The grumpy thread

[Mr_Bo11ox]

  autofive said:

just been to weigh-in non-ferrous this morning, now (a trial scheme in the north east) no one can weigh-in without a passport or driving license, and they have to show them each time they weigh in.

 

so, i came away empty handed, i have to go back tomorrow with the required I.D. before collecting payment.

 

all the staff are moaning that theres nothing coming in, and job losses are in the wind

 

Job losses in the scrap metal industry, blimey, things are tough!!!!

[Lord Sterling]

What a fucking shit day at work it was yesterday. Started at 5.30pm instead of 6pm, supposed to finish at 2.00am, actually finished at 3am, by the time I'd finished I seriously was physically ready to drop to the floor. This was because the lad who it in charge didnt have a clue how to run the show. As per fucking usual it was me doing all the donkey work lifting some seriously heavy boxes, at speed to stack them neatly in the truck container or pallett whilst also trying to train a new lad up. The line gets seriously fast after the Trucks have gone meaning boxes come flying down the line where I have to stack them on the pallett, all the new lad had to do was remove the finished pallett out of the way so I could put a new one down, wrap up the finished pallett and load it onto another container, but despite me warning him that we'd have to work really fast, he took his time, strolling around the pallet with wrap

 

The other running the show really didnt seem to know what he was doing, but he took it in his stride, whilst everyone else was pretty much taking thier own time and generally getting confused with what they were supposed to be doing, I was doing the hardest and most physical job dealing with the 10/20 boxes flying down the line trying to stack them. It doesnt help that the others who actually know what they are doing are still on holiday/sick

 

I've got 3 more days of this lark to go too, plus I'm running out of money.

[Negative Creep]

  Mr_Bo11ox said:

  autofive said:

just been to weigh-in non-ferrous this morning, now (a trial scheme in the north east) no one can weigh-in without a passport or driving license, and they have to show them each time they weigh in.

 

so, i came away empty handed, i have to go back tomorrow with the required I.D. before collecting payment.

 

all the staff are moaning that theres nothing coming in, and job losses are in the wind

 

Job losses in the scrap metal industry, blimey, things are tough!!!!

 

 

If it cuts down on the spate of metal thefts, then it can only be a good thing

[messerschmitt owner]

aye, scrap metal thefts! Couldn't agree more on a crackdown.

[autofive]

  Negative Creep said:

  Mr_Bo11ox said:

  autofive said:

just been to weigh-in non-ferrous this morning, now (a trial scheme in the north east) no one can weigh-in without a passport or driving license, and they have to show them each time they weigh in.

 

so, i came away empty handed, i have to go back tomorrow with the required I.D. before collecting payment.

 

all the staff are moaning that theres nothing coming in, and job losses are in the wind

 

Job losses in the scrap metal industry, blimey, things are tough!!!!

 

 

If it cuts down on the spate of metal thefts, then it can only be a good thing

 

and the prices of scrap will rise

 

looks like a WIN WIN WIN, unless you cant find yoyur passport or driving license

[dollywobbler]

So, scrap metal value will rise, primarily because far too much stuff that ISN'T scrap is being pikey'd away at the moment. I don't really want higher scrap values but I DO want stuff being stolen for scrap. If higher values are the result then so be it.

[Felly Magic]

Wayhay, common sense in the scrap trade at long last. Doubt it will still stop the pikey bastards though sadly, as they will find some dodgy yard to weigh their ill gotten booty in.

[retrogeezer]

  dollywobbler said:

Given the issues with cars/railway/power station metal being weighed in very merrily, I struggle to sympathise with that one A5. If there's no money for legit scrap metal, then it just proves that the trade has been enjoying the influx of stolen property so again, hard cheese really.

 

 

 

Agreed, as soon as scumbags started nicking lead from the church roof, the war memorial name plates, street light safety panels and even frigging drain covers out of the road this had to happen.

[Negative Creep]

Realistically I'm not sure what they could do to stop cash in hand payments. Whilst I'm not normally in favour of re tape, if ever an industry brought this upon itself it's the scrap metal one

[Pete-M]

  dollywobbler said:

So, scrap metal value will rise, primarily because far too much stuff that ISN'T scrap is being pikey'd away at the moment. I don't really want higher scrap values but I DO want stuff being stolen for scrap. If higher values are the result then so be it.

 

You sure about this?

[TimothyClaypole]

Best I get myself a megaphone and get out on the streets.

 

Passport - Check.

Van - Check.

Waste Carrier Licence - Check.

Driving Licence - errr, in the post.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

I think that higher scrap prices are GR9. First of all it means that the global economy is growing again (because someone must be buying the stuff that's made out of recycled metal) and, from a shite perspective, makes the bottom-end cars less cheap and consequently less likely to get scrapped due to needing a couple of CV joints.

 

 

  chaseracer said:

  Luxobarges_Are_Us said:

  Mr H Sceptre said:

Most Citizen's Advice Bureaus (Bureaux??) have an Employment Law specialist, you could get some free advice and would represent you at any tribunal, again, for nothing.....

 

Yes, but the law makes it all but impossible to get anything out of it unless you had been working somewhere for a year. What's ridiculous is that there are plans afoot to increase that to two years.

True - from April.

 

  Quote

Might as well say "only public sector employees are entitled to protection from unfair dismissal" and be done with it (and no, this is not a rant against the public sector- it's just that job mobility is a lot higher in the private sector).

