Are you into shite out of choice

[chaseracer]

Possibly - what do we think are the finest machines, post 2007?

 

Errrrm.......

 

 

 

 

[trigger]

I'm into shite as i enjoy it and passionate about it.

 

I've always been a fan of old cars, as long as i can remember, even at the age of 4 i was cutting out photos of old cars from Motor magazines and prick sticking them to paper to make montages, As a 12-16 year old i had a cupboard full of car magazines that i collected and would read before I went to bed, where most 16 year olds was wanking off to Eurotrash on TV I was wearing the pages out to popular classics or to a 10 year old Ford brochure.

 

After that i passed my test and had the normal 10-15 year old cars like more new drivers but my fortunes changed back in 2001, I had a lovely 6 year old Escort Si, then i had a accident, The insurance was slow to pay out so i bought a £100 Sierra 1.6 GL, from that moment on i learnt the true meaning of shite. It was fantastic, me and my mates had such fun in that car and when it died I bought £150 Fiesta 1.1 which was also brilliant.

 

Then in 2008 i discovered Autoshite and a whole world of dreams opened up, suddenly I was finding people interested in old cars like me I wasn't the odd one anymore, Mrs Trigger saved up £2000 for my 30th and I bought my BMW 1602, all helped by this very forum and since then much shite has passed though my hands.

 

I still have a modern 6 year old Focus, which is shit (not shite) but I get more enjoyment out of my older cars, to the point that i get the arseache if i don't use them within the week, I genuinely get the hump if I can't at least go for a spin in one of my old cars. . 

 

So to answer the question, No, it's not out of choice. It a deep down addiction like meths or gambling which I just can't live without anymore..

[derskine]

I can't get excited about new cars and can't understand how anyone can think they look good.

Definitely because I'm interested in them, my shitest car is my 18 and I love it's rarity despite being completely undesirable to anyone.

[eddyramrod]

Errrrm.......

 

 

<thinks>

 

<struggles>

 

<gives up>

 

Exactly.  There isn't even anything to nominate, never mind make a shortlist.

[Brooklands]

Out of choice - I really don't think I could ever spend a serious amount on a car again - for me it ruins all the joy of motoring, I love searching for something a little bit different and (hopefully) getting a bargain!

[robinmasters]

It's a choice in that I could afford something modern on finance, but choose not to. The idea of spending a load of money on something mainly to impress other people, and to impress them by being as the same as them as possible, seems absolutely mental to me. 

 

If I won the lottery I would probably buy one newish car (<5 years old) to keep the wife happy (but it would have to be a few years old to avoid the biggest part of the depreciation), and have a barn full of chod.

[gordonbennet]

Possibly - what do we think are the finest machines, post 2007?

 

Good question that, there's a few that will be bearable.

 

Subaru Legacy/Forester, Defender,  Avensis (Burnaston made), Hyundai Sonata, Kia Magentis, but not much else normally available here, maybe the Mazda MX5 which really hasn't changed that much.

 

The rise of the company and lease cars and idiot private buyers who think that dozens of electronic toys and stability systems is a good thing has bolloxed most euro clone shit for me, and jaysus they're getting uglier than ever now.

 

Nothing considered European made, except the above Avensis up to late 09 (when it gained a fuckin electric parking brake on the new model), and the Transit engined Defender.

 

 

Now this is the car for me, still made up to very recently but usually as Troop Carriers,

 

http://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/japan%20car/toyota/land+cruiser/15077200/

 

http://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/japan%20car/toyota/landcruiser+70/14968834/

 

Health Warning...the above site can cause serious damage to your wallet, mucho desirable Japanese chod to be found not normally seen here, plus Facelift Merc W124 E500s..phwoar.

[dollywobbler]

It's an interesting questin. Will future autoshite be full of now-current cars, or will be all still be living in the existing 80s/90s dreamland? Those are the key years for me, as it's when I grew up. I don't have a relationship with anything post-2000 so I can't see me being particularly interested in it.

