The Bikeshite Thread

[Liggle]

My old chicken chaser is on the road. Been off the road since 1980, 30mph never felt so fast!

[Stinkwheel]

There’s been a lot of tinkering with the 200LC the last couple of weeks. Got it all running nicely at long last, just done a plug chop from flat in 3rd and it’s a nice ash grey/light brown. The upgraded (triumph branded but actually nissin calliper is a real must with the 200cc’s - it’s surprisingly rapid.

 

[Jerzy Woking]

A mate has an LC350 that now wears Triumph TT600 front brake calipers and master cylinder. Bought from eBay, complete with braided hoses, for much less than a seal kit and pistons for the standard calipers. Surprisingly they were a straight bolt on and bleed job. 

[Stinkwheel]

  On 19/06/2024 at 16:46, Jerzy Woking said:

A mate has an LC350 that now wears Triumph TT600 front brake calipers and master cylinder. Bought from eBay, complete with braided hoses, for much less than a seal kit and pistons for the standard calipers. Surprisingly they were a straight bolt on and bleed job. 

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Yep, this is same calliper, r/h only obviously. I was told it would be overbraked, but it’s not at all, it’s 👍 

 

[Jerzy Woking]

  On 19/06/2024 at 16:50, Stinkwheel said:

Yep, this is same calliper, r/h only obviously. I was told it would be overbraked, but it’s not at all, it’s 👍 

 

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Mates LC350 the same, he thought it could be overdoing it. Says the braking need little pressure and have loads of feel.

Another friends son had a 125cc Sinnis, and that had twin discs as standard. Quite pointless on something so underpowered.

 

[twosmoke300]

Yeh I’ve fitted triumph calipers to a few bikes . Mainly to replace the wanky 6 pots on zx6r’s etc 

[catsinthewelder]

I used to be of the opinion that you could have too much braking available but it's better than the alternative (and the 125 takes nearly as much stopping from 60mph as the 600).

[scdan4]

Sun came out 

[Dave_Q]

Just listed my ex's ER6 here if any use to anyone. Currently A2 restricted but can be removed in seconds. Also interested in recommendations for a lightweight 250-400cc she can replace it with. She did her A2 test on a Z400 but the budget is whatever she gets back on this.

 

 

[Sham]

You should be able to get a z300 in budget with a bit of searching and a little luck, and they're delightful.

I quite like an ER6, and it should fetch close to the £1500 I would expect.

[Snake Charmer]

  On 19/06/2024 at 18:49, twosmoke300 said:

Yeh I’ve fitted triumph calipers to a few bikes . Mainly to replace the wanky 6 pots on zx6r’s etc 

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What do you dislike about the Tokico 6 pots? 

[Dave_Q]

  On 20/06/2024 at 18:48, Sham said:

You should be able to get a z300 in budget with a bit of searching and a little luck, and they're delightful.

I quite like an ER6, and it should fetch close to the £1500 I would expect.

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Thanks, at the time it seemed cheap but it does have a few more scratches than it did.

[Sham]

  On 20/06/2024 at 19:00, Dave_Q said:

Thanks, at the time it seemed cheap but it does have a few more scratches than it did.

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It's problems are cheap enough to fix - though an oil leak is always a worry, admittedly.

[twosmoke300]

  On 20/06/2024 at 18:57, Snake Charmer said:

What do you dislike about the Tokico 6 pots? 

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Piss poor quality generally . Iirc they are anodised then the piston bores machined so they corrode like fuck where the seals go . Time consuming and expensive to rebuild properly too .

Nissin calipers are far better finished and work better 99% of the time . 
6 pots were a passing fad . Wonder how many bikes have them now ?

[Jerzy Woking]

  On 20/06/2024 at 19:48, twosmoke300 said:

Piss poor quality generally . Iirc they are anodised then the piston bores machined so they corrode like fuck where the seals go . Time consuming and expensive to rebuild properly too .

Nissin calipers are far better finished and work better 99% of the time . 
6 pots were a passing fad . Wonder how many bikes have them now ?

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Had a pair of Harrison Billet six pots on my Fireblade. Think the replacement pads were over £120, and that was a few years ago. Good brakes though, did slow the bike really quickly.

[twosmoke300]

The best brakes I’ve had on a bike was on my ex wife’s 929 blade . 
Closely followed by my TT600 . 
Both nissins 4 pots but the blade was a higher spec caliper . 
The quality of the finish and anodising on those was just outstanding 

[twosmoke300]

  On 20/06/2024 at 20:03, Jerzy Woking said:

Had a pair of Harrison Billet six pots on my Fireblade. Think the replacement pads were over £120, and that was a few years ago. Good brakes though, did slow the bike really quickly.

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That’s a blast from the past . Fitted to every awful , jacked up rear , gixxer street fighter 

[Snake Charmer]

  On 20/06/2024 at 19:48, twosmoke300 said:

Piss poor quality generally . Iirc they are anodised then the piston bores machined so they corrode like fuck where the seals go . Time consuming and expensive to rebuild properly too .

Nissin calipers are far better finished and work better 99% of the time . 
6 pots were a passing fad . Wonder how many bikes have them now ?

