The grumpy thread

[xtriple]

My hated new laptop 'may'  be dead... I poured coffee in it by accident and it has all gone a little 'strange'. Taken it to see my mate the computer whizz, who says it will be fine.... not sure I want it to be!

[Negative Creep]

Neighbours who climb into your garden to get their ball back instead of knocking and asking

[dugong]

Update #2: "I haven't overcharged you, eBay took the difference in handling fees [even though I didn't send it through eBay]. Ask them how much they charged me."

 

How about you prove it with screen caps instead?

 

The normal bullshit with eBay again. "Send them back for a full refund [or fuck all else]."

 

How about no? 

 

Oh no, sorry - matey reckons the difference is in final value fees. 

 

I ain't seeing much proof.

 

And you're adding these to your postal costs - why? 

 

Am I likely to get the difference out of this tit or should I just neg him and move on? 

[Captain Furious]

How much were the original postage fees if the actual postage worked out £50 less!

[Kiltox]

Found a fuel sender unit for the Colt but it's £80

[dugong]

How much were the original postage fees if the actual postage worked out £50 less!

 

Postage as stated on the docket was 9000 yen (xe.com reckons this is £70.75 or thereabouts)

 

He took $145 off me (or £118.88) for shipping.

 

I reckon he guesstimated and gave me a random figure to make sure it was covered. 

 

So far he's claimed:

 

1. Ebay's shipping service took the difference off him (don't care, that isn't my problem, he didn't state this as a term of sale)

2. Ebay's handling fees took the difference off him (don't care, that isn't my problem, he didn't state this as a term of sale) 

3. Ebay's final value fees took the difference off him (why are you passing them on to the customer?!) 

 

Also, he stated that I paid $125 for the mats on a BIN (I didn't, I paid $90) and that I should be the one ringing up eBay to confirm how much he hasn't overcharged me by. Why? 

 

Shouldn't he be able to prove all this with screen caps? So far he's refused. 

 

I have all the documentation and can easily provide:

 

1. The final sale amount

2. The price he paid to ship the mats (plus another form with his signature on it)

3. Screencaps from Paypal showing the amount I paid him to post the mats ($145)

 

He either thinks I'm exceptionally stupid, or bubble wrap and tape is horrifically dear in the land of the Rising Sun. 

At the very least he's getting one star DSRs unless he gets this resolved. 

[steveo3002]

dont you agree to pay whatevr it says

 

so i if sell spark plugs £1 + £10 p&p thats up to you to accept or go elsewhere?   

 

decent sellers would refund an overcharge but i dont think you can do anything other than shite feedback

[dugong]

dont you agree to pay whatevr it says

 

so i if sell spark plugs £1 + £10 p&p thats up to you to accept or go elsewhere?   

 

decent sellers would refund an overcharge but i dont think you can do anything other than shite feedback

 

If the postage declaration had matched what he'd charged me on eBay, yes, I would have agreed. 

 

Do you not think a near £50 difference is a bit fishy? 

 

He's hiding behind the 'send it back or fuck off' terms of eBay's return policy. 

[RoadworkUK]

I wonder if any Japanese eBay sellers have ever received an Argos catalogue through the post? That would baffle him.

[dugong]

I wonder if any Japanese eBay sellers have ever received an Argos catalogue through the post? That would baffle him.

 

 

This guy lives in Japan but his details say he's based in the UAE (or that's where his account was registered). 

[Timewaster]

Big neg and move on with your life.

 

What is international postage on an Argos catalogue?

[steveo3002]

If the postage declaration had matched what he'd charged me on eBay, yes, I would have agreed. 

 

Do you not think a near £50 difference is a bit fishy? 

 

He's hiding behind the 'send it back or fuck off' terms of eBay's return policy. 

yeah it stinks ....but its up to you to argue before buying or go with another honest seller

 

dont think you will get anywhere  

[doobietoo]

dugong, on 24 Oct 2016 - 6:12 PM, said:

This guy lives in Japan but his details say he's based in the UAE (or that's where his account was registered). 

 

 

Send him a couple of packs of codeine....

[Supernaut]

Builders due to start work today. You can guess the rest. *Sigh*

 

They probably feel the same way!

 

At least they aren't electricians though, eh?

[Captain Furious]

£120 postage?! Was he flying them here on a solid gold Concorde?

 

Is it one of those sales where the majority of the item cost is added to postage, which they used to do to try and get around fees but I don't think works anymore because eBay charge you fees on it anyway...

[Captain Furious]

I mean, not that I'd ever condone such behaviour, but when they arrive you could sign for them as 'Guy Incognito’ and then claim that they never arrived and there is nobody of that name at this address/in this street, then file a claim for non-delivered items

 

But that would be outrageous behaviour

[dugong]

£120 postage?! Was he flying them here on a solid gold Concorde?

 

Is it one of those sales where the majority of the item cost is added to postage, which they used to do to try and get around fees but I don't think works anymore because eBay charge you fees on it anyway...

He's added seller fees and handling charges on to the cost of postage, or at least that's what I can discern.

 

Gonna argue the toss with eBay but I doubt I'll get anything out of the robbing little shit.

[dugong]

 

9000 yen paid to post.

 

 

$145 billed for shipping.

 

 

I am in awe of my £47 packaging.

[Captain Furious]

Think you'll probably be onto a loser unfortunately, will no doubt go under the umbrella of 'handling charges'

 

Which like 'admin charges' are basically a licence to charge whatever you like for doing fuck all.

[sporty-shite]

Just contacted breakers for a price on it so little point of a thread.

Nobody's fault, it just didn't want to live.

Eh? Can I have details?

