The grumpy thread

[rml2345]

"Miss he gave an opinion that I don't agree with!"

"Miss he started it, he said something that may or may not have been fact."

Etc.

Come on fellas, none of this public service versus private enterprise stuff matters more than the serious discussion of whether 80s Ford beige is more beige than 80s AR beige...

[RedSparrow]

[triumph1300]

Depends if your comparing them both to hearing aid beige...

[trigger]

I like being thick as i don't have a clue what half of you are on about.

[willswitchengage]

Lolz @ VA I think we need a fight fight fight! sub forum like they have on Barryboys.

 

Although the factual economy of Pete's most recent post is irritating, it's probably best to keep schtum.

 

Have some flippant music to lighten the mood

[Guest]

I LIKE CARS

[Lacquer Peel]

I LIKE BICKERING. Wanna fight about it?

[fiatdaft]

I think getting rid of this thread would go along way to help get rid of bickering with keyboard warriors.

[Spiny Norman]

Can I grump about BfuckingT?

 

My internet has been up and down like a whoor's drawers all day and I spent about an hour on the phone to them.

 

I think they've hammered a smaller internet over the top of it so it's working atm, but what really annoyed/amused me was when they phoned me back afterwards to try and sell me their fucking shite BT Vision service and jusrt didn't want to take no for an answer, despite my (perfectly logical IMO) argument that while the internet dropping occasionally is mildly inconvenient, having the same thing happen to the telly if there was a Grand Prix or MotD on would result in major outrage.

 

I suppose I should just be grateful it's working again....

[RedSparrow]

Can I grump about BfuckingT?

 

My internet has been up and down like a whoor's drawers all day and I spent about an hour on the phone to them.

 

I think they've hammered a smaller internet over the top of it so it's working atm, but what really annoyed/amused me was when they phoned me back afterwards to try and sell me their fucking shite BT Vision service and jusrt didn't want to take no for an answer, despite my (perfectly logical IMO) argument that while the internet dropping occasionally is mildly inconvenient, having the same thing happen to the telly if there was a Grand Prix or MotD on would result in major outrage.

 

I suppose I should just be grateful it's working again....

 

Had a similar thing with BT internet.

 

Ola! weee are steying upsteers for zee olympeecs. Can wee borrow your broadband?

Sorry love, it's BT, so I can barely use hotmail. (closes door).

[dollywobbler]

Dear people who don't like the rants in the grumpy thread. Please do not read the grumpy thread. The whole point of the grumpy thread was to sit like a bit tin of rubbish in the corner of the forum so people could use it as a spitoon for vitriol every now and then, without creating ranty threads that clogged up the board.

 

Sod grumpy anyway. There's some Grade A shite appearing on this forum at the moment! Mostly (but not entirely) in estate form.

[willswitchengage]

Reading a monotonous presentation and this probably substantiates a lot of the lazy council workers shizz:

 

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Dear people who don't like the rants in the grumpy thread. Please do not read the grumpy thread. The whole point of the grumpy thread was to sit like a bit tin of rubbish in the corner of the forum so people could use it as a spitoon for vitriol every now and then, without creating ranty threads that clogged up the board.

 

Sod grumpy anyway. There's some Grade A shite appearing on this forum at the moment! Mostly (but not entirely) in estate form.

 

+1. Although there is some philosophical merit in debating the value of being allowed to express grumpiness about other people's grumps.

[Lacquer Peel]

Scottish Water is one of the (or the) last public sector utilities companies left in the UK, they're superb. I got in touch with them about a massive water leak in a derelict mansion, they investigated it and the engineer personally phoned me a few days later. My friend phoned about another massive water leak in a derelict hospital and received a similar response.

[Ross_K]

Dear people who don't like the rants in the grumpy thread. Please do not read the grumpy thread.

 

"+1" as the kids say.

 

Butthurt Report Form

 

I'm filling mine out right now.

 

I found this book in the pub the other night, written in 2004 it's basically a similar rant about Eire's recent political failings re corrution, crap infrastructure and the property bubble, which, er, well we know what happened with the latter. Oh and although you can't really see in the stock image the car he's driving is a BX

 

Hark at him, drinking in fancy pubs with books.

 

Written in 2004 eh? Nobody minded the corruption and waste back then cos they all had 400k mortgages and two new cars in the driveway every year.

 

The author should do a second edition based on what we know now. The extent of government and bank corruption is still coming out of the woodwork.

 

I'd borrow it from my local library except they've got fuck all books.

[rml2345]

Car related grump; Came home to find a hole in Telly's O/S/R lamp due to it being brittle as fuck.

Arsehats

[warren t claim]

 

 

 

Rover went shit because they were nationalised. If Tony Benn hadn't fucked about with Rover they'd quite probably still be going. Unfortunately, the whole BLMC thing in the 60s meant that the whole of BL was run by a vastly swelled and mainly useless middle management that were clueless and would never have happened if Benn and his lot had left it alone. Derek Robinson and his lot merely killed what was left.

 

Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, and Fiat all built some pretty shit cars by a heavily unionised workforce back in the 1970s and unlike Rover those companies still exist today. Why?