 

I've had 2CVs since I was 18 having always liked them, and currently own a Rover 400 that I'm enjoying because my dad had one.

 

Mind you, he never had a Primera and I want one, so perhaps I am open to other shite purely on cost grounds.

[Lukas]

Another reason why I like to drive newer cars as daily drivers is because life is easier with them. I am not interested in them, but I don´t worry about them too. I drive them in the usually reckless traffic through Vienna without worrying much. I park them in a congested car-park without worrying because it´s comprehensively insured. I drive behind the grit-lorry having it salted completely without worrying.

 

If I drove an 80s-car which I love and care for, I could not sleep one night, knowing I have it parked on the street here.

 

So spending more money on a newer car I am not interested in makes me feel free. Sounds funny, but that´s the way it is.

 

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[stilo_active]

It is mainly a choice for me but there's also a bit of the skint problem going on as well. I started off at 17 with a 14 year old Fiat Uno which I loved. I then went on to get a really good job and started going for newer stuff and more decent stuff. I then worked at a franchised dealership so had the new stuff every couple of years because at the time, financially, it made sense and the thing I had set up with the employer meant precious little money changed hands for each new one. However, whilst having these newer cars I really had an itch to scratch and bought chod to go alongside my new stuff.

 

However, internal politics got in the way, and many factors happened which resulted in me leaving the dealership. I took a substantial pay cut, went to another job and this was all going on at the time my wife was expecting to give birth. Sold the newer cars for some capital for our child and living in general, bought chod to "tide us over" and been in chod ever since. Wife loves the chod too, and she too doesn't see the point in buying new stuff as she's been burnt before with it.

 

I generally tend to choose wisely and get stuff that's had as much work as possible already done so it will at least last a few more years. If I get the feeling something is about to go tits up, or feels like it is, I'll get rid and get another. Really paid off for the Rover 25 as we've not had to spend very much on that in nearly a year and a half. Same with the Hyundai. Other plus points with chod is not worrying where to park it, I can do the pre-school nursery run thingy without worrying that some tart or twat in their Datsun Qashpoint or other some such SUV nonsense is going to park close to it, on it or over it.

 

My boy, who is now three, seems to like the older stuff as well. He recently referred to a new Peugeot as "disgusting" and a new VW as "rusty and not nice"

[Wilko220]

Choice, completely.

 

If I won the Euromillions, I know exactly what I'd do - spend loads of money on good quality storage / garage space and buy more chod.

 

The only car I really covet but am unlikely to be able to afford to have in the foreseeable future is one of these

 

 

In fact, the person in the picture is me in about 40 years time, when I have won some kind of jackpot.

[chaseracer]

Ooh, Serck plates!  

 

[Cavcraft]

If I won the lottery I'd defo go all out and buy some high end shit (Lotus Carlton, some sort of Aston Martin etc) but I'd also defo have a massive yard full of shit cars, too. 

 

I like to think I'm a shiter by choice, I just love crap cars it really is an addiction.

[cort16]

 

I like to think I'm a shiter by choice, I just love crap cars it really is an addiction.

 

I don't think anyones going to argue with that given your recent stock list.

[Angrydicky]

If I won the lottery I'd get my name down for a new Morgan 3 wheeler. Apart from that, buy MOAR chod and decent storage for it. I'd have the full Austin 'Counties' set for a start - even the rare ones such as Atlantic convertible, A40 Sports, Dorset, Hampshire, Hereford coupe etc. Jowett Javelin, Trumpet Mayflower, PA + PB Cresta/Velox. Oh and a Tatra T-600. I'd then have a Marina, early SD1, Citroen Dyane and a Fiat 127 for the 70's. Representing the 80's I'd have a couple of Maestros/Montegos/Metros, Talbot/Chrysler Alpine, Solara and an early MK2 Cavalier saloon. Oh and some pre-war stuff as well.

