Must be something you hate about cars?

[bunglebus]

I love cars. Well, I love older cars, 1940s to 1990s I'd say, I do not like the unimaginative overgrown SUV blobs that seem to be all car manufacturers are interested in making now.

When I was growing up, from a young age into my 20s, there were too many interesting cars out there to be able to possibly experience all the ones I liked the look of, now I just don't know what I'd buy if I needed to replace my car, as I don't like any of them. Cars are just not the same any more. 

I like that cars were machines that could be repaired or modified at home, using manual tools. Now everything's either electronic or made of plastic that breaks.

So that's what I hate, and I'd also add I hate when you're trying to carry out a repair and it's fighting you, rusty chewed up fasteners in a place you can't see and only touch with the tip of one finger. At that point I hate all cars and want to pay someone else to fight with it. But I rarely do, because they don't do it to my standards.

[Pieman]

Features on moderns that think they know better than the driver.  Don't beep at me telling me I'm sitting in my seat with no seatbelt on, don't flash something up on the dashboard telling me to change gear cos I'm "not driving economically", don't beep because someone has walked close to my car even when it's not moving anywhere, don't do it cos I've stopped behind another car in traffic and you think I've manoeuvred close to something.  If I wanted something to drive me that knows better than me, I'd take a train.

Parking charges.  I pay enough to keep my car on the road, I shouldn't be charged through the nose by some faceless camera-controlled system to keep it off it.

CUNTS who spend all their fucking time on their fucking phones while driving.  If I was in power, the punishment would be to be pulled over and have your car's bonnet repeatedly slammed on your head.

[New POD]

5 hours ago, MikeR said:

people driving SUV sized cars who would be out of their depth in a Mini ...  

why are modern cars so big ?  

why so many fiddly bits that can go wrong that no one can fix ?

Have you seen the size of the baby seat your great nephew sits in, in the back of your nephew's massive SUV?.  There's barely any room for the front seats.  And getting 2 adult passengers on the back seat next to him is a fecking squeeze. 

Mind you the boot is moosive 

[Popsicle]

I agree with @delux re washing vehicles. I occasionally wash the van, being black it looks lovely* when clean, until I next go out or it rains that weird sandy rain, then its filthy again. 

* if you ignore the rusty bits.

The tech on modern cars is really not for me. I don't trust it or like it, when we had a 24 plate MG it did an emergency stop more than once for no obvious reason. I dislike the electric parking brake/auto hold on the Pisshat too, also telling me what gear to be in, 6th at 40 is 1000 revs you stupid twat, I'll leave it in 4th if you don't mind.

I know I sound like a grumpy old twat, that's because I am - I dislike change.

[RayMK]

Inadequate compliance of suspension bushes on moderns, inadequate suspension travel, inadequate ground clearance on the few ordinary saloons and hatchbacks still available new, inadequate tyre sidewall depth, all of which leads to punctures, cracked alloys and a lack of comfort on most journeys within the UK.  Presumably the computer models used by designers assume billard table smooth surfaces, wide roads and an obsession with the Nürburgring. 

[Dyslexic Viking]

Hard and uncomfortable seats this is a big problem on cars in the last few decades and I hate it. My favorite seats are the Volvo 240 and 740 and the Mercedes W110/W111.

Hard suspension is also something I hate. Suspension should be soft.

Low ground clearance is also a hate, so are low profile tires, unnecessarily large wheels on cars.

[warch]

I don't know that I do love cars, there is something quite depressing about driving somewhere, all the congestion, people driving aggressively or too slowly or being inconsiderate. There is something I like about the pre car infrastructure especially in towns and cities. I have to admit that I think Wales have it right with their 20mph zones in urban areas, once you've adjusted to the idea its a lot better for pedestrians. 

I do look forward to a post diesel era where I no longer have someone in a car/van/truck or bus sat idling (needlessly) outside my house, especially at night. 

As someone who hates congestion/traffic and rush hours I love using a bike for travelling, you can linger somewhere knowing that you won't be stuck getting home again and parking is easy too. I deliberately tour on my bike so I don't cane it and enjoy the experience.  

