The grumpy thread

[Guest Hooli]

I've had IBS since about 36 years old, it's not fun is it?

 

My dad has it too & amusingly my Dr agreed with my self diagnosis based on the fact my farts started to smell like my dad's.

[Pillock]

 also although the road has a 30mph limit relatively few people fling themselves around that corner at anything less than 40mph.

 

Can't see how, there's a combine harvester coming and they're never gonna hit 40.

[Guest Hooli]

Fucking photofuckingbucket the fucking cockfuckingwombles who run it have lost about 50% of the pics I've ever uploaded. I still have copies here, but it'll take forever to reupload them on my amazing 2.7Mb broadband with it's 1Mb (ish) upload speed.

[robinmasters]

It's an issue of location.

 

Everything to the right of the driveway is obscured by the viaduct making the corner completely blind, considerably worse than streetview makes it look. Any vehicle attempting to leave the driveway has to pull out in to potential traffic they can't see, also although the road has a 30mph limit relatively few people fling themselves around that corner at anything less than 40mph.

 

As a result the RM have been told not to park their van in the drive but to park over the street by the old hotel and cross the road by foot. This leaves you with the exact same problem as before but now the postie is on foot rather than in a car, one nearly got knocked down t'other day so that's the end of that. I'll be moving out before April so it's not a massive hassle!

 

If I was your postie I'd be more worried about running into whoever rolled up that brick wall and slung it in the river.

 

[michael1703]

1 million shit and ugly houses will be built as a result and they will be on poxy bits of land with fuck all garden and nowhere for kids to go and play and be kids and we'll get the statistic of "omg, British kids are fatter and exercise less than their European equivalents" etc.

 

There is one thing that is causing a housing crisis and lots of other problems in the world.

 

 

"There are too many people inhabiting this planet"

 

 

 

Quality of life has improved so much and safety and medical advances mean there are just too many people alive

 

Idiots don't die through stupidity any more, joey essex is a prime example

 

Cancer survival rates are increasingly successful,poverty doesn't exist in the form of 'too poor to have food' poverty still exists in some forms but the awareness of it mean aid and welfare can save lives

 

I've had 3 relatives beg to die, one had a stroke and was paralysed and had to endure 7 years in a nursing home staring at the ceiling, unable to talk or move,one was 93 and had to stop all medication and try and slip away in pain, another was 87 and I wheeled him out for some air and he gave me a look but nothing was said but I could read in his eyes that he wanted me to put a pillow over his face and end it

 

Doctors surgeries and hospitals are full of old people getting meds to keep them alive longer and they don't have any way of pressing the stop button

 

 

Myself and my wife have wanted kids but didn't want them unless we were in a position to have enough money to feed and clothe them properly, having got to that point a few years ago it seems we might have missed the natural body clocks deadline.

 

First time house buyers average age is now 30-35 years old and rising, average deposit is £33k, you can predict a decline in births next, "omg we have less births than Europe" etc but still the population increases

 

Anyway, I'm rambling, I don't like governments blamed for lack of housing, I'd rather a green and pleasant land than lego houses everywhere

[Roverageous]

1 million shit and ugly houses will be built as a result and they will be on poxy bits of land with fuck all garden and nowhere for kids to go and play and be kids and we'll get the statistic of "omg, British kids are fatter and exercise less than their European equivalents" etc.

 

There is one thing that is causing a housing crisis and lots of other problems in the world.

 

 

"There are too many people inhabiting this planet"

 

 

 

Quality of life has improved so much and safety and medical advances mean there are just too many people alive

 

Idiots don't die through stupidity any more, joey essex is a prime example

 

Cancer survival rates are increasingly successful,poverty doesn't exist in the form of 'too poor to have food' poverty still exists in some forms but the awareness of it mean aid and welfare can save lives

 

I've had 3 relatives beg to die, one had a stroke and was paralysed and had to endure 7 years in a nursing home staring at the ceiling, unable to talk or move,one was 93 and had to stop all medication and try and slip away in pain, another was 87 and I wheeled him out for some air and he gave me a look but nothing was said but I could read in his eyes that he wanted me to put a pillow over his face and end it

 

Doctors surgeries and hospitals are full of old people getting meds to keep them alive longer and they don't have any way of pressing the stop button

 

 

Myself and my wife have wanted kids but didn't want them unless we were in a position to have enough money to feed and clothe them properly, having got to that point a few years ago it seems we might have missed the natural body clocks deadline.