[dollywobbler]

The problem with BL is that it was f*cked to start with. Strong leaders like Leonard Lord, William Morris, Lord Austin and William Lyons had either retired, died or got to the 'this is my company so even though I've retired I'm going to meddle with it' stage. The people who replaced them all, with the possible exception of the Jag folks, were simply not up to it. I'm not saying these leaders were perfect, but they pretty much all ran their companies better than their replacements.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, and Fiat all built some pretty shit cars by a heavily unionised workforce back in the 1970s and unlike Rover those companies still exist today. Why?

 

Renault was state-owned until 1996 (and F. Mitterand wasn't quite the French equivalent of Mrs Thatcher). Its huge losses were funded by the hapless French taxpayer.

Citroen was bankrupt and had to be rescued through a shotgun wedding with Peugeot.

FIAT enjoyed massive diversification, owning everything from Alitalia to Olivetti, and made money in S. America as well as in licensing fees from the Eastern bloc.

With the possible exception of some inherited Talbots, Peugeot didn't really produce any shit cars until the nineties. They also had local production and massive sales in Argentina, most of Africa, Near/Middle East...

 

None of the above applied to BL.

[ruffgeezer]

FathaRuff works in a satellite office from his spare room, for a county council some 100 odd miles away, he used to manage a similar department to the one he is currently working for.

 

His job consists of compiling and posting a set amount of reports in a day, the same as his colleagues in the main office. What happens is the people in his office fuckarse about all day playing, "what's your favourite humming noise" or "what's that smell" or some such shit, anything that prevents them actually doing their jobs seemingly.

 

I asked him recently what happens when he gets through his workload, turns out he then has to catch up everyone else's work for them. Since I pointed out that it wasn't any sort of motivation, he told his boss and has been taking it somewhat easier, not long until he retires now, I know he is counting down the days!

 

Not everyone at the council is fucking useless, but the number is only going up in his department.

[TimothyClaypole]

I really don't know how people toss it off all day at work... it is boring as hell. Knowing you've another X hours of nothing to do. Going day after day to the same shit.

 

I'd rather be busy then hometime rolls up before you know it without clock watching.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

I really don't know how people toss it off all day at work... it is boring as hell. Knowing you've another X hours of nothing to do. Going day after day to the same shit.

 

My mum was in a job like that (Greek public sector). She took up sewing and made enough clothes for herself to fill two wardrobes!

 

There are serious disincentives to 'rocking the boat' in such a situation, as you're risking being made redundant or at least transferred to the arse end of nowhere, and it's also likely to cause colleagues/managers to hate you and make your life difficult.

[warren t claim]

I really don't know how people toss it off all day at work... it is boring as hell. Knowing you've another X hours of nothing to do. Going day after day to the same shit.

 

My mum was in a job like that (Greek public sector). She took up sewing and made enough clothes for herself to fill two wardrobes!

Is that the same Greece that is in serious financial trouble partly caused by public employees cashing pay cheques for doing Jack Shit?

[Cavcraft]

I really don't know how people toss it off all day at work... it is boring as hell. Knowing you've another X hours of nothing to do. Going day after day to the same shit.

 

I'd rather be busy then hometime rolls up before you know it without clock watching.

 

It is mind numbing, I'd rather have a bit to do then a ten minute break every now and then to have a brew or something. Having gone from a job where I never stopped because we were always busy to one that was pretty much quite the reverse, it's took years to adapt.

[dollywobbler]

I've quit quite a few (private sector) jobs because I had sod all to do. One of these jobs was in IT and I was earning £200 a day for doing sod all. That was small fry. We were paying consultants over £1000 a day for doing sod all! I couldn't live with myself so quit and got a job at a smaller company earning £26k a year. That involved doing sod all and drove me up the wall so I quit that as well.

 

Working in the media, there was far, far less of that 'sod all' experience. It was bloody hectic! Probably the busiest I'd ever been in a job. That's satisfying. Sitting around watching the clock tick is not at all satisfying. Yet some people seem very able to do just that.

 

If you're at the bottom of the chain - ie temping in an office or working in a call centre - life is exactly opposite, and every minute of your day (including loo breaks) is planned out for you. Why can't employers get a balance between micro-management and lazy, sod allness?

[Cavcraft]

I wish I could afford (on paper) to take the sort of job I really wanted to do, rather then just something that pays better than some other places. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride and all that, but I'd love to work at the zoo, a scrapyard or a classic car garage.

[cort16]

I'd love to work at the zoo, a scrapyard or a classic car garage.

 

 

I think you've just struck on a great business idea. A classic car scrapyard occupied by a colony of big red arsed Baboons. They'd certainly be good at ripping the windscreen wipers off the cars.

[Richard]

I think you've just struck on a great business idea. A classic car scrapyard occupied by a colony of big red arsed Baboons. They'd certainly be good at ripping the windscreen wipers off the cars.

 

And how exactly does that differ from any other scrapyard?

[Cavcraft]

I'd love to work at the zoo, a scrapyard or a classic car garage.

 

 

I think you've just struck on a great business idea. A classic car scrapyard occupied by a colony of big red arsed Baboons. They'd certainly be good at ripping the windscreen wipers off the cars.

 

Kwikfit beat me to it.

[cort16]

I think you've just struck on a great business idea. A classic car scrapyard occupied by a colony of big red arsed Baboons. They'd certainly be good at ripping the windscreen wipers off the cars.

 

And how exactly does that differ from any other scrapyard?

 

I believe the Baboons have better people skills.