 

Supercars don't interest me.

[Negative Creep]

My current car is the most modern and least shite I've ever owned, but would want a brand new one for the following reasons:

 

Don't want to get stuck in a massive finance agreement. Every single car I've ever had was paid by cash out of money that was already in my bank.

 

99% of them are dull as anything

 

I'd be bored of it within weeks, but stuck with it for years

 

What I'd save in repairs I'd more than lose in depreciation

 

 

 

Even if I won the lottery II'd still want almost exclusively pree-200 stuff, and at the very most buy a 10 year old Mondeo or something if I wanted to go incognito (then give it away to a fellow member to avoid selling things)

[catsinthewelder]

Much like Hillman Imp I find middle aged cars to be too much of a financial liability,  that leaves new stuff which I can't afford and don't really want or chod which I do.

 

The main decision that I make is whether to buy a 15 year old banger for £350 or stretch to a 20-30 year old borderline classic for a bit more,  cheap insurance tends to mean that it's the latter despite knowing that they'll need more work doing.

 

I don't think Lukas is being fair with his comparison of his family sized Mazda 6 to his older executive cars. The bigger cars are going to cost more to run and if you have them serviced with a competent mechanic they shouldn't throw up any more problems than their newer equivalents.  This is why I tend not to buy executive cars.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

I've had 15-20k cars and consider myself reckless although one of them (an 840Ci) was bloody lush. For me, £1000 is top upper prestige limit for a daily shitter and I want....no, I DEMAND leather and working airs for that. I basically hate spending money on cars. I can afford something very nice but there is just a mental barrier that stops me. I believe it's Gypopikeyrosis.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Btw, keep this under wraps Lads but today I almost got an erection over a 52 plate Volvo S60 in a metallic yellowy gold at £595 ONO.

[Cheggers]

Choice for me - I'd rather spend my hard-earned on on boats 'n' stuff than depreciation on the latest M5/ 911/ whatever.

 

The other advantage of being into shite is this place. This is by far the most friendly, helpful and ego-free corner of the internet. Long may it continue!!

[r.welfare]

What he said. I am currently on my hols in Newquay - the hotel car park is wall to wall XC90s and X5s with wankerplates, plus a 12 year old Avensis with leprosy of the lacquer coat. I am perversely proud it is mine.

[Vin]

At what point does new become chod? In ten years will people be on here wishing they still had that (insert crap car) that they weighed in or whatever?

 

In 2004 I bought a 4 year old Fiat Brava 105 JTD with 40k on the clock. It cost me £3000. no finance or ought, just the cash...That was a big move for me. I ran it for nearly 9 years, letting go of it in Feb 2013 with 280k on the clock. to my sister, when I got a 99 Marea weekend that was the car I wanted in 2004...Now I still have the Marea, but I have also got the Brava back as my sister now has a Alfa 156. I was gonna take it back for scrapping, but it now sits in a lock-up I rent and I can't see it going anywhere soon...

[r.welfare]

The buy at x years old and run into the ground argument gets interesting now because of the disposable nature and long service intervals of moderns, plus the likelihood that previous owners not have looked after the car properly.

 

Neither of my two heaps are dead but I wonder if something fiscally significant is brewing - the Avensis' complicated manifold/double cat feels like it's blocking up (type approved pattern part £275 plus fitting - perhaps I should try removing its innards with a jack handle first), or maybe the Accord will lunch its autobox.

 

But what to go for next (assuming Bobthebeard doesn't sell me his Accord after all)? Seems to me most moderns (2005 onward) have some kind of weakness, even if you stick with a petrol engine - the electronic parking brake being a prime example. Honest John (why is he so condescending these days?) seems to believe the design life of a new car is seven years, but surely that's somewhat pessimistic.

 

No doubt Forddeliverboy will extol the virtues of the 20+ year old W124 diesel but for most of us that's not a realistic proposition (for our spouses to drive at least - even though we are grateful they are not withholding marital pleasures because we have not signed up on tick for a new XC90).