[Cavcraft]

Several questions (most of which were answered in the advert anyhow), a load of pictures sent, then an offer of less than half my asking price.

[RoadworkUK]

I had to pay a "handling charge" when I changed the insurance on the Rover. It still wallows in corners like a bastard, though.

[Kiltox]

Several questions (most of which were answered in the advert anyhow), a load of pictures sent, then an offer of less than half my asking price.

£5 note with serial number CN77 and broken Xbox 2nyt bruv?

[dugong]

The postage charge was clearly stated up front. When you bought the item you agreed to the charge.

 

Too late to whinge now.

 

Not sure why you are bothering to advertise your gullibility on here!

 

Ben

Ebay have refunded me the full amount! Got on the phone and they accepted my documentation.

 

Seller shouldn't have dipped me then, should he? Had he actually paid $145, I'd have accepted it (because I did accept it, well observed, I wanted the items and was prepared to pay for them).

But (and here's the really crucial part) he didn't pay [the equivalent of] £118! He paid £71.80! He tried to scalp me and couldn't provide a single fucking shred of evidence explaining why.

 

Had he fessed up and refunded the difference, it would have been fine. I'd have accepted £15-20 for (decent) packing materials, because I'm reasonable. But not £47 different; would you, o sage? Really? If a package arrived and there was £47 between what you paid and what was declared, you'd take that? Gullible? You would be, yeah.

 

He can have back what I paid for the mats and what he *snigger* actually paid to post my item! I'll even give him £10 for the bubble wrap and tape, you know, because I'm not a swindling arsehole.

 

Struggling to see what's 'gullible' about that to be honest, HarBen.

 

Jon

[Pillock]

Sounds fair, I think if you were being a bastard you could pocket the lot (what can he do from that distance, realistically?) but that reads like you're paying him the purchase price plus 9000 yen, right? Then you're spot on, can't fault you, and he can only grumble that he's not got away with his little wheeze.

[dugong]

Sounds fair, I think if you were being a bastard you could pocket the lot (what can he do from that distance, realistically?) but that reads like you're paying him the purchase price plus 9000 yen, right? Then you're spot on, can't fault you, and he can only grumble that he's not got away with his little wheeze.

Depends.

 

If he refunds me the money of his own volition and apologises, he can have the money back minus the difference in postage costs.

I do so hope pound sterling rises against the dollar in the next week.

 

If he refuses and claims he's been done, I might just keep all of it; eBay decided in my favour.

I can be reasonable if treated with respect. The fact he's taken a flying dump over this little arrangement so far means he's got a long way to go.

His choice. The money's been frozen. He can have what he's actually owed or he can have none of it for the sake of trying it on.

 

I genuinely think he guesstimated the amount and then hoped I wouldn't notice.

 

If I keep all the money on principle the system gets abused and I'm no better than he is - and the world's full of bitter little shits desperate for one upmanship.

 

Neutral feedback y0. I shouldn't have had to go through eBay to sort this.

[dugong]

Right, so I'm supposed to know the specific weight of floor mats by looking at a photograph? I trusted the seller not to royally take the piss with the postage costs.

 

He royally took the piss with the postage costs.

 

The seller guessed how much they were to post and didn't bother to offer me the difference back. I've overcharged people in the past and refunded them the difference - mostly because I'm human and humans get it wrong. Had he admitted this and refunded me the difference, I'd have accepted his apology and moved on.

 

The seller broke the contract by overcharging me and making me (in effect) pay for his listing fees, something he openly admitted. He needs to read eBay's terms and conditions, not me.

 

Whinger here is prepared to pay what it actually cost (ROFL) to send plus a bit of P&P, because.......well, why the fuck not?

I think my offer of paying him what it actually stood him to post and the actual value agreed for the item is more than fair.

 

I might not refund him anything if his attitude's the same as yours.

 

We're not going to agree on this, so let's just sack it off before the self righteousness descends.

[Sheefag]

So BenHar, the Japanese bloke's getting fuck all now and it's all your fault.

 

The morality bus seems to have juddered to a halt all of a sudden.

[Bobthebeard]

Right, so I'm supposed to know the specific weight of floor mats by looking at a photograph?

 

The seller guessed how much they were to post and didn't bother to offer me the difference back. I've overcharged people in the past and refunded them the difference.

The seller broke his end of the contract by overcharging me and making me pay for his listing fees.

 

How's that fair?

 

Hilariously, I'm prepared to pay what it actually cost (ROFL) to send. If that makes me a whinger, er......righto.

I didn't realise I was in the presence of the perfect citizen, yo.

 

I might not refund him anything if his attitude's the same as yours.

 

Prick? Well, he started it.....

Ebay.....

[Louise2cv]

They probably feel the same way!

 

At least they aren't electricians though, eh?

I don't get it?

 

It's annoying to wait around for someone and have them not show up isn't it? To most people? I'd have thought?

 

When I was working we'd get a bollocking and lose points towards that months bonus if we missed a 4hr window. Including if we went to an "afternoon" job at 5 to 12. Maybe it's skewed my expectations but Monday isn't Tuesday in my book.

 

I'm happy to accept a job has over run but might they have most likely envisaged that this one might need to start late on Friday? I dunno.

 

Communication often solves grumps.

 

 

ETA: I'm still optimistic about this firm and about the job: so far they have been helpful and very organised/professional about the planning. This was just a minor blip. It was just irritating because I hadn't been organised and got up super early to finish emptying and cleaning they rooms the are going to be working on and ran round checking the yard for dog mess, moving bins and trying to do all the jobs that might have meant me getting in their way, before 8o'clock. I guess I'm just not a morning person!