The grumpy thread

[Mr Lobster]

Sorry to hear that, Billy. Thoughts with you and your family.

[Cavcraft]

Thank you. We knew it was coming (hospice) but it didn't make it easier. It's daft really, you hear some encouraging signs yet you know the end is coming, a sort of self denial phase thing maybe, I don't know.

[overrun]

Cars for sale that have had a replacement engine or gearbox - these items have always.....ALWAYS...done "only 130000 km". Same with people selling just engines or gearboxes, they all..... without exception..... have done under 150k. 

You know.....a cynical person might, just might, be a little dubious of these claims.

 

I bought a 52K mile 2010 Corsa 1.0 thing with a kippered timing chain and bendy bits inside, so instead of arsing on fixing it, U Pull it supplied me a 20K mile engine and box from a 2014 car.

This would normally be a good thing when I sell the car on, but matey wouldn't give me a receipt, stating as much.

 

So say nowt it shall be.

[M'coli]

Same age as me.  I'm so sorry Billy.

[Ghosty]

What happened with Hirst? I'd noticed his posts had gone. Presumably, I missed a shitstorm?

 

I'll miss his contribution, even if no one else does!!

 

All that I've seen is what's in the posting info thread. 

From what I understand someone pissed Hirst off and he pm'd Daveb47 asking if he'd ban them. Dave refused, Hirst then asked him to delete his own account and everything he'd posted, Dave again refused due to potential issues with the forum software.

Hirst edited every single one of his posts to be blank and deleted his account, so an irritated Dave temporarily restricted edit priveliges for the whole site (since been undone). 

 

I haven't noticed Hirst post outside the open forum for a long time. 

 

 

 

Somewhere in all this and the board migration, the delete button disappeared. 

 

 

Meanwhile, I'm sitting in my bedroom, and it's rather warm. If I open the window, all I can hear is shit pop music in perfect clarity at least a quarter of a mile away, and a fuckton of car horns. I'm stuck with constant bass thumping now. Could hear a live band before, no idea if it's a pikey funfair or a wedding party or what.

 

I want to go to bed, I'm off to Chumley tomorrow.

[M'coli]

As ever, misinformation wins out.

[overrun]

All that I've seen is what's in the posting info thread.

From what I understand someone pissed Hirst off and he pm'd Daveb47 asking if he'd ban them. Dave refused, Hirst then asked him to delete his own account and everything he'd posted, Dave again refused due to potential issues with the forum software.

Hirst edited every single one of his posts to be blank and deleted his account, so an irritated Dave temporarily restricted edit priveliges for the whole site (since been undone).

 

I haven't noticed Hirst post outside the open forum for a long time.

 

 

 

Somewhere in all this and the board migration, the delete button disappeared.

 

 

Meanwhile, I'm sitting in my bedroom, and it's rather warm. If I open the window, all I can hear is shit pop music in perfect clarity at least a quarter of a mile away, and a fuckton of car horns. I'm stuck with constant bass thumping now. Could hear a live band before, no idea if it's a pikey funfair or a wedding party or what.

 

I want to go to bed, I'm off to Chumley tomorrow.

Why do people cry and delete posts/ask to be removed/have posters banned from forums when they throw their toys out of the pram?

 

Attention seeking bairns.

 

If I took issue I would tell whoever to fuck off.

Failing that, I suppose I would stop coming on the forum.

Never would I go on like that.

 

I honestly think I am the only one who couldn't give a fuck.

[M'coli]

DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

[Doctormop]

Terrible news Cav, there really are no words,

It might seem insensitive posting this but another truly great young lady lost her battle a couple of days ago,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-37260055

 

The programme 'Before I kick the bucket' was one that made me cry openly for the first time in years.

[trigger]

Theres more to this than whats been posted. Hirst had good reasons.

[overrun]

Theres more to this than whats been posted. Hirst had good reasons.

 

Obviously I don't know them, but I also can't ever see there being a need to wipe yourself from a forum.

 

Don't like it? Don't use it.