 

Hell, I was even looking at a CAT D 59 plate Megane 1.6 petrol earlier for £2600 (that a couple of hours with a buffer could have had back to near mint) thinking "how bad could that be?"...

[DodgyBastard]

I'm just poor... Also I'm a reverse car snob. As soon as I take a car into work and my workmates say it's well smart or cool I know I'm doing something wrong...

I thought this forum was just Pistonheads for poor people...

[Partridge]

No and yes.

 

I can't afford new cars/middle aged cars, but don't want to because I don't like them.

[forddeliveryboy]

No doubt Forddeliverboy will extol the virtues of the 20+ year old W124 diesel but for most of us that's not a realistic proposition (for our spouses to drive at least - even though we are grateful they are not withholding marital pleasures because we have not signed up on tick for a new XC90).

 

I don't suggest you should give your wife or gf something scruffy, but I'd be suspicious if a female didn't want to be seen in anything more than nine years old simply due to the registration letter - I mean, what does that say and suggest about character or what could be round the corner? If someone offered me a decent Peugeot 406 diesel complete with someone who maintained it for free, I'd jump at it.

 

In this world of so-called equality, if females haven't wanted to use smart, well-maintained and reliable cars, then I offer them the choice of the market place. It's not as if they don't have their own money.

[Sloth in a bowl]

Possibly - what do we think are the finest machines, post 2007?

 

In 20 years time, somebody on here will be drooling with excitement over their newly purchased 2014 Dacia Sandero in white with unpainted bumpers.

[sheffcortinacentre]

newest thing I've owned is a 94 3.8 mustang last year.

 

otherwise my day to day running is in one of my mk3 cortina's newest I own is a pair of 81 mk5's

[wuvvum]

 

My boy, who is now three, seems to like the older stuff as well. He recently referred to a new Peugeot as "disgusting"

 

Nowt wrong with the lad's eyes, then...

 

 

It's a bit of a mixture of reasons for me.  I've always had a soft spot for old crap cars, but I think that's because I realised from quite a young age that that is all I'd be able to afford when I started driving.  I used to trawl through the classifieds in the local rag drooling over rusty old Fiat 128s and Chevettes.  I was interested in new cars too though, and devoured modern car mags whenever I could.

 

I think I completely lost interest in modern cars probably starting around ten years ago, when I realised that new cars had become so bloated, over-complicated and impossible to fix that I had no desire to own one.  I now quite frequently see a new car driving on the road and have absolutely no idea what it is, which is incomprehensible people who knew me as a kid.

 

I'm also tight.  I have an adequate income and an adequate credit rating and could probably sign myself up to buy a (relatively basic) new car on the knock, but when I could go out and buy myself a whole, roadworthy car for not much more than a monthly payment, it just seems to me like a huge waste of money (although having said that, some relatively modern cars are getting stupidly cheap now - viz. Billy's Punto).  And although I'm far from the world's greatest mechanic, I have a far better chance of fixing older stuff myself rathern than having to pay someone else to do it.

 

Another thing is that I prefer to drive old cars.  I like having to actually drive, rather than basically have the car do everything for me.  Anything from about 1965 to mid '90s is fine - or even older than that in small doses, although I'm not sure I could do an Angrydicky and drive everywhere in a 60-year-old Austin.  Also, the old stuff has got far more expensive in recent years, so it's no longer possible to pick up a T&T'd Hillman Minx or Triumph 1300 for 350 quid like I used to all the time ten years ago.

[petr]

I just like cars to much, Also like them to have character most mdern cars or new cars that I can afford I would nt want.

I now have a Fairway Cab as my chod car its just thr job lots to tinker with very different to any thing modern. This one even has the aproval of the wife! Who likes it as its big and has a comfey back seat. I have a modern car that is at the other extream but has chare