[MikeR]

33 minutes ago, RayMK said:

Inadequate compliance of suspension bushes on moderns, inadequate suspension travel, inadequate ground clearance on the few ordinary saloons and hatchbacks still available new, inadequate tyre sidewall depth, all of which leads to punctures, cracked alloys and a lack of comfort on most journeys within the UK.  Presumably the computer models used by designers assume billard table smooth surfaces, wide roads and an obsession with the Nürburgring. 

 the C1 loved it's little swim over a flooded road last weekend , car behind did not look too sure , axle deep going by the bricks at the side of the road , must admit those back drums don't half hold the water !!! ,The  joy of small city cars , if it stops , you can push it .. 

[New POD]

54 minutes ago, MikeR said:

I just looked up how to change the clutch cable on a Aygo , take the dash out !!!  , I reckon a stanly knife would quicken the job up , once instant hatch in the dash , bit like doing the petrol pump hatch on a Focus .

The thing I hate about cars is a clutch pedal.  We have the technology to have self driving cars, and yet people still think having to change gear is sporty.  No it's shit. 

Yes automatic gearboxes in 1985 were usually a bit shit. I know the 3 speed in my 1.8CDi mk2 cavalier made it a lot crap, but these days they are usually pretty good. 

[goosey]

The way everything is front wheel drive 

[danthecapriman]

I think it’s probably the MOT for me. I hate it! It’s never a problem, but I just hate having to do it and have someone else poking around and making the call. 
I know it’s a one size fits all thing that’s probably stopping all the brain dead sheep out there driving around in death traps but FFS! 
They should set up an exemption where you take your car to a garage, service it yourself and be watched by an examiner. If you can do it ok your MOT exempt!😄 

Oh, well. Not long until my last car hits 40 anyway.

[Snipes]

I hate that I've always been about 10/15 years "behind the curve" with all the cars I like being old. I'd really prefer not to have to deal with "old car issues" but everything I like is getting (really) old. 

[delux]

I think I need to change my OP, I seem to agree with most of the things other people hate just as much as cleaning cars! 😄

[Metal Guru]

9 hours ago, New POD said:

The thing I hate about cars is a clutch pedal.  We have the technology to have self driving cars, and yet people still think having to change gear is sporty.  No it's shit. 

Yes automatic gearboxes in 1985 were usually a bit shit. I know the 3 speed in my 1.8CDi mk2 cavalier made it a lot crap, but these days they are usually pretty good. 

I preferred the old 3 speed in my Dad’s Mk4 Cortina to any CVT out there now.

Like the Auto in the Bini PHEV though. 6 speed so doesn’t  want to change gear all the time and great fun in “manual”.

[Spiny Norman]

Anything festooned with technology not available on a W126 Benz. And any private car with a diseasel engine. 

[Metal Guru]

8 hours ago, danthecapriman said:

I think it’s probably the MOT for me. I hate it! It’s never a problem, but I just hate having to do it and have someone else poking around and making the call. 
I know it’s a one size fits all thing that’s probably stopping all the brain dead sheep out there driving around in death traps but FFS! 
They should set up an exemption where you take your car to a garage, service it yourself and be watched by an examiner. If you can do it ok your MOT exempt!😄 

Oh, well. Not long until my last car hits 40 anyway.

Most service items have nothing to do with the MOT, so what’s the point of an examiner watching you change the oil for example? The ones that are relevant are mainly checks , so again why would an examiner check you check something ?

[danthecapriman]

5 hours ago, Metal Guru said:

Most service items have nothing to do with the MOT, so what’s the point of an examiner watching you change the oil for example? The ones that are relevant are mainly checks , so again why would an examiner check you check something ?

Competency. If you’re capable of looking after your own car yourself then you should be good not bothering with MOT’s. 
Basically to weed out the people that can’t even wire a plug themselves (and there’s lots of those people around!) who are most likely also the same people driving around with bald tyres because ‘my MOT will find them next year’. 
My thinking is if you can and do know how to work on your car yourself then you don’t really need an MOT test. 