[overrun]

DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

 

Me? 

[BavarianRetro]

I don't know the circumstances. Hirst was always entertaining and gave the impression of being a bright, if a little eccentric, bloke. I think he's missed.

 

Don't criticise unless you know the facts.

 

There can be circumstances when it's better if you never existed.

 

On another car forum there was a really good, popular, likeable member - I met him a couple of times. Like everybody he had posted his opinions on day to day matters on their version of the open forum. He was - still is - an extremely talented man in a very small field of people doing his line of work. He worked with expensive, luxury products and at that time he was the second man in the UK team for one of the leading manufacturers. The leading, globally recognised, manufacturer approached him to run their UK side and at that point, he decided his forum user name - his not indistinctive car's not indistinctive registration number - was a potential liability.

[Cavcraft]

Why do people cry and delete posts/ask to be removed/have posters banned from forums when they throw their toys out of the pram?

 

Attention seeking bairns.

 

If I took issue I would tell whoever to fuck off.

Failing that, I suppose I would stop coming on the forum.

Never would I go on like that.

 

I honestly think I am the only one who couldn't give a fuck.

 

Ordinarily I'd agree with that, but Hirst was actually dignified enough to have not done this in public, so to speak, instead he did it behind the scenes. He had good reason to go as Trigger said, and it's a loss to this place that he has.

 

What I will say is we have had a handful of 'delete my account' requests, and whilst I don't think we can, even if we could I wouldn't to be frank. That's not a chip at Hirst, nor anyone else come to think of it, in fact I think he's done the right thing by removing his posts as he clearly felt pissed off enough to leave, which is his call.

[Royale80]

Went to the pub yesterday afternoon-called in to the local kebab shop to take home tea for me and the family. Go there every 5 or 6 weeks. Takes this long to fancy another. Usual servers behind the counter-asked for one large kebab and one chips. Waited 10 mins they then give me only one tray-I say "where are the chips" they reply "in with the kebab" I tell them I've never had this (less food in one tray-being a greedy person) - always separate-they then tell me I should have told them at the start. So I tell them to "stuff it" (I hadn't paid by then and was very polite for me!) but then had to walk an extra 300 yards to the next kebab shop. Still burned a few more calories off walking!

 

Steve

[Ghosty]

Seems there's a lot to this. Don't shoot the messenger etc.

[nigel bickle]

Billy, mate - I'm so sorry for your loss. 44 is no age. Hope you, and the family, can cope.

 

Hirst gone? I'm not suprised, but will miss him. I liked his directness, cynicism- often well judged, and the way he stayed the course. Perhaps he'll be back, one day.

 

I've stacks going on, but learnt that publicity here bites- having gained myself a pair of stalkers. I rarely post anything now- it's just not worth it.

[M'coli]

Me? 

No, not you. There's also a difference between dummy-spitting and persecution, and the only advice I'd offer is that if it occurs to anyone else, keep records of PMs, quote original posts so the content is preserved even after a troll has edited their original dig to something more benign, and be dignified about it. Hirst tried his best to deal with it (he's not the only forum member trolled by the same person), but I also believe that his account wasn't deleted on his asking.

This is why I said not to feed the troll - if they're reading these posts they're likely to be getting their ego boosted by thinking, "I did that", probably fueling any sociopathic tendencies further.

[purplebargeken]

Trolls are curious creatures. Often rather sad and inadequate things.

 

You have to pity then for their sad little lives.

 

Nah, fuck 'em.

 

Stalkers. Well, that's a whole different ball game. Nasty stuff

[Cavcraft]

Time to make the main forum unvisible to the human eye to try and stop trolling? Or would we lose potential newcomers?

[purplebargeken]

Tough call, not sure I have any kind of answer to the problem. If people are determined enough to troll then what can we do. 

[cort16]

when hirst made content it was great but a lot of the time when he posted it was to moan about the board and the content on it, which got a bit wearing tbh.

I think he would have preferred it to be a closed board .

[Richard]

Closed boards tend to wither and die.

