John F Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 ^ Lovely bike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 On private roads, obvs. Dave_Q 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 ^ not bad for 1500 rpm Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 220mile ride out down to Coventry today, sat & watched an Avro Shackleton run up three engines (no3 wouldn't start). Was a good day out, I'd forgot what it was like to be warm on a bike! Annoyingly though on the way home I got proof the newer style air filter that superseded the proper ones does restrict the bike a bit. I've always felt it was slightly down on power since being unable to get the proper ones & today I proved that on a private road it only shows 158 flat out when it used to show 163. For some reason the later bikes got an air filter with a smaller intake & a longer trumpet to restrict the flow. Jazoli, red5, Cavcraft and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Honda's only running on two cylinders Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepingJesus Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 No pics sadly, as my phone was elsewhere, but I followed a gorgeous red and yellow flat track style XS650 into Kirkcaldy this morning. Sounded godly and smelt nice too. Did give the rider a thumbs up which seemed to confuse him a bit... yellowperil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtd2000 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 scomaspeed.jpg On private roads, obvs. That's an indicated 4 mph faster than my Lexmoto ZSB 125 Cavcraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Anyone follow Moto GP ? twosmoke300, Arthur Foxhake and warren t claim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazoli Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 220mile ride out down to Coventry today, sat & watched an Avro Shackleton run up three engines (no3 wouldn't start). Was a good day out, I'd forgot what it was like to be warm on a bike! Annoyingly though on the way home I got proof the newer style air filter that superseded the proper ones does restrict the bike a bit. I've always felt it was slightly down on power since being unable to get the proper ones & today I proved that on a private road it only shows 158 flat out when it used to show 163. For some reason the later bikes got an air filter with a smaller intake & a longer trumpet to restrict the flow.I had a good run out with the usual suspects and on the way home I also tested the FZ1 and it got to an indicated 17.2 mph before hitting the limiter, which was nice (I've downgeared it a bit) and it now feels like a litre bike as it was a bit limp beforehand, I think I'll fit a PC3 and a map to see if that makes it any better, would be nice to see 150 rwhp but it's not strictly necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I really must keep an eye out over there for such events. I never bother to look since I got banned though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Oh useless uninteresting fact, my GSX ticked over 115k as well today. UltraWomble and Jazoli 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazoli Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I really must keep an eye out over there for such events. I never bother to look since I got banned though. We are out every other weekend unless one or two of us (not me) is racing but its usually arranged on the day or the night before because of the weather, we have stopped with the open invitations on BB as there has been quite a few muppets turn up who can't ride for shit but you are welcome to join us, I will let you know when we are out next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Cheers, I'll try to make one or two of them. Have you still got my number to let me know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 That's an indicated 4 mph faster than my Lexmoto ZSB 125 Bigger engine in mine though, so no excuse! Still pondering having it tuned (+4BHP or something, plus lots more torque etc) but the cost is daft, so will possibly buy a two stroke LML instead as a garage fwend for the Scomadi. UltraWomble and Fabergé Greggs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I took a look at the air filter in my 14 today & the differences between the proper old K2 air filter and the later ones which are all you can get now are pretty obvious in the first pic. A bit of thinking later & by running my angle grinder around the outside of the trumpet I cut the four spot welds holding that restrictive trumpet in. Pulled it out, filed the edge of the hole smooth by hand (with the filter upside down so the bits fell out) and that should be that. Test rides will occur at some point, but I'm confident it'll have fixed it. Shame I can't replicate the small intake trumpet to smooth the air, but the solid section at the top of the filter (which the original doesn't have) is about the same depth so should do the same job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazoli Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 That's definitely a restriction there, I can't understand why they would make it like that to be honest unless Suzuki detuned or retuned the bike in its later life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 The air filter changed about the same time the Bandit 1250 came out, so I guess they wanted to make that faster as sales of 14s were never huge & it'd move more customers over before they stopped selling the 14. Side by side there is bugger all in it between the two, early 14s have the edge on the Bandit but the later ones don't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 didnt do anything today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 ..... Jazoli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtd2000 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Bigger engine in mine though, so no excuse! Still pondering having it tuned (+4BHP or something, plus lots more torque etc) but the cost is daft, so will possibly buy a two stroke LML instead as a garage fwend for the Scomadi. I'm sure the speedo on the Lexmoto is very optimistic! Have you not been scouring the internet for a smashed up Burgman and then just bang that engine in? Just did a quick google and this article came up: https://www.pressreader.com/uk/scootering/20180220/283519386349933 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Update, the modded air filter does work better, it pulls noticeably harder in normal riding. It still bogs down a touch at full throttle & speeds up as I back off, reminds of a blocked high pressure filter (it's not, it's new) so I'll try some injector cleaner to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Oh useless uninteresting fact, my GSX ticked over 115k as well today.Cb500 13 plate clicked 44k on way back from London yesterday Only had it two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzy Woking Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Bike batteries are shite-had the Motobatt batteries fail on both my Guzzi and KTM over winter. Both were low on cranking power. Charged them both up but they discharge fairly quickly. Replacement batteries on the way, but next year they are being taken off and stored indoors in the warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Q Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I'm sure the speedo on the Lexmoto is very optimistic! Have you not been scouring the internet for a smashed up Burgman and then just bang that engine in? Just did a quick google and this article came up: https://www.pressreader.com/uk/scootering/20180220/283519386349933Had a quick scan and that really doesn't sound like just banging it in! Looks like quite a lot of fabrication required, although a carb version may have been easier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Motobat batteries are junk . Great crank amps when new but don’t last 5 mins . Don’t think you can go too far wrong with a Yuasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRover Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Yuasa bike batteries seem a completely different kettle of fish to the car versions, never had one come back faulty when the shop used to sell them, mind we always filled and did the initial charge for the customer when they were sold. twosmoke300 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
They_all_do_that_sir Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Motobat batteries are junk . Great crank amps when new but don’t last 5 mins . Don’t think you can go too far wrong with a YuasaAgreed, the motobat from my ZZR died over winter even with a trickle charger on. Yuasa I had in my XJ lasted me years and was still going strong when I sold the bike. Sent from my F3211 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 My 14 came with a 2nd hand Yuasa, it lasted ten years & about 90k without ever seeing a charger. In running issues news, it's about 80% fixed. bogs down a touch at high throttle & low revs but that's all. Yes I know I shouldn't, but with the secondary butterflies etc it's always behaved perfectly when doing so. Once I get some new pipes for my vacuum gauges I'll balance the throttles & reset both TPS. That along with the injector cleaner I've put in it should solve things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy18s Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I'll just leave this here...And a cheap project for someone Cavcraft, Fat_Pirate, pilninggas and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtd2000 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Had a quick scan and that really doesn't sound like just banging it in! Looks like quite a lot of fabrication required, although a carb version may have been easier? Yeah, I agree it's not the simple drop in option, by any stretch of the imagination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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