[sierraman]

14 minutes ago, danthecapriman said:

Competency. If you’re capable of looking after your own car yourself then you should be good not bothering with MOT’s. 
Basically to weed out the people that can’t even wire a plug themselves (and there’s lots of those people around!) who are most likely also the same people driving around with bald tyres because ‘my MOT will find them next year’. 
My thinking is if you can and do know how to work on your car yourself then you don’t really need an MOT test. 

I know but there’s a lot of people that have a surfeit of enthusiasm over skill. I’ve seen some right lash ups over the years, a few years ago a supposedly ‘restored’ Escort Mk1, copper brake pipe resting on a flange, patches on jacking points not seam welded etc. There’s some exceptionally good DIYers out there like what you’ve done on your Capri but there’s probably twice as many again that I’d not trust with a wheelbarrow. 

[Pauly.22]

22 hours ago, eddyramrod said:

"Ford Tax" which has long-since expanded to cover models of Fords; and incidentally "Old Car Tax" which is pretty darn busy doing the same thing.

OK the models are a bit niche, but to me, and it seems several on here, it's an important niche.  But come on, sellers, dealers, traders, be realistic!  We can't all be retired Glam Rock stars!

 

In short: why is every-bloody-thing so fucking expensive?

The Ford tax is out of control. £100k for a Ford escort.

glad I bought mine before it went mad. As the cars don’t justify the prices. 
 

 

[New POD]

28 minutes ago, danthecapriman said:

Competency. If you’re capable of looking after your own car yourself then you should be good not bothering with MOT’s. 
Basically to weed out the people that can’t even wire a plug themselves (and there’s lots of those people around!) who are most likely also the same people driving around with bald tyres because ‘my MOT will find them next year’. 
My thinking is if you can and do know how to work on your car yourself then you don’t really need an MOT test. 

Imagine if the law prevented anyone unqualified from fixing MOT repairs. 

A bit like aerospace where everyone has a stamp, and you can only stamp for jobs you've passed an acceptable standard to. 

 

[eddyramrod]

15 hours ago, Snipes said:

I hate that I've always been about 30/35 years "behind the curve" with all the cars I like being old. I'd really prefer not to have to deal with "old car issues" but everything I like is getting (really) old. 

FTFY

...or at least, to meet my preferences, but 35 years old now is only 1990.  Even that is a bit too young really.  The Ford Sierra, for example, a car I dislike with a passion despite RWD, had already been facelifted by then!  Almost everything else had gone over to FWD, which is cause for a Two Minutes Silence.

Also, automatics?  Yes please, every time, but four speeds are quite enough.  If your car "needs" six or eight, that just means your torque band is too narrow, probably less than 1000 rpm.  What fucking use is that?  I want mine available from about 2000 up to the far side of 4 or even 5 - as experienced in any proper Detroit V8.

[FakeConcern]

21 hours ago, Fabergé Greggs said:

I hate how big they are. It's annoying that you need a whole parking space for them or that they take up a whole garage. You can't just stop wherever you like or turn off the road if you feel like it.  When they break they're huge unmanageable bits of metal.

That's why I got into scooters and motorbikes. Then I started disliking all the various fuels and oils and general nasty stuff that you need to keep them running. 

More and more it seems my collection of bicycles gives me the most pleasure. Soz guys. 

I cycle a lot on smallish quiet roads and along one particular road nearby, I used to be able to cycle next to Mrs Concern most of the time, just singling up to let cars pass. Now (I've used this road for over 20 years btw) I have to single up most times a car comes towards us as they are so big and the drivers seem incapable of keeping to edge of the road anyway!

18 hours ago, New POD said:

The thing I hate about cars is a clutch pedal.  We have the technology to have self driving cars, and yet people still think having to change gear is sporty.  No it's shit. 

Yes automatic gearboxes in 1985 were usually a bit shit. I know the 3 speed in my 1.8CDi mk2 cavalier made it a lot crap, but these days they are usually pretty good. 

I'm sure you're right and Mrs Concern preferred it when she had an auto, but for me they always seem to be in the wrong gear at any given time. I know it probably means I've only used oldish auto cars and that really I'm in the wrong gear at any given time haha!