[M'coli]

Yup.  It's one of the reasons I believe the Hillman Avenger and Talbot Sunbeam are doomed as cars, because the ASOC have a closed board - you have to joing the club to see it, including the for sale threads.  This limits the audience for cars that appear for sale to those already in the club, and most of them have at least one Avenger or Sunbeam and don't have space for another - I was asked to look at one and advertise it through the club, but no-one had no space for another car.

This is a shame, because the Avenger is a rather fine car.

[Pillock]

Can't stand closed forums. Sometimes when I'm browsing for info, perhaps even because I want to buy a car or maybe just because I'm interested, I come across a massive banner that says "You need to subscribe to see this". Now I know it's free, but I already get billions of emails from every forum ever joined so this is just a barrier which says "We don't like your sort round here". Why on earth should it be subscribe to view? What do they get apart from my email address? Oh I see, they get my email address which is then sold on.

 

It's for that reason that I use 10minutemail for any forums where I subscribe to browse, and hopefully their reply bounces will make them think twice.

 

Right, today's grump. Collecting #1 child from her job (I number them by date of appearance, not through favouritism BTW) in a little village, parked up ten minutes early and it seems there's a cycle race going though. I know this because as I pulled into the high street and then left into a car park (indicating both times, correct road position etc) there's a lycra clad moron screams up behind me from another turning (I had right of way) and starts yelling to get out of his way. This is a tiny little market village, you don't want to be doing more than about 10mph, yet he's clearly on a fucking time trial and popping veins all over his head. 

 

I'm then parked up, and it seems the Police have been called for seems to be a bike vs car (I turned the radio off and dropped the window, I'm nosey like that). Guy getting breathalysed, shopkeepers coming out to weigh in their tuppence. All I keep hearing is how the cyclist was on the time trial and went straight through a junction without looking, and poor old car driver gets his morning ruined. Worth pointing out the cyclist is up on his feet and fiddling with his bike, he's not been injured or owt. 

 

Meanwhile, I'm sat watching endless cyclists completely ignore the rules of the road, near misses with pedestrians, not stopping at junctions, zipping up the inside of cars at junctions, no fucking hand signals and I'm feeling really sorry for the driver that got one sprawled across his bonnet. 

 

I'm right in thinking if I organised a motorbike race through some local villages, I'd be branded a monster - right?

[daveb47]

Have to admitv that i am mightily sick of the whole thing,spent quite a few hours osrting mess out,dont know if i can fix search without recovering  all edited posts & removing them correctly.

I am checking old databases to  see if we have ever had delete enabled but i know we havnt.

Getting quite sick of the constant expense and worry of it all to be honest.

[burraston2006]

Starting to look for a caravan for next summer. I think that as it's the end of season they should start coming down in price. Looking on evil bay and bum tree. Someone recommended preloved. My grump is why is preloved so fxxking awkard/dificult to used. The filters that I want are not there. Is it just me or am I being stupid? Does any one have any tips on where else to look for a cheapish large caravan?

[Tamworthbay]

Have to admitv that i am mightily sick of the whole thing,spent quite a few hours osrting mess out,dont know if i can fix search without recovering  all edited posts & removing them correctly.

I am checking old databases to  see if we have ever had delete enabled but i know we havnt.

Getting quite sick of the constant expense and worry of it all to be honest.

Is there anything anyone else could do to help?

[M'coli]

Can't stand closed forums. Sometimes when I'm browsing for info, perhaps even because I want to buy a car or maybe just because I'm interested, I come across a massive banner that says "You need to subscribe to see this". Now I know it's free, but I already get billions of emails from every forum ever joined so this is just a barrier which says "We don't like your sort round here". Why on earth should it be subscribe to view? What do they get apart from my email address? Oh I see, they get my email address which is then sold on.

 

It's for that reason that I use 10minutemail for any forums where I subscribe to browse, and hopefully their reply bounces will make them think twice.