FFS, would you care to hammer a smaller - yet equally sweepingly ignorant - generalisation over that?! And there's a lot of job mobility OUT of public services right now - all those nurses, teaching assistants, coppers & lollipop ladies who caused the collapse of the economy are finally getting what they deserve...

 

Why is that statement "sweepingly ignorant"? The mobility out of the public sector is going to be largely unaffected by the new law, because those people have been there for longer. Employee turnover is much lower in the public sector, both because of the type of jobs and because of the types of people working there. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. However, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise that the change in the legislation is going to affect private sector workers a lot more than public sector ones.

[Pete-M]

If your job goes tits up and you can't afford to live, you've been spending more than you can afford. Simple.

[Guest]

I'm getting the feeling I've been left high and dry to sort this project feature out. Not apart from the problems I've already mentioned, no one else from the team has offered to help me put the thing together. The footage was dumped on me and that was it.

 

Cheers other group members, really appreciate all of your help.

[Lankytim]

The only growing ecomony which is keeping scrap metal prices so high is the far east, China and India.

 

I don't think a ban on cash payments in scrap yards will stop metal thefts, as the scrap will simply be sold on via a dodgy third party, someone who can easily lose a few smashed drain covered in a load of cast iron or has a furnace for melting down priceless works of art e.t.c

[Timewaster]

I'm pretty sure there are some big organisations behind metal thefts.

This stuff is into containers and shipped east without going anywhere near the pikey scrap yards, they just couldn't handle the volumes.

[pompei]

I'm really sorry to hear about your predicament, Eddy. It sounds as if you really are in it up to your neck. I am certainly not going to make trite suggestions about how you could possibly improve things but I will say what I am sure plenty people on here are thinking, it's good to have a "virtual" outlet on this place. Most of us on here have had money problems and you have had Mrs R's health worries to contend with too. Try and keep your head up, you are amongst friends

[eddyramrod]

  pompei said:

you are amongst friends

 

Thanks, I appreciate that. It is helpful to have a place where I can just rant. I'm inclined to bottle things up, which I know isn't healthy. Not a big fan of washing my smalls in public....

[messerschmitt owner]

  eddyramrod said:

  pompei said:

you are amongst friends

 

Thanks, I appreciate that. It is helpful to have a place where I can just rant. I'm inclined to bottle things up, which I know isn't healthy. Not a big fan of washing my smalls in public....

we're not 'public', this is autoshite, home of saddos, losers, social inadequates and Tagora lovers!

[eddyramrod]

That'll be why I feel so at-home here then!

[AnthonyG]

  tontops said:

I'm pretty sure there are some big organisations behind metal thefts.

This stuff is into containers and shipped east without going anywhere near the pikey scrap yards, they just couldn't handle the volumes.

 

I agree - war memorials etc are probably being nicked by organised East European gangs.

 

But it will cut down on your basic bottom feeder pikey, who wouldn't know what a shipping container is actually meant for - even if one fell on his head - to that sort its a big rusty shed with no windows useful for storing nicked quadbikes in.

[AnthonyG]

  chaseracer said:

FFS, would you care to hammer a smaller - yet equally sweepingly ignorant - generalisation over that?! And there's a lot of job mobility OUT of public services right now - all those nurses, teaching assistants, coppers & lollipop ladies who caused the collapse of the economy are finally getting what they deserve...

 

Trouble is, it is the low level workers getting shafted rather than the real wasters, like that useless blonde tart who was running Suffolk Council on 250k per annum because 'that's what they pay in the private sector' . The fact that none of these council chief executives could get a job in the bloody private sector doesn't seem to count as a factor.

 

I'm not keen on all of what the coalition are doing, but its bloody good having Labour as far away from the levers of power as possible - and with Wallace's gormless cousin supposedly 'leading' them, that state of affairs will continue for a good long time.

 

Do you think the union movement are starting to regret shafting actual party members and MPs with the block votes to railroad that twat in over his bro?

[eddyramrod]

  AnthonyG said:

Trouble is, it is the low level workers getting shafted rather than the real wasters,

 

That's been the way of the world for centuries, I'm afraid. Especially galling as I know I'll always be "low-level."

 

  AnthonyG said:

its bloody good having Labour as far away from the levers of power as possible

 

+1! Mind, there isn't much to choose between them these days, whatever colour they profess to wear. None of them is interested in anything but lining his own pockets at our expense.

[Felly Magic]

Bang on there Eddy. I popped in to my old work today, and found out one of my former colleagues passed away over Christmas. Poor old Dick. He'd not long retired. Used to work down Felixstowe docks too.

[ashmicro]

2 years of martial law, that's my advice.

[Pete-M]

Got to go on a quick trip to Czech this weekend.

 

 

When there's a hurricane due.

[trigger]

  Felly Magic said:

Poor old Dick. He'd not long retired. Used to work down Felixstowe docks too.

 

Dick who?

[Felly Magic]

I can never remember his surname. We nicknamed him pruneface. He was a shortish chap, gravelly voiced and apparently an ex crane driver down the docks. Will get his surname for ya triggsy.

[trigger]

It doesn't ring any bells, I wondered if it was Dicky Bird but he was a tug driver.

[autofive]

  Pete-M said:

Got to go on a quick trip to Czech this weekend.

 

 

When there's a hurricane due.

 

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