 

First time house buyers average age is now 30-35 years old and rising, average deposit is £33k, you can predict a decline in births next, "omg we have less births than Europe" etc but still the population increases

 

Anyway, I'm rambling, I don't like governments blamed for lack of housing, I'd rather a green and pleasant land than lego houses everywhere

 

Agree and disagree.

 

You're quite right about overpopulation. Indeed we had the same with my grandmother - 5 years of not knowing who she was. Her three kids were there when she died and all three could sense the 'satisfaction' from my Grandmother that it had come to a conclusion. I know that sounds absolutely horrible, and the whole family did everything they could t ensure her last years were as comfortable and surrounded by people she recognised as possible - she was an absolutely amazing lady - but none of us can shake the feeling that especially the last few years were just cruel.

 

HOWEVER. I can't oppose new houses being built. As an almost 30 year old with a decent wage yet absolutely no hope of being able to buy my own home something HAS to be done to lower house prices. Whether that's new houses or whether BTL landlords are targeted I don't care. Just do something (that works, preferably!)

[Lacquer Peel]

Social housing or nothing. What's the point of building more houses people can't afford to rent?

Of course the Tories won't build social housing because socialism is anathema to them.

[Roverageous]

Social housing or nothing. What's the point of building more houses people can't afford to rent?

Of course the Tories won't build social housing because socialism is anathema to them.

 

:/

 

I'd rather have the opportunity to buy something I would own! Just at a reasonable cost...

 

Not going to happen though.

[Supernaut]

Regarding the housing stuff, I saw mention on the news yesterday (I was admittedly having my breakfast and heading out at the time) that the government proposes to build houses more quickly than we do now, and they want to relax the building regulations.

 

So yes, we may well end up with a load of shit houses. I found the bit about relaxing building regulations deeply concerning, myself.

[cros]

There are dozens of houses that have been empty for years around me. Quite a few half finished ones too. The thing they have in common is that they're in the wrong place, and recently at the wrong price. My house had been abandoned since the early 60's before I bought it, and the pair of farm cottages nearest me have never been occupied since back then. Want to come and live in the Fens? Didn't think so.

[dollywobbler]

Same here in Wales. For a time, they actually forbade people from renovating rural houses. They didn't want people here. "Bugger off to the towns!" I really do not understand why we still force people into city living. We surely have the technology now that could increase home working, which would decrease traffic congestion and give folk an option other than living in a tiny shoebox on a horrible housing estate with not enough parking that you can never find the sodding way out from.

[Anthony]

There are dozens of houses that have been empty for years around me. Quite a few half finished ones too. The thing they have in common is that they're in the wrong place. My house had been abandoned since the early 60's before I bought it, and the pair of farm cottages nearest me have never been occupied since back then. Want to come and live in the Fens? Didn't think so.

And that there hits the nail on the head - there's plenty of housing in this country, the problem is that it's not where people want to live and/or where there's jobs.

[Roverageous]

And that there hits the nail on the head - there's plenty of housing in this country, the problem is that it's not where people want to live and/or where there's jobs.

I'd love to live in the fens. I'm from Yorkshire but moved because I couldn't get a job with prospects. I hate living where I do (Aylesbury) but need must. I'd move somewhere more rural without any thought at all - but there tends to be no employment.

 

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[Negative Creep]

I'd love to live in the fens. I'm from Yorkshire but moved because I couldn't get a job with prospects. I hate living where I do (Aylesbury) but need must. I'd move somewhere more rural without any thought at all - but there tends to be no employment.

 

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Part of me has always liked the idea of living somewhere more remote like that, but as you say finding a job there would be the big issues. And the lack of fast internet.

[dave21478]

....And the lack of fast internet.

 

Bingo.

 

Rural living is grand if you are of the right mindset for it, but the internet infrastructure is a fucking joke, and a bad joke at that.

Its not a luxury or a toy any more, internet is pretty much indespensable for modern life and a 100% necessity for getting people to move out of cities and work from home where possible.

It gives me the shits to read about people in bumfuck nowhere towns in Eastern Block countries that still get 20+mb speeds for a fraction of what I pay for under 1mb.

[cros]

I'd love to live in the fens. I'm from Yorkshire but moved because I couldn't get a job with prospects. I hate living where I do (Aylesbury) but need must. I'd move somewhere more rural without any thought at all - but there tends to be no employment.