 

Right, today's grump. Collecting #1 child from her job (I number them by date of appearance, not through favouritism BTW) in a little village, parked up ten minutes early and it seems there's a cycle race going though. I know this because as I pulled into the high street and then left into a car park (indicating both times, correct road position etc) there's a lycra clad moron screams up behind me from another turning (I had right of way) and starts yelling to get out of his way. This is a tiny little market village, you don't want to be doing more than about 10mph, yet he's clearly on a fucking time trial and popping veins all over his head. 

 

I'm then parked up, and it seems the Police have been called for seems to be a bike vs car (I turned the radio off and dropped the window, I'm nosey like that). Guy getting breathalysed, shopkeepers coming out to weigh in their tuppence. All I keep hearing is how the cyclist was on the time trial and went straight through a junction without looking, and poor old car driver gets his morning ruined. Worth pointing out the cyclist is up on his feet and fiddling with his bike, he's not been injured or owt. 

 

Meanwhile, I'm sat watching endless cyclists completely ignore the rules of the road, near misses with pedestrians, not stopping at junctions, zipping up the inside of cars at junctions, no fucking hand signals and I'm feeling really sorry for the driver that got one sprawled across his bonnet. 

 

I'm right in thinking if I organised a motorbike race through some local villages, I'd be branded a monster - right?

That sounds like a shockingly organised TT to be honest, it should never have those sorts of junctions, competitors are governed by the rules of the road and should adhere to them, and there should be adequate numbers of marshals.  It's been over a decade since I last marshalled or competed in a time trial, but the cyclists are at fault here, I think.

[dave21478]

Can't stand closed forums. Sometimes when I'm browsing for info, perhaps even because I want to buy a car or maybe just because I'm interested, I come across a massive banner that says "You need to subscribe to see this". Now I know it's free, but I already get billions of emails from every forum ever joined so this is just a barrier which says "We don't like your sort round here". Why on earth should it be subscribe to view? What do they get apart from my email address? Oh I see, they get my email address which is then sold on.

 

It's for that reason that I use 10minutemail for any forums where I subscribe to browse, and hopefully their reply bounces will make them think twice.

 

Right, today's grump. Collecting #1 child from her job (I number them by date of appearance, not through favouritism BTW) in a little village, parked up ten minutes early and it seems there's a cycle race going though. I know this because as I pulled into the high street and then left into a car park (indicating both times, correct road position etc) there's a lycra clad moron screams up behind me from another turning (I had right of way) and starts yelling to get out of his way. This is a tiny little market village, you don't want to be doing more than about 10mph, yet he's clearly on a fucking time trial and popping veins all over his head. 

 

I'm then parked up, and it seems the Police have been called for seems to be a bike vs car (I turned the radio off and dropped the window, I'm nosey like that). Guy getting breathalysed, shopkeepers coming out to weigh in their tuppence. All I keep hearing is how the cyclist was on the time trial and went straight through a junction without looking, and poor old car driver gets his morning ruined. Worth pointing out the cyclist is up on his feet and fiddling with his bike, he's not been injured or owt. 

 

Meanwhile, I'm sat watching endless cyclists completely ignore the rules of the road, near misses with pedestrians, not stopping at junctions, zipping up the inside of cars at junctions, no fucking hand signals and I'm feeling really sorry for the driver that got one sprawled across his bonnet. 

 

I'm right in thinking if I organised a motorbike race through some local villages, I'd be branded a monster - right?

 

Its not unusual for bike clubs to have race meets around here throughout the summer and a few days beforehand the organisers will recce the route and usually paint direction arrows on the road at junctions so the cyclists know where they are going. This is normally done with a flourescent aerosol. Fair enough, I suppose, they generally stick to the rules of the road and have marshalls managing traffic at junctions if required etc.

 

But then a few weeks back on the morning of a race some guy was using a brush and a big tin of white dulux to alter the road markings at the junction at the end of my village to give priority to the cyclists over the normal main roads right of way.

One of my neighbours tore the guy a new one, who apparently really didnt see anything wrong with what he was doing.