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With you on the corrosion, time consuming and expensive to rebuild. I have seen the same corrosion on many bike calipers over the years with similar machining. I rebuilt a set of CB900F2C calipers for a customer that were about 4 years old and the outer dust seals had been almost fully pushed past the piston by corrosion build up. The corrosion was more of a growth from the alloy and once cleared there was little to no pitting in the seal undercuts, more of a dark corrosion stain. I really expected the calipers to be scrap and fit a new pair but a set of seals revived them, bizarrely the pistons were perfect.

My '95 Speed Triple 4 pot calipers despite a change of calipers then seals, pads and bleeding felt underpowered for the bikes weight. A pair of rebuilt Tokico six pots were a big improvement, the first use in anger had me shaving speed way before any braking point I had ever dared with the 4 pots. 

[twosmoke300]

  On 20/06/2024 at 21:20, Snake Charmer said:

With you on the corrosion, time consuming and expensive to rebuild. I have seen the same corrosion on many bike calipers over the years with similar machining. I rebuilt a set of CB900F2C calipers for a customer that were about 4 years old and the outer dust seals had been almost fully pushed past the piston by corrosion build up. The corrosion was more of a growth from the alloy and once cleared there was little to no pitting in the seal undercuts, more of a dark corrosion stain. I really expected the calipers to be scrap and fit a new pair but a set of seals revived them, bizarrely the pistons were perfect.

My '95 Speed Triple 4 pot calipers despite a change of calipers then seals, pads and bleeding felt underpowered for the bikes weight. A pair of rebuilt Tokico six pots were a big improvement, the first use in anger had me shaving speed way before any braking point I had ever dared with the 4 pots. 

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Prob more to do with them being a fresh set of rebuilt brakes and fresh fluid rather than the 6 pots being particularly amazing 

[Stinkwheel]

  On 20/06/2024 at 20:09, twosmoke300 said:

That’s a blast from the past . Fitted to every awful , jacked up rear , gixxer street fighter 

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They did look a bit, well, kind of over bling those Harrison callipers

[twosmoke300]

  On 20/06/2024 at 21:42, Stinkwheel said:

They did look a bit, well, kind of over bling those Harrison callipers

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Yeh . Six pads per caliper too iirc 

[Cavcraft]

20 miles to go until the  FS1 is run in. Cannot wait to open it up properly.  It's pulling so much better over standard, 2nd and 3rd gear are an absolute blast and that's without going gung-ho.

Wheeled the RD out yesterday to get and get something from MachineMart, so stopped outside the long defunct 'Everything But Bikes' motorcycle spares/accessories place for a photo.

[Rustybullethole]

Red wheels. Fastasfuck.

[martc]

  On 19/06/2024 at 17:04, Jerzy Woking said:

Mates LC350 the same, he thought it could be overdoing it. Says the braking need little pressure and have loads of feel.

Another friends son had a 125cc Sinnis, and that had twin discs as standard. Quite pointless on something so underpowered.

 

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  On 19/06/2024 at 22:46, catsinthewelder said:

I used to be of the opinion that you could have too much braking available but it's better than the alternative (and the 125 takes nearly as much stopping from 60mph as the 600).

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Looking at Sinnis website, their current 125's weigh around 140kg, an RD 350 LC weighs 154kg! With an 80kg rider at 60mph physics really doesn't care about the 14kg difference.

[UltraWomble]

  On 19/06/2024 at 22:46, catsinthewelder said:

I used to be of the opinion that you could have too much braking available but it's better than the alternative (and the 125 takes nearly as much stopping from 60mph as the 600).

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Having thrown myself off a RXS100 with drums front and rear back in the day rather than hit the back end of a tipper truck I have the view there can be  no such thing as "over braked"

[Snake Charmer]

  On 20/06/2024 at 21:24, twosmoke300 said:

Prob more to do with them being a fresh set of rebuilt brakes and fresh fluid rather than the 6 pots being particularly amazing 

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I had a 900 Daytona for parts, swapped the calipers and master cylinder over then rebuilt the originals and replaced the discs hoping for an improvement. I just accepted that was the best I was going to get out of them and they eventually went on a friends Trident Sprint when the 6 pots went on.

I wouldn't call the 6 pots amazing but certainly an upgrade over the original setup and suited to the bikes weight and hp.

[Jerzy Woking]

  On 20/06/2024 at 21:53, twosmoke300 said:

Yeh . Six pads per caliper too iirc 

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Cost me in excess of £120 for the brake pads for a pair of them. Fantastic brakes though.

[5speedracer]

  On 11/06/2024 at 13:20, MrGTI6 said:

I paid somewhere in the region of £900 which included the theory, CBT, 5-days' training and MOD1/MOD2. This was in 2022 in the south east. No regrets, my instructor was excellent and there were only 2 of us and we both progressed at a similar pace.

Anyway, celebrated my birthday today on my own with a nice long ride out down to the coast. Headed down to Rye, then towards Hastings via Pett Level (where I stopped for a short stroll along the beach to stretch my legs) before heading back home.

Despite being a 25-year-old bike, the Triumph never missed a beat. Aside from the flat battery first thing in the morning of course, which was a result of me not using it enough!

I really do need to invest in some ear plugs. Any recommendations would be great!

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If you are at any events and they're doing an offer on fitted ear plugs they're brilliant.

[hairnet]

Ffs hehe

[Rustybullethole]

Rode 240 miles today and currently in my tent on the side of this valley in Wales. 

Mostly sunny and dry on the way here apart from the last half hour. Rain sounds nice on the tent.