Turbo when we only have a 72 bhp MG.

The red Turbo is my friends cars and the silver non turbo is ours.

Absolutely love the plate on the MG - what I'd give for B457ERD. 

[grogee]

3 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

You had to go and mention the 93 bhp Metro Turbo when we only have a 72 bhp MG.

The red Turbo is my friends cars and the silver non turbo is ours.

While we're nerd-gasming over BLARG shite, the Turbo has different front wing pressings as the bonnet is steeper to fit all the gubbins in.

A nice pair. I think I prefer pre-facelift, just feels more 'honest'.

[hairnet]

so. much. nerd.

[Longbridge Apologist]

17 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

You had to go and mention the 93 bhp Metro Turbo when we only have a 72 bhp MG.

The red Turbo is my friends cars and the silver non turbo is ours.

Oh lord. I'm in love.

[Six-cylinder]

Wanted NSF brake Calliper C15 Van 1769cc

I am told our C15 van needs a near side front replacement brake calliper, it is early 2000 1769cc.

[hairnet]

180 - 40 off gsf

[artdjones]

Around £50-60 on Mister Auto, no surcharge apparently.

[dean36014]

Any good?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brake-Caliper-w-Bracket-Front-Left-for-Citroen-C15-VD-ZX-N2-Peugeot-205-II-309-/174965334773?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

[catsinthewelder]

A C15 must be one of the only things that won't overload that beavertail.

[Six-cylinder]

My garage have now ordered a calliper, but I am a bit concerned if it is the right one as Andyrew found two different types.

We will know in a few days.

[Spurious]

If you're tight like me, BigRedd have a rebuild kit for £13, pistons, seals, boots, grease etc. 

Usually it's enough to get a caliper working again, unless the nipple or flexi has seized solid in them. 

[Six-cylinder]

1 minute ago, Spurious said:

If you're tight like me, BigRedd have a rebuild kit for £13, pistons, seals, boots, grease etc. 

Usually it's enough to get a caliper working again, unless the nipple or flexi has seized solid in them. 

I am paying a garage to do the job so the extra labour would soak up any savings.

[grogee]

Isn't it annoying when the caliper isn't mirror image left and right, eg the Flexi and bleed nipple positions are interchangeable. 

Whenever I look for 'handed' calipers 2nd-hand I always find 3 of the wrong side and none of the correct side. 

[artdjones]

1 hour ago, Six-cylinder said:

My garage have now ordered a calliper, but I am a bit concerned if it is the right one as Andyrew found two different types.

We will know in a few days.

Bendix or Girling.

The Bendix will have pentagonal headed screws holding the cylinder to the frame, as above.

The Girling is held together with Allen screws, as below. 

[bub2006]

Regarding the HLE figures against standard 1.0 is pretty much same thing as reliant did in the mid 80s. The standard 848 was 40bhp amd the yellow top HTE I think was 37bhp and a different ratio rear axle. Reliant used the same gearbox I think,maybe some other head differences too but can't remember now!

[chaseracer]

The Reliant 850 had its roots in the Austin 7 engine, I think, not the A-series.  The common capacity is a coincidence.

[Snake Charmer]

8 hours ago, artdjones said:

The Bendix will have pentagonal headed screws holding the cylinder to the frame, as above.

Renault 19 had those Bastid Bendix cap heads I seem to remember. 

[bub2006]

1 hour ago, chaseracer said:

The Reliant 850 had its roots in the Austin 7 engine, I think, not the A-series.  The common capacity is a coincidence.

Sorry if it came across as I was referring to the engine similarities to being based on that engine,that wasn't what I meant,I think the Austin 7 was the basis for reliant earlier 600 sidevalve too not the ohv.  I was trying to say how reliant did similar except the reliant 850 was the opposite way around,lower bhp on the yellow top compared to higher hp on metro he engine. 

Sorry for crossed wires. 

[dollywobbler]

9 hours ago, chaseracer said:

The Reliant 850 had its roots in the Austin 7 engine, I think, not the A-series.  The common capacity is a coincidence.

Common myth. Reliant did develop the Seven engine a fair bit but the OHV was closer to a Standard-Triumph engine design, but all alloy. Amusingly, that Standard engine also aped A Series capacities of 803 and 948cc.

 

[Six-cylinder]

bah humbug

 

go away I am busy, I choosing my 1982 company car.

 

Alright Happy Christmas to you all, now leave me to dreaming cars.

[grogee]

7 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

bah humbug

 

go away I am busy, I choosing my 1982 company car.

 

Alright Happy Christmas to you all, now leave me to dreaming cars.

There is only one choice and it's an Ital. Happy Christmas 🌲

[Six-cylinder]

6 minutes ago, grogee said:

There is only one choice and it's an Ital. Happy Christmas 🌲

Yes, but which model?

[chaseracer]

11 hours ago, bub2006 said:

Sorry for crossed wires. 

My wire-crossing, Bubster!  Mr Seabrook to the rescue above... 🙂