[sierraman]

15 minutes ago, New POD said:

Imagine if the law prevented anyone unqualified from fixing MOT repairs. 

A bit like aerospace where everyone has a stamp, and you can only stamp for jobs you've passed an acceptable standard to. 

 

The lunatic at the garage my father in law used to use advocated for this. Where do you end with it though? A tradesman isn’t going to be faffing about with small jobs like putting a hanging basket bracket up, he’d have to be getting £150 to make it even worth turning up. 

[loserone]

The drivers of them, especially those who think they are better than everyone else and don't need to be held to the same standards, or who can't adapt to progress.

[danthecapriman]

28 minutes ago, New POD said:

Imagine if the law prevented anyone unqualified from fixing MOT repairs. 

A bit like aerospace where everyone has a stamp, and you can only stamp for jobs you've passed an acceptable standard to. 

 

I’m surprised we’re not at that point yet in this stupid country. The land of red tape, bureaucracy and stupid rules where common sense is outlawed.

Implementing something like that will just drive prices of car repairs ever higher, and probably parts too. It’ll become a license to print money for some. Then of course the gubbermint will see it as a way to get old cars off the roads at the same time. Like I said, I’m surprised they haven’t done it already!😄

[Bmwdumptruck]

Agree with just about everyones comments apart from…

RWD,  nope sorry, FWD is better in so many aspects,  more interior and boot space, less weight, more power at the wheel, and even clutches,.  I’ve done both my Sharans, Partner van and T4 moho on my drive by just jacking the front end up. Last RWD I did was my old escort van many moons back and that was a total pig of a job on 4 axle stands.  
MOTs, I kind of like to have a second person look over my vehicles.  I also quite like the challenge of taking a car down that I’m confident will pass.  And they usually do.  My main guy knows me well and gives a little leverage, although I always message him when I’ve fixed the bits he’s borderline on. My Moho has to go to a different guy, but he also now knows me and is always fair.  

[sierraman]

8 minutes ago, danthecapriman said:

I’m surprised we’re not at that point yet in this stupid country. The land of red tape, bureaucracy and stupid rules where common sense is outlawed.

Implementing something like that will just drive prices of car repairs ever higher, and probably parts too. It’ll become a license to print money for some. Then of course the gubbermint will see it as a way to get old cars off the roads at the same time. Like I said, I’m surprised they haven’t done it already!😄

Correct, if you were the only garage for 15 miles you’d be able to charge £100 plus hours an hour because they’d no choice but to use you. Also you’d be pretty picky with work. 

[Metal Guru]

Seats. Hate flat seats but they don’t make sports (are they still called them bucket seats?), for fat arses.

[nev_jr]

The crash sensor on newer cars. Screams at you when it thinks you're going into the arse of a parked car down an avenue because you have to weave through it. Good idea on paper, not so much in practice. And that gauge that goes from F to E every few weeks, silly idea.

[Soundwave]

2 hours ago, Bmwdumptruck said:

Agree with just about everyones comments apart from…

RWD,  nope sorry, FWD is better in so many aspects,  more interior and boot space, less weight, more power at the wheel, and even clutches,.  I’ve done both my Sharans, Partner van and T4 moho on my drive by just jacking the front end up. Last RWD I did was my old escort van many moons back and that was a total pig of a job on 4 axle stands.  
MOTs, I kind of like to have a second person look over my vehicles.  I also quite like the challenge of taking a car down that I’m confident will pass.  And they usually do.  My main guy knows me well and gives a little leverage, although I always message him when I’ve fixed the bits he’s borderline on. My Moho has to go to a different guy, but he also now knows me and is always fair.  

I've never understood the rabid frothing about RWD on everyday road cars, and how FWD is the source of all evil.

In 99% of everyday driving situations, you're not going to notice the difference between FWD and RWD. Of course on the internet, many car enthusiasts are professional racers who drive to the shops at ten-tenths, with the back end out on every corner, which you can't do in an FWD.

In reality, they're going to be poddling around city streets at 27mph with a lorry in front of them just the same as everyone else, and the driveline of the car is utterly irrelevant.