 

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Not wishing to be argumentative, there is employment around here, 1000's of East Europeans can't be wrong. Unfortunately that work is vegetable picking or similar and they say on TV that us indigenous folk lack the necessary skills. Again, I'd disagree with this because I found it piss easy to do manual work for fuck all, earning a reasonable living is the tricky bit.

[Bren]

Ordered a repeat prescription of steroids as the cold weather means I am blowing out of my arse.

 

However I cannot have any until I have an appointment with doctor as I have been taking too many.

 

I am not taking them because I like the taste - I take them because inhalers do not work and I can breathe. Bollocks to the side effects - I will probably be dead before I have side effects.

[Longblackcoat]

Bingo.

 

Rural living is grand if you are of the right mindset for it, but the internet infrastructure is a fucking joke, and a bad joke at that.

Its not a luxury or a toy any more, internet is pretty much indespensable for modern life and a 100% necessity for getting people to move out of cities and work from home where possible.

It gives me the shits to read about people in bumfuck nowhere towns in Eastern Block countries that still get 20+mb speeds for a fraction of what I pay for under 1mb.

 

Hilariously, I get better mobile phone reception (by a factor of approximately shedloads) up a mountain in the French Alps than I do here in Hertfordshire. And I can watch BBC iPlayer a good deal easier with the internet in the chalet, despite the fact the BT tell me that I get 70mb speeds. Well, up to 70mb; it's often under 10. In France it's a 20mb line and it always delivers that. 

 

(Mind you, trying to get a phone line from Orange Telecom in the first place makes solving world debt and AIDS in Africa seem like a walk in the park by comparison.)

[cros]

Bingo.

 

Rural living is grand if you are of the right mindset for it, but the internet infrastructure is a fucking joke, and a bad joke at that.

Its not a luxury or a toy any more, internet is pretty much indespensable for modern life and a 100% necessity for getting people to move out of cities and work from home where possible.

It gives me the shits to read about people in bumfuck nowhere towns in Eastern Block countries that still get 20+mb speeds for a fraction of what I pay for under 1mb.

Funny you should mention that, I'm only on the Shite right now because the computer has ground to a halt with something I had to apply for online. Internet here works at dial-up speeds with no prospect of improvement. The government are talking about quarterly on line tax returns, I wish the wankers would spend the day with me doing the yearly one when it drops out at regular intervals which means that you have to re-log on and get a newly texted code each time.

[alcyonecorporation]

I'd love to live in the fens. I'm from Yorkshire but moved because I couldn't get a job with prospects. I hate living where I do (Aylesbury) but need must. I'd move somewhere more rural without any thought at all - but there tends to be no employment.

 

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You don't want to live in the Fens. Trust me on that. 

[Lacquer Peel]

Invest in rural areas, improve the infrastructure, spread the wealth and create employment.

The Tories aren't going to do that either.

[cort1977]

The trends on population are interesting. Most of Europe has a birth rate far below replacement rate I.e. 2.2 children per woman. One of the reasons that merkel has been so relaxed about migration is that Germany faces a severe demographic problem, without migrants there just will not be enough workers to keep the place going.

 

It's a well documented trend that as countries get wealthier people have less children. Globally population is predicted to reach around 9 billion before gradually falling.

 

So yeah, we need more houses.

[Supernaut]

Bingo.

 

Rural living is grand if you are of the right mindset for it, but the internet infrastructure is a fucking joke, and a bad joke at that.

Its not a luxury or a toy any more, internet is pretty much indespensable for modern life and a 100% necessity for getting people to move out of cities and work from home where possible.

It gives me the shits to read about people in bumfuck nowhere towns in Eastern Block countries that still get 20+mb speeds for a fraction of what I pay for under 1mb.

 

Heh, go to Switzerland.

 

I stayed in a chalet in Wengen for a week in May 2016. The only way wheeled vehicles can get there is on the funicular railway, yet the chalet had faster internet than I get in Aberdeen.

[dave21478]

The thing is - I get it. I am not retarded. I understand that the infrastructure is fundamentally fucked and its not going to get better. I accept (very grudginly, but yeah, I accept) that its not going to get better....they are not going to lay fibre all the way up this fucking mountain...christ they arent even going to repair the busted junction box at the edge of the village that has everyones wiring and a handfull of scotchlocked connectors hanging open and getting soaked every time it rains...but why should I pay the price I do? I would happily pay a pro-rata price for the service I do get, but no....I have to pay the same every month as the folk in city centres who do get fibre. That is the very definition of pissing on me after I have already fallen in the puddle.

