grogee Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Ok I thought I'd start a thread for the very few two-stroke cars (and vans?) that exist(ed). Obvious ones for startersies: - Trabby - The other one (Wartburg?) - Saab 96 - Suzuki SJ jeep (only learned this the other day from this thread) - One of the Japanese micro vans, Honda Acty maybe? What have I missed? egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobloseven Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Trojan Lloyd (British) DKW There's lots more but I won't spoil it. RayMK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustybullethole Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 face and rainagain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraWomble Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Ford Fiesta Mk 3 M'coli, catsinthewelder, LightBulbFun and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake's Den Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Commer TS3 truck, 2 stroke supercharged opposed piston! Phwoah! RayMK, LightBulbFun, catsinthewelder and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayMK Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Lloyd 200, 300, 400 & 500 (German). Syrena (Polish) Auto Union (German) Subaru 360 (Japanese) Aero (Czechoslovakian) grogee and egg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobloseven Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Are we to include three wheelers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear-in-the-air Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Quite a few early kei cars were 2 stroke: mostly Suzuki, Daihatsu, Subaru, and Mitsubishi. 2 Stroke kei cars were killed in the mid 70s with tightening emissions requirements, and the following change in the kei class up to 550cc. Honda and Mazda avoided 2 stroke engines entirely which helped them when emissions tightened, but did mean they were often slightly down on power compared to their 2 stroke rivals. Suxuki: Suzulight, early Fronte, early Carry, early Jimny Daihatsu: Fellow, early Hijet Subaru 360, 450, R2, early Rex, early Sambar Mitsubishi: early Minica (including pickup, van, saloon and estate forms) These are all roughly 360cc 2 cylinder engines, designed for the kei market, with the exception of the Subaru 450, which is an export version of the 360 with a larger ~425cc engine (yep, I don't know either) grogee, egg and Twiggy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Do commercial vehicles count? (Skip to about 2:00 for the good bit). LightBulbFun, ETCHY, Supernaut and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayMK Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, RayMK said: Lloyd 200, 300, 400 & 500 (German). Syrena (Polish) Auto Union (German) Subaru 360 (Japanese) Aero (Czechoslovakian) I lived in West Germany from 1966-69 (because Dad was in the RAF). Two stroke cars were still very common back then, with many Auto Union 1000 and DKW Juniors being spotted daily, plus the occasional Goggomobile. Most of the Lloyds by then were of the later 4 stroke variety but I did see a couple of 2 strokes. I have never seen a Syrena or Subaru 360 in the flesh. In the 1980s, I and a friend were considering buying a Tatra 603 (rear mounted, air cooled V8, 4 stroke), which was advertised by a chap in Cardiff. We went to see it but did not buy it - common sense over ruled temptation (or was it my wife's veto?). In the chap's large garage were other interesting cars e.g. a Jensen CV8, Skoda Felicia (=soft top early Octavia) and an Aero. The Aero was two stroke and front wheel drive despite looking like a conventional open top1950s sports car. We had never heard of the marque and it's the only one I've ever seen. The Wartburg Knight was a fairly common sight in the UK in the 1970s. In the late 1950s, an old chap who lived near us in Anna Valley (near Andover) was still using a Trojan Utility (2 stroke) as his daily - with solid tyres if I remember correctly (I was about 9 years old at the time). stripped fred and grogee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 surprised no ones mentioned Berkeley yet "Mum I Want a Jaguar E Type!" "we already have an E type at home" E type at home: egg, garethj, AnnoyingPentium and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horriblemercedes Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 The first ones that came to mind for me were Saab and Detroit Diesel What about aeroplanes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saabnut Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Saab two stroke Sonett - the Sonett II grogee, LightBulbFun and RayMK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 how about something a bit more obscure! I mean its got 4 wheels a 2 Stroke Villiers engine! its a Johnstone Miniature coach, and I singled out FPM 404, to show they really where road registered back in the day, and this one is even DVLA live amusingly its registered as a single decker bus and all, can you imagine trying to take it in for an MOT or a DVLA inspection "ha ha very funny with the toy, now wheres the actual bus?" "erm...." hennabm, grogee, Out Run and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 5 hours ago, UltraWomble said: Ford Fiesta Mk 3 Nice try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 To the truck lickers - are you sure your dirty 2 stroke diseasals are four wheels? Four wheels good Six+ wheels bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 3 hours ago, Dobloseven said: Are we to include three wheelers? Please no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsinthewelder Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 4 minutes ago, grogee said: Nice try They built at least one and loads of us saw it at Shitefest 14. LightBulbFun and M'coli 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 Just now, catsinthewelder said: They built at least one and loads of us saw it at Shitefest 14. Sure but you couldn't buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraWomble Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 9 minutes ago, grogee said: Sure but you couldn't buy it With enough money you can buy anything.... And your original post says.... Quote Ok I thought I'd start a thread for the very few two-stroke cars (and vans?) that exist(ed). [/pedant] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Munga. RayMK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 3 hours ago, horriblemercedes said: What about aeroplanes? The Flying Flea. An aerodynamic disaster that was soon banned because it was so dangerous. grogee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 3 hours ago, Asimo said: The Flying Flea. An aerodynamic disaster that was soon banned because it was so dangerous. Forward visibility on that looks... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red5 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 4 hours ago, grogee said: Nice try Haha. Google Orbital Fiesta Mk3. For the background. Oz research. Killed by the cat regs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeRover Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 4 hours ago, grogee said: Nice try Yep they exist, at least in prototype form, Yamaha? engine in them from memory, the police had them for evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out Run Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 7 hours ago, LightBulbFun said: how about something a bit more obscure! I mean its got 4 wheels a 2 Stroke Villiers engine! its a Johnstone Miniature coach, and I singled out FPM 404, to show they really where road registered back in the day, and this one is even DVLA live amusingly its registered as a single decker bus and all, can you imagine trying to take it in for an MOT or a DVLA inspection "ha ha very funny with the toy, now wheres the actual bus?" "erm...." I've seen these on British Pathé. Pretty cool things. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 vauxhall astra mk1- certainly some of them burned oil!🤣 AnnoyingPentium and egg 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffcortinacentre Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 5 hours ago, grogee said: Nice try Several where built a blue on I think was in a period mag on test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobloseven Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Frisky JARC Little Horse/British Anzani Astra/Gill Getabout which led to the Lightburn Zeta. So really smug know it alls can say there was a 2 stroke Astra long before the 2 stroke Fiesta. Barkas Turners of Wolverhampton did a 2 stroke diesel conversion for Land Rovers in the fifties before they did their own engine. Think Theodore Gillam might have one in his shed. Can we have the Marshall and Field Marshall tractors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 Yes I know about the feckin Orbital engine! I worked in Ford Powertrain in the 90s. I was after series production vehicles preferably. Intrigued about a two stroke Land Rover conversion. What was the thinking there? That the standard one wasn't shit enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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