[Stroller133]

:/

 

I'd rather have the opportunity to buy something I would own! Just at a reasonable cost...

 

Not going to happen though.

I'd quite a Jaguar XF as runaround. But I can't afford it! Can the govt tell JLR to build me one at a price I can afford?

You are basically saying that you need Govt intervention to enable you to have somewhere decent and affordable to live - I agree this is required and govt policy should help. It's not really possible for the govt to arrange for you to buy a £200k house for £100k - firstly I didn't get a discount on my house and neither did the millions of others that are currently purchasing with a mortgage or own their home outright. Remember millions who own their own homes are pensioners who the Tories have chucked money at whilst decimating everyone else, so they won't want to upset them. So chucking million (s) of artificially cheap houses on the market will either be unfair or worse could cause the whole market to fall (actually over long term the best thing) this will upset the middle aged middle class well off, as their net worth will diminish and will put millions of younger families at risk of negative equity.

So my view is probably a hybrid of capitalism and socialism, but if you can't afford the market price of the house you want, you can't expect a "special" discount so you can afford it. However society should provide reasonably priced social housing, over the long term I would expect house prices to steady as if there was plenty of affordable rental property less people would buy their own home and hence reduce demand.

[Roverageous]

I'm going to bow out of this one.

 

Its all getting a bit 'pistonheads' here. My point was that despite earning a good salary I'm unable to purchase even a flat, let alone a house.

 

The average house price is over 10x the average salary in Buckinghamshire. That's not sustainable. And seeing as you've mentioned it - many many many people have been able to purchase houses in the past on a much smaller salary!

 

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[chaseracer]

Invest in rural areas, improve the infrastructure, spread the wealth and create employment.

The Tories aren't going to do that either.

 

THAT'S BLOODY SOCIALISM!! (insert multiple irony asterixes here...)

[scaryoldcortina]

Both my children are in their 20s, and still live at home because neither of them have any reasonable prospect of finding anywhere to move to.

 

My daughter is 27 and has no children and a BSc but can't find a job that isn't minimum wage and short hours so can't afford to rent in the local market let alone buy. Every job she applies for that she's qualified to do want her to have experience she hasn't got because no-one will employ her, and every lower position she applies for to gain experience she's overqualified to do.

 

My son is 21 and has Asperger's syndrome so also has no job but does have significant care needs that wouldn't be met due to all the cuts if he moved out, assuming there was anywhere he could move to (there isn't)

 

Broken system? Yeah.

 

Don't worry too much about the latest tory "pledge" though, they've promised* to fix the housing market at least a thousand times in the last 7 years.

[Supernaut]

The thing is - I get it. I am not retarded. I understand that the infrastructure is fundamentally fucked and its not going to get better. I accept (very grudginly, but yeah, I accept) that its not going to get better....they are not going to lay fibre all the way up this fucking mountain...christ they arent even going to repair the busted junction box at the edge of the village that has everyones wiring and a handfull of scotchlocked connectors hanging open and getting soaked every time it rains...but why should I pay the price I do? I would happily pay a pro-rata price for the service I do get, but no....I have to pay the same every month as the folk in city centres who do get fibre. That is the very definition of pissing on me after I have already fallen in the puddle.

 

I hear you. I can't get fibre (even though my sister, about 300 yards away, does) yet when I look at the price of fibre, it's only a few quid a month more than my ADSL connection. Boo.

 

 

 

With regards to the whole affordable housing thing, the only way I can actually afford to rent in Aberdeen (and play with shite cars too) is the fact that I'm 'renting' from my parents. I pay below market rent for a room in Aberdeen as my share of a mortgage on a house we bought in 2005. It's currently got me and my 2 older brothers in it, but me and all 3 of my siblings have lived in here at some point (not all at the same time) with tenants in the other rooms. We can rent out one room for twice what we each pay towards the mortgage and tenants say it's still cheap! Mental. I know I'm very fortunate to be in this position, and the parents have already said that the house is our inheritance, which seems fair.

[Anthony]

It's perhaps worth remembering that it was during Labour's 13 years of power that house prices boomed to unsustainable levels in the first place...

 

 

One of the biggest issues is that so much property has been bought not as somewhere to live, but as an investment - buy to lets and similar. You can't help but think that much of the promised new builds will go the same way despite the recent tax increase, especially with conventional investments offering next to no return.

 

Certainly of the houses on my street, I can only think of one that has been bought by someone to live in themselves - all the others have been bought